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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask if you work or are a SAHP..

832 replies

DontBeTight · 26/01/2024 15:58

Just that really, those of you who have children under school age. Do you work, or do you stay at home? Or work part time? My youngest won't start school until 2026 so I'm considering giving up work and having the rest of the time full time at home with her as my income makes very little difference to the household.

Those who stay at home, do you enjoy it?

OP posts:
indigoskies · 01/02/2024 21:13

@SouthLondonMum22 I have absolutely nothing to say about your life, your work, your children - nothing at all. Why would I? You have a lot to say about SAHMs. That's the difference.

Oliotya · 01/02/2024 21:14

LorlieS · 01/02/2024 21:08

@Oliotya In many, many different ways. One example as above.

Fine, preteens call you miss. But you're a TA who's husband carries the biggesg financial load. That's all great, noble profession, but absolutely female dominant, and nothing about your life appears to scream fuck the patriarchy. Get off your high horse.

SouthLondonMum22 · 01/02/2024 21:14

0rangeCrush · 01/02/2024 21:11

I get the opposite.

”what’s your husbands name?”
”I don’t have a husband”
”huh? But you have kids?”
“yup”
”are you a single mum”
”nope, I’m going out with their dad”
”are you getting married then?”
”nope, why would I do that?”

cue confusion.

I get similar but because I'm married and kept my last name. 🙄

Whatdoy · 01/02/2024 21:14

0rangeCrush · 01/02/2024 21:11

I get the opposite.

”what’s your husbands name?”
”I don’t have a husband”
”huh? But you have kids?”
“yup”
”are you a single mum”
”nope, I’m going out with their dad”
”are you getting married then?”
”nope, why would I do that?”

cue confusion.

Really?! It’s totally normal not to be married to your kids dad, not even slightly unusual (unless you’re in a fundamentalist religion or something).

SouthLondonMum22 · 01/02/2024 21:16

indigoskies · 01/02/2024 21:13

@SouthLondonMum22 I have absolutely nothing to say about your life, your work, your children - nothing at all. Why would I? You have a lot to say about SAHMs. That's the difference.

and we go back to the fact that AIBU would be very, very quiet if we all had nothing to say.

BreeBacon · 01/02/2024 21:18

0rangeCrush · 01/02/2024 21:08

”. I find masculinity sexy so the idea of a man who wanted to look after babies all day and lacked ambition for a career would be a huge turn off. I'd find it wimpy.”

You don’t say it’s for your husband - in fact, you specifically say a man

Yes, I'D find it wimpy. Not that all men who choose this are wimpy. Oddly enough I don't think my opinions are indicative of how the world should be nor should they be applied in that way. That is your choice to interpret my comments in an incorrect manner, though it really isn't too difficult to see the difference.

indigoskies · 01/02/2024 21:19

Well I genuinely don't have anything to say about you, just because you have a job. What is there to actually say?

0rangeCrush · 01/02/2024 21:20

Whatdoy · 01/02/2024 21:14

Really?! It’s totally normal not to be married to your kids dad, not even slightly unusual (unless you’re in a fundamentalist religion or something).

I don’t know many people in a long term relationship with kids who are not married, to be honest. All our friends are married.

I am most certainly not part of a fundy religious group. God no.

LorlieS · 01/02/2024 21:22

@Oliotya Wrong again - assumptions make an ass out of you and me!
I'm a qualified teacher with 20 years experience, working as a SEN Specialist HLTA. From September I will be also undertaking my MSc in Counselling Children and Young People.
I am bloody proud of the job I do, supporting EHCP children within mainstream classes.
When qualified and have set up an established client base I expect to be earning far more than my husband.
HTH?

SouthLondonMum22 · 01/02/2024 21:22

indigoskies · 01/02/2024 21:19

Well I genuinely don't have anything to say about you, just because you have a job. What is there to actually say?

I've had people say plenty to me on here about being a working mother. That's just what can happen when you share anything about your life on here.

