annoyed woman wont move seats on train

[PrettyPleaseXo]

Currently on the train with my 5 year old. There’s loads of individual seats but none together so I’m stood next to my daughter who’s sat down next to another woman.
AIBU to be a bit annoyed she’s turned her back on my daughter to avoid eye contact and hasn’t moved to another seat so I can sit next to my daughter?

if there were no other seats I’d completely get it but there’s loads of individual ones

Literally nobody has said any of that you twerp.

I wouldn't move for any fucker 😂

Awesome I love a seat on train row. I use three separate types of train here in London every day on my commute. Overground ,tube and dlr. Everyone is massively passive aggressive about seats. Including me. I do definitely take advantage of men especially young men, they mostly have very nice manners, I shove them aside for the spare seat when someone nearby gets up.
Yesterday I gave my seat to a mature woman, my age so she could sit with her husband or fancy man. Was the weekend so I was taking the day off.
I would offer to move for you OP. I would feel all smug and it offsets shoving that nice boy out of my way last week.

It's fantastic that there is a seat for your daughter. At age five she is safer sitting.
Can you not find a seat where you are close by. Watch out for people hopping off at stations - two seats together might appear.

This makes no sense. If there are "loads" of individual seats just pick two that are close together, sit with the 5 year old on your lap (although this might inhibit your ability to be MNing your phone), ask someone sitting near one of the "loads" of individual seats if they'd mind moving...

From her statement that there are loads of seats available it would be a seat very close by. If not then she is even more unreasonable expecting this woman to move a distance.

If there are loads of individual seats left then there must be lots of people who can move?

You have chosen this woman. Try someone else?

It's a nice to do but she's not obligated to and it's nothing to be annoyed about.

It's life - if you can't get seats together and you must sit down, just sit elsewhere nearby, sit your daughter on your lap or sit while she stands.

I don't see any difference ~ OP doesn't know this woman , nor does she know anyone else on the train , so she has hardly 'picked' her .

There was a time when men were expected to move for women.

No more.

Would be great if most train carriages were adult-only and there was one sound proofed one reserved for kids.

Actually I seem to remember there was a news story recently about a European train that had a play carriage for kids that was more like a nursery/school with toys and things. That'd be good too.

I would either have dc on my lap or just seat nearby. I would stand hovering over them. I’ve had to do this on public transport plenty of times. Sometimes people offer to move hit I wouldn’t expect it.

LOL of course YABU! this woman owes you nothing. 😆 (OR your daughter!)

Yeah, she's a weirdo OP. However, count yourself lucky, I was recently on a train sitting next to a woman who was picking the yellowheads from her boyfriends nose and wiping them on the seat. I can never recover from it.

I'd just sit in a free seat close by. The other person may offer to swap once alone with a wriggly, chatty child. If not, just keep an eye out for a pair of seats to free up at some point.

I’ve noticed it’s pretty much always young women who are asked to move, it grates on me tbh as it perpetuates the whole view that women should always be the ones to accommodate others. If there’s a seat near by just sit in that. Otherwise I’d just announce to the carriage and people are more likely to move if they’re not targeted

What? The thread title is about "this woman". The OP talks about how
"I’m stood next to my daughter who’s sat down next to another woman.
AIBU to be a bit annoyed she’s turned her back on my daughter to avoid eye contact and hasn’t moved to another seat so I can sit next to my daughter?"
The next post is about how "She's on her phone now".

It is clearly about a particular woman!

Luckily it sounds as though the OP does have a couple of legs to stand on.🙂

The eighth comment on the first page suggests the OP sit on one of the other empty seats. There are other similar suggestions. I’m sure if there was a seat close enough to OP’s child to allow to to both sit down and properly supervise her child then she would use it. As she isn’t, it must be that the other seat people are suggesting she sit in are not close by.

I do like the word twerp though. Criminally under-used, so fair play on that front.

Brilliant

Yes, you pay for tickets for 5 year olds. What adults are standing?? Did you read the OP?

She could have a legitimate reason to not want to move - e.g. in my early pregnancy, I didn't want to announce it to random strangers, but I'd 1) want a seat and 2) want to sit somewhere that didn't make me nauseous (e.g. not next to a smoker/someone eating snacks/near the toilet).

YABU to single her out, just sit your kid on your lap or select another seat. This woman is clearly not interested in moving.

I had a feeling you would get slated OP. Personally, I think a decent person would offer their seat in situation. Sadly, many people have an everyone for themselves motto. I once had to tell a woman to move as she was sat in one of the folding out seats for prams on a train despite her watching me get on, looking directly at me with a pram and loudly saying 'this is the pram space.' You can't expect others to show kindness or basic consideration these days. If you aren't prepared to ask and she hasn't offered I would just sit wherever and hope someone gets off at another station get seats together.

Maybe she just doesn’t want to? This women gives zero fucks about OP and her child and frankly nor should she!

the OP is being incredibly entitled. No one else cares if you sit next to your kid or not, move on.

I bet if you left your DD and moved to the closest seat asking the woman to keep an eye on her then the woman would move.