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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

For thinking the Barbie film is shit?

147 replies

m00ngirl · 26/01/2024 23:52

Just watched it and it felt like a low brow pseudo feminism lecture (saying this as an actual feminist). All a bit cringe tbh. Not sure what the fuss is about. AIBU?

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Prrambulate · 27/01/2024 08:54

Precipice · 27/01/2024 00:53

Imagine starting a thread, about something you want to discuss/complain about, on Mumsnet, where people go to discuss things. Truly odd validation-seeking behaviour.

Fucking this every single time.

lostonmars · 27/01/2024 09:11

YANBU. Summed up my thoughts exactly.

pictoosh · 27/01/2024 09:17

To begin with I wasn't interested.
Then I got caught up in the hype and became curious.
Then I caught a virus and put it on as a comfort watch.
I was right in the first place. It wasn't very good.

I did snort laugh at Ryan Gosling a couple of times. He was game wasn't he?
I like Margot Robbie but the main Barbie character could have been played by anyone.

4/10

itsmyp4rty · 27/01/2024 09:28

I can't imagine thinking I might want to watch it in the first place.

liveforsummer · 27/01/2024 09:44

I loved it but then I love cheesy, simple things you can just relax watch and enjoy. If you're looking for high quality and meaningful then it's probably not for you. It's just a bit of fun

theyarereallytakingthepissnow · 27/01/2024 09:49

God, yes, it was so awful, wtf was all the hype about?! Depressing that this was held up as somehow being a big thing to educate girls/young women and to start conversations.. dire

11NigelTufnel · 27/01/2024 09:58

It had John Cena as a merman. Really the film could have been about anything and I would have enjoyed it after seeing that. I thought the Will Ferrell doing his man baby act yet again were beyond tedious, but everything else was fun.

pictoosh · 27/01/2024 10:01

See I forgot Will Ferrell was even in it. The Mattel scenes were pretty bad.

HMW1906 · 27/01/2024 10:01

We turned it off after 20 minutes, it was awful

pictoosh · 27/01/2024 10:06

Think my favourite bit was at the beginning; the life size versions of my childhood toys. The Barbie kitchen, the 'crockery' the 'food'. All those fiddly little things that inevitably got hoovered up or lost.
I can still hear the tiny carton of orange juice's death rattle as it disappeared through the rollers of the upright.

theyarereallytakingthepissnow · 27/01/2024 10:21

itsmyp4rty · 27/01/2024 09:28

I can't imagine thinking I might want to watch it in the first place.

Yes, I have no idea how my viewpoint changed from this

BusyMum47 · 27/01/2024 10:44

@m00ngirl

I didn't get what all the fuss was about - I thought it was 'meh' - alright as a bit of lighthearted fluff with a few funny moments & some great actors & 1 'rah rah for feminism' speech but that was about it. Think I fell asleep at 1 point!!

Properhoolietoday · 27/01/2024 12:05

I actually loved it - it was whimsical, and definitely not super deep, but it was a pretty good crash course in basic feminism/patriarchy. To that end, I considered that I probably wasn’t the target audience, but that it was potentially a ‘spice girls moment’ for a whole new generation. I feel like it had some powerful positive messages for young women.

This pretty much sums it up for me. I went because my daughter wanted to see it. But I enjoyed it more than expected and I think my daughter took a lot away from it.

"We mothers stand still so our daughters can look back to see how far they've come.”

This line in particular resonated with me and gave me a lump in the throat moment.

We don't all like or place value on the same things and obviously that's fine, but what I hate about Mumsnet is the type of comments that something is "shit", as if you are superior and above those of us that actually have a different opinion. Absolutely say something isn't for you, you felt it wasn't well made, didn't hold your interest, whatever. But the announcement that something is a bit shit is itself a bit shit.

hazandduck · 27/01/2024 12:19

Properhoolietoday · 27/01/2024 12:05

I actually loved it - it was whimsical, and definitely not super deep, but it was a pretty good crash course in basic feminism/patriarchy. To that end, I considered that I probably wasn’t the target audience, but that it was potentially a ‘spice girls moment’ for a whole new generation. I feel like it had some powerful positive messages for young women.

This pretty much sums it up for me. I went because my daughter wanted to see it. But I enjoyed it more than expected and I think my daughter took a lot away from it.

"We mothers stand still so our daughters can look back to see how far they've come.”

This line in particular resonated with me and gave me a lump in the throat moment.

We don't all like or place value on the same things and obviously that's fine, but what I hate about Mumsnet is the type of comments that something is "shit", as if you are superior and above those of us that actually have a different opinion. Absolutely say something isn't for you, you felt it wasn't well made, didn't hold your interest, whatever. But the announcement that something is a bit shit is itself a bit shit.

