annoyed woman wont move seats on train

[PrettyPleaseXo]

Currently on the train with my 5 year old. There’s loads of individual seats but none together so I’m stood next to my daughter who’s sat down next to another woman.
AIBU to be a bit annoyed she’s turned her back on my daughter to avoid eye contact and hasn’t moved to another seat so I can sit next to my daughter?

if there were no other seats I’d completely get it but there’s loads of individual ones

Sit your daughter on your knee and do performance parenting until the woman throws herself out the train window to get away from you.

First come, first served! Why should she move for you? You can stand, so you stand.

You have given no indication that you have a particular need to sit, nor why you can't put your daughter on your lap. So YABU.

Entitled much?

if your 5 year old is happy, then let her sit in her own seat next to the lady. maybe it's you that is the only one who wants to change seats. not the lady. and not your dd

You have NO idea why she might be sat down.

I look the picture of health but I have had a medical condition since I was 12 where blood pools in my legs and the circulation to my brain cuts off so I faint, frequently, and have been advised never to stand for long periods. Sometimes on public transport even getting up to go to the loo is a risk, let alone having to search for another seat and run the risk of someone else getting there first and me collapsing in an embarassing heap.

I've also been called out by an entitled mother as being selfish for not letting her toddler jump ahead of me in a toilet queue one day and was told to just F off to the men's instead. I had to tell that woman that I'd just had a burst ovarian cyst and was at that very moment haemorraghing and would most likely fill the sanitary bin, which they don't have in the men's. A friend had a similar experience as a "radiant" bride on her wedding day when she was actually going through a missed miscarriage and finally passed the foetus on the day of her wedding. So no she couldn't let a mother and her two kids push in front of the toilet queue because she really needed to get in there first and also didn't want everyone to know her already tragic news. So now she has been villified for years by a random in law as a "bridezilla".

So stop your pointless venom for this young woman whose circumstances you don't know and either put your child on your lap, sit nearby or ask if anyone else would be willing to move so you can sit together. Having a child doesn't mean you have any more of a right to sit than she does. Leave the poor woman alone.

And my answer to that would be, maybe for you but not for me so as you are so rude I wont be moving after all.

Try someone else if there are that many free seats. She's not offered so clearly doesn't want to move.

You can ask her to move, but you cannot expect this.

If she says no then get over it. Having a child does not entitle you to adjacent seats on public transport.

Is there no single aisle seat nearby where you can keep an eye on your daughter? I've done that where seating on trains is unreserved. If it were me I'd swap with you but people are a bit weird sometimes

What’s this even about, why this woman and not any of all the other folks in the train?

This.

I agree with you id offer to move. I once had to sit on the floor of a train (no reserved seating) with my son as he was sleeping and has additional needs wouldn't sit beside a stranger as no seats together. Sometimes people don't think

Manners?

The OP has plonked a kid down beside her, decided to stand rather than sit on another vacant seat nearby, and is clearly managing fine considering she's also got her face buried in her phone.

If the OP had any manners they'd go and sit on two fairly close available seats.

I really don't understand why you think you are entitled to this woman's seat just because you have a child with you, and why you have singled her out. If you were carrying a baby and all the other seats were taken, then fair enough, but otherwise no, I wouldn't move for you either.

In any case, as she is sat down she probably doesn't even realise that all the other vacant seats are singles. Just wait for someone to get off the train and move seats when you see two empty seats together.

This. Bloody hell.

Men dragged into the row for no reason whatsoever 😂

I'm guessing your glaring and tutting will 100% ensure she does not move!

Yes, I am always singled out to be asked as a single woman. It happened to me at a play the other week, no-one else was asked to move. And the resulting tension from the asker ruined the beginning of the play, which I had travelled two hours to see, for me.

I can only presume the people saying that OP should leave her FIVE YEAR OLD and sit elsewhere in the carriage have never met a five year old before. What a ridiculous suggestion.

flipping this around and imagining a post from the lady by the window about some woman abandoning her small child next to her to sit somewhere else rather than staying with her - you can just picture the outraged responses from people saying to find the train conductor/ call social services/the police.

Go to another carriage

use your common sense fgs just sit behind her somewhere

Well I would definitely ask but if I were her I would offer to move if there was a similar seat available. I wouldn’t expect a 5 year old to sit out of sight for her mum.

I would and have done.

The other woman was there first, why should she move? OP can just sit elsewhere, it's not like it will be far away from her DD.