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No inheritance because of pilot training

557 replies

Poily · 27/01/2024 12:21

My brother is a pilot for a major airline in the UK. My parents were not able to borrow against their house to fund it so had to use pretty much all their savings. £150k was roughly what was spent.

Due to their failed business (folded just after Covid) they racked up massive loans trying to save their hospitality-related business. When they sell their house they won’t end up with much.

So I don’t know exactly how it works but some of that £150k ends up in a bond which the airline then pays out to my brother every month in his pay packet. But if my brother walks away from the airline he walks away from this bond also. It’s a lot of money. Gets paid over 7 years I think.

AIBU to think my brother should not quit his job and move to the Middle East (stupid salary) as he plans to do? He way paying that bond money to my parents.

Brother has said he will cover my parents bills. Great. Thats the right thing to do. But that cuts me out. As my parents were transferring the bond
money into a savings account for my kids.

AIBU?

OP posts:
StrawberryJellyBelly · 27/01/2024 13:58

Wherearemymarbles · 27/01/2024 13:02

I am a bit confused.
It costs around £100,000 to get an ATPL and around 2 years.
so if your parents loaned him £150,000 then he should not be in hoc to any airline so I dont really understand this bond thing at all as it only applies if the airline paid for his training. Which they didnt….

ergo they need to do some digging….

Im not understanding it either and we put our son through flying school as well. . And he’s not the only pilot in the family who paid their own way training wise and yet I still don’t understand this situation.

Menomeno · 27/01/2024 13:59

Your brother is repaying the money he’s had from them. You are not repaying the money you’ve had from them, you’re keeping it in an account for your children.

Now that your parents are near destitute maybe you should repay them that money, just as your brother is doing, and save money for your children’s futures from your own pocket.

Theatrefan12 · 27/01/2024 13:59

Poily · 27/01/2024 13:45

Parents don’t claim benefits. Parents credit is shot due to CCJs which will be paid off with the sale of the house. Therefore brother is stepping in to help secure rental accommodation.

You really do sound worse in every post. Your parents have hit a financially hard spot in their life and you are bitching that you/your kids won’t get money from them

Most children who saw their parents in that situation would be encouraging them to spend any money they had on themselves to make their existing life easier. Not your life in the future

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 27/01/2024 14:00

sweeneytoddsrazor · 27/01/2024 13:42

Some people need to learn the difference between gift and loan.

Starting with the OP.

Neriah · 27/01/2024 14:00

JemimaFuddle · 27/01/2024 12:29

It's pretty disgusting that you're describing this as your inheritance rather than your parents money.

Yep, this.

You sound really nasty about your parents and your brother.

But "your inheritance" (actually, their money) would have been blown by now anyway, because they lost everything when their business failed. So you are coveting money that you wouldn't have got anyway.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 27/01/2024 14:01

Poily · 27/01/2024 13:45

Parents don’t claim benefits. Parents credit is shot due to CCJs which will be paid off with the sale of the house. Therefore brother is stepping in to help secure rental accommodation.

Why have you been accepting your parents putting so much money away for your children when their financial situation is shot?

betterangels · 27/01/2024 14:04

The entitled attitudes to inheritance on this forum is baffling. No one is entitled to other people's money. Your parents spent their money as they pleased. If your brother is paying them back through paying their bills, that's between them. He can move wherever he wants.

user1984778379202 · 27/01/2024 14:05

Your update makes you sound even more grabby. Your parents have a CCJ against them and need to sell their home and all you're worried about is your inheritance? They must be thankful at least one of their children gives a shit about them losing everything through no fault of their own. Clue: it's not you.

betterangels · 27/01/2024 14:06

Now that your parents are near destitute maybe you should repay them that money, just as your brother is doing, and save money for your children’s futures from your own pocket.

You're making too much sense. Stop it...

NoraBattysCurlers · 27/01/2024 14:08

OP, you are living in cloud-cuckoo land.

According to what you have said above, your parents spent all their savings and will have very little left when they sell their house. As a result of your parents investment in his pilot training, your brother will be in a position to pay their bills and provide them with accommodation.

Had your parents not spent their £150,000 saving on your brother's pilot training, they would now be burning through their savings to pay their rent and their bills. As your parents are likely to live for many years yets, it is likely that they will exhaust all their savings to pay their living expenses before they die.

Your parents won't be able to live on fresh air for the rest of their lives. You cannot inherit when there isn't any thing left to inherit.

Wimpeyspread · 27/01/2024 14:08

This is between your brother and your parents. None of this has anything to do with you. You have no actual right to an inheritance

lapsedrdwhoenthusiast · 27/01/2024 14:10

I can see why you think it's unfair that your parents have given your brother 150k and not given you anything. People have got very focused on you calling it "your inheritance" but I can see why you're annoyed.

Teder · 27/01/2024 14:10

Poily · 27/01/2024 13:45

Parents don’t claim benefits. Parents credit is shot due to CCJs which will be paid off with the sale of the house. Therefore brother is stepping in to help secure rental accommodation.