Same. Took my two little girls at the start of the summer hols on the day it came out. We all dressed up, I had not read anything about it just went expecting a silly fluff film about Barbie and Ken. Then had to explain why I had tears streaming down my face in several scenes.

I found the fraught relationship between the mother and daughter so moving. My girls are much younger than the daughter, just thinking of what is to come, and my own relationship with my mother and how cyclical life can be, ‘same script, different cast.’

During America’s speech the audience all
seemed to be holding their breath, my friend and I were in tears. Any woman who is juggling ageing, working, raising kids, existing in a world built for men can surely relate, so what if it’s been said before? It should be said again and again until something changes!

We then turned to our husbands and both said “See that’s what it’s like for us!” And they both said they’d zoned out.

It makes topics like feminism and the patriarchy digestible for a larger audience who would otherwise not even think about it. And it highlights how harmful it can be for everyone, not just women.

We left the cinema kind of angry and depressed, but at least feeling something which great art should do in my (unqualified, haven’t got a certificate for my art or feminism) humble opinion.

BritAirwaysgirl · 27/01/2024 12:23

Wasn't for me .... I fell asleep 3 times😩

Usernamen · 27/01/2024 12:45

I mean, yeah, as a film it was a bag of shite.

But the set design was fantastic - watching it at the cinema was like a very pink acid trip.

Usernamen · 27/01/2024 12:55

I completely disagree that it is empowering to women.

The central message seemed to be “look how oppressed, down-trodden and victimised we are 😩😩😩”

How TF is that empowering??

I also could not relate at all to America Ferrera’s big speech, that’s not my experience at all - I am surrounded by happy, confident, accomplished women with high self-worth (and am one myself).

So yeah, it was not for me, I’m afraid!

Usernamen · 27/01/2024 13:02

Oh, and for balance, I thought Oppenheimer was one of the most unspeakably dull films I have ever watched. The oscar nominations are a travesty!

Maybe I’m just hard to please 😂

Mind you, Poor Things (female lead) was outstanding and makes me so excited for Emma Stone’s career. Such a great talent, can’t wait to see more of her.

the80sweregreat · 27/01/2024 13:11

I liked Barbie.
I can see why Oppenheimer is up for so many awards , but it was boring and far too long and complex. It could have done with some text as to what was going on half the time to get an idea of the timelines

OriginalUsername2 · 27/01/2024 13:12

I was expecting to cringe throughout but I was proved wrong. It’s a good intro to feminism and the patriarchy for teens, it’s a beautiful production of design, it’s got some great dance routines and a fun soundtrack.

I did cringe at the speech. But since I took my DD to see it she’s looked into a lot of things herself and is developing opinions.

Groovy48592747 · 27/01/2024 13:17

It was a pile of poop. As users have said above. Struggling to make a story out it. Trying to show inclusivity by having Barbies any size/shape/colour/occupation but the main actress is more plastic and has had more surgery than the titular figure?

Kids hated it too. Boring. No storyline. One to be forgotten. Let's hope there's no sequal.

Crispsandwichrock · 27/01/2024 13:17

I loved it.
what's the test for being an "actual" feminist I wonder, OP?

Soubriquet · 27/01/2024 13:18

I like it but I don’t think it deserved the hype it got

Yorkshiretearascal · 27/01/2024 13:23

Scautish · 26/01/2024 23:56

YANBU as clearly every single person who has watched it before you loved it unconditionally yet you have the intelligence and insight to point out why we are all wrong.

I bow to your superior intellect.

Haha brilliant response!

Ramalangadingdong · 27/01/2024 13:46

Properhoolietoday · 27/01/2024 12:05

I actually loved it - it was whimsical, and definitely not super deep, but it was a pretty good crash course in basic feminism/patriarchy. To that end, I considered that I probably wasn’t the target audience, but that it was potentially a ‘spice girls moment’ for a whole new generation. I feel like it had some powerful positive messages for young women.

This pretty much sums it up for me. I went because my daughter wanted to see it. But I enjoyed it more than expected and I think my daughter took a lot away from it.

"We mothers stand still so our daughters can look back to see how far they've come.”

This line in particular resonated with me and gave me a lump in the throat moment.

We don't all like or place value on the same things and obviously that's fine, but what I hate about Mumsnet is the type of comments that something is "shit", as if you are superior and above those of us that actually have a different opinion. Absolutely say something isn't for you, you felt it wasn't well made, didn't hold your interest, whatever. But the announcement that something is a bit shit is itself a bit shit.

I think it’s ok to say something was a bit shit if that’s what you thought. Just as anyone can say it was great. The two ideas can coexist. If I say it is shit then argue the toss I’m not saying you’re shit or that you have shit for brains. If I say the film was inane doesn’t mean I think you are inane for liking it. I watch and enjoy plenty of crap just not Barbie because I thought the film often (not always) had its head stuck up its own arse (hence the crap?)

Are we losing the art of disagreement?