@Poily

Your parents sound like they are in a terrible financial situation and all you can think about is yourself and future inheritance?!! They’ve had to sell their home and need their son’s help to source a rented place- this all sounds very sad for them.

sumptuous · 27/01/2024 14:12

What I don’t understand is that that OP makes out that her parents are struggling financially but she is still taking whatever spare cash they have to put in her children’s savings as some sort of retribution for the 150k her brother had for his pilots training. This is so evil.

Latewinter · 27/01/2024 14:14

HarrietStyles · 27/01/2024 13:46

Here’s the alternative thread started by her brother:

AIBU? My parents loaned me money to train as a pilot. I have been paying it back monthly. My parents have come into difficult times financially, losing their business during Covid, so instead we’ve agreed that I’ll pay £700pm to cover their rent/bills. And after I’ve finished working abroad I’m going house my parents with me. However the problem is my sister - when my parents were better off financially they were paying money into a savings account every month for her kids. Now they can’t afford it and my sister is kicking off. She has no plans to help my parents out with their current financial difficulties, instead kicking off because her “inheritance” is being stolen from her. She expects me to repay the money in full to my parents (which I’m trying to do) however she is expecting free money, whilst expecting me to provide my parents with housing in the future. Who is being unreasonable me or my sister?

OP's writing isn't as bad as this though,

NoraBattysCurlers · 27/01/2024 14:14

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 27/01/2024 14:01

Why have you been accepting your parents putting so much money away for your children when their financial situation is shot?

@Poily your parents are in a dire financial situation. Yet all you care about is "your inheritance".

Grabby and uncaring doesn't begin to describe it.

AnneValentine · 27/01/2024 14:15

Poily · 27/01/2024 12:39

Why should my brother’s choice of repayment negatively impact my kids?

If he gives them back the money how would the rent and expenses be paid that he will cover?

Rosiiee · 27/01/2024 14:17

Ok so what I’m understanding is parents had 150k in savings. Brother needed it, they gave it to him. Plan was for him to pay your parents monthly money that they’d put into an account which would be yours eventually.

Now brother is paying their rent/bills so there’s no more money going into ‘your’ account.

This is what you’re frustrated about am I correct?

But if brother had paid the full 150k back and parents had put it into account for you then what would your brother get? Surely he’d be entitled to half of that account too?

So you’re annoyed about losing out on 75k. Would that be right?

I mean look. I can understand why you’re frustrated. I would be too. But in the long run your brother is offering to take your parents in, saving you care home expenses? He’d be entirely responsible for them financially. Seems like a win really.

Have you spoken to your parents about it all? What are their thoughts?

Bottom line is if your brother is repaying them less than the 150k then that difference has in fact become a gift, as opposed to a loan.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 27/01/2024 14:18

If your brother pays all of your parents’ rent/ bills etc directly then presumably they will be saving money as they’ll have no outgoings. Instead of paying their own bills/ rent etc with their income and putting your brother’s payment into your kids savings can’t your brother now pay their bills/ rent and they put their income into your child’s savings instead?

Ggttl · 27/01/2024 14:18

The fair options would be:

Your brother pays back 75,000 and for that money to go to you. That way you both get given 75,000. You get lucky because you don’t have to spend it on training for a job you don’t want to do.

or

Your brother pays back all of the 150,000and your parents lend it to you to train for another job. You then have to pay it back before they die so that you can both have an equal inheritance. This would be unrealistic but totally fair.

or

Your brother continues a job he doesn’t like so that he can pay back 150,000 and your parents spend it on themselves. Neither of you get anything but the benefit he got from being lent the money is offset by him being stuck in a job he doesn’t want to do.

Dustybarn · 27/01/2024 14:19

OP, what are you doing to help your parents given their terrible financial situation?

Skyiscrying · 27/01/2024 14:20

They aren’t dead. It’s not inheritance, it’s their money. If you want £150k for your kids you’re going to have to do that yourself.

I won’t receive anything but a funeral bill when my parents die. Your entitlement is astounding.

Rosiiee · 27/01/2024 14:21

I think people calling OP grabby are a bit unreasonable. If my sibling was given a gift then I’d expect a similar gift? In the same way that my house deposit was gifted to me, the same amount was given to my sibling. Equal treatment amongst siblings?

Chickpea17 · 27/01/2024 14:21

Stop worrying about money that's not even yours.

HarrietStyles · 27/01/2024 14:21

lapsedrdwhoenthusiast · 27/01/2024 14:10

I can see why you think it's unfair that your parents have given your brother 150k and not given you anything. People have got very focused on you calling it "your inheritance" but I can see why you're annoyed.

But they didn’t give him any money 🤷🏼‍♀️They loaned him money that he is paying back and still continues to pay back. So the brother ends up with nothing. The OP however HAS been gifted money every month by her parents, with no expectation to repay it, she’s just pissed that it’s stopping. If anyone has been unfairly treated it’s the brother.