0rangeCrush · 01/02/2024 21:22

BreeBacon · 01/02/2024 21:18

Yes, I'D find it wimpy. Not that all men who choose this are wimpy. Oddly enough I don't think my opinions are indicative of how the world should be nor should they be applied in that way. That is your choice to interpret my comments in an incorrect manner, though it really isn't too difficult to see the difference.

You find men who are SAHD’s wimpy, but you also confirm that not all men who choose this are wimpy?

Are SAHM’s also wimpy?

indigoskies · 01/02/2024 21:23

LorlieS - I have a very similar Msc. It's why I decided to be a SAHM when the time came!

LorlieS · 01/02/2024 21:24

@0rangeCrush No - they're "feminine."

BreeBacon · 01/02/2024 21:26

0rangeCrush · 01/02/2024 21:13

Looks like backtracking to me.

You said that men who look after their children are wimpy, unattractive and feminine. I thought you were all about owning your views?

I've stood firm on my opinions from the get go, despite inevitably coming under fire from multiple users. No backtracking here, perhaps try to understand the comments a little better.

LorlieS · 01/02/2024 21:26

@indigoskies I was a SAHM bar one day when I had my two sons (not through choice). I hated it.
Can't wait to return to uni and do my masters!
Why didn't you pursue your career may I ask?
That's not a criticism whatsoever, genuinely interested.

0rangeCrush · 01/02/2024 21:27

LorlieS · 01/02/2024 21:24

@0rangeCrush No - they're "feminine."

Logo Tv Heart GIF by RuPaul's Drag Race

I’m feminine as fuck me! Look at me over here, boobies and all, ironing a shirt! Then I take my vagina to the kitchen to load the dishwasher!

stayathomer · 01/02/2024 21:28

4 kids, work in retail 39 hr week. also an author and hope to start earning enough soon so it can be a ft thing. Miss being a sahp and we are both close to being fired anyway as kids have been sick so much this year and we’ve both been getting into trouble. Arguing more plus kids are missing out on doing classes outside school which hilariously we couldn’t afford when I didn’t work. I’d have loved my job pre kids but now I just feel old and wrecked. Nobody else there has kids. I love them all but it’s hard that nobody gets it or understands why I’m just broken!!

BreeBacon · 01/02/2024 21:28

LorlieS · 01/02/2024 21:22

@Oliotya Wrong again - assumptions make an ass out of you and me!
I'm a qualified teacher with 20 years experience, working as a SEN Specialist HLTA. From September I will be also undertaking my MSc in Counselling Children and Young People.
I am bloody proud of the job I do, supporting EHCP children within mainstream classes.
When qualified and have set up an established client base I expect to be earning far more than my husband.
HTH?

AND? Do you want a gold star. Still not making a difference to the patriarchy though are you.

Oliotya · 01/02/2024 21:28

LorlieS · 01/02/2024 21:22

@Oliotya Wrong again - assumptions make an ass out of you and me!
I'm a qualified teacher with 20 years experience, working as a SEN Specialist HLTA. From September I will be also undertaking my MSc in Counselling Children and Young People.
I am bloody proud of the job I do, supporting EHCP children within mainstream classes.
When qualified and have set up an established client base I expect to be earning far more than my husband.
HTH?

You do realise every one of us would have had a job or even career before having kids? You can't lecture people based on a job you used to have (again female dominant), or degree you have yet to do. There's no need to get defensive, as I said, TA is a noble profession, but it's not sticking one to the patriarchy. I'm not judging you, but you're hardly a super feminist.

LorlieS · 01/02/2024 21:29

@BreeBacon Absolutely I am.
What do you suggest? 😂

indigoskies · 01/02/2024 21:29

Are some posters on here actually SAHDs, pretending to be women? Why all the outrage, just because one poster PERSONALLY prefers a man who is more traditional in terms of wanting to provide for his family financially? Is this now a crime?

0rangeCrush · 01/02/2024 21:29

BreeBacon · 01/02/2024 21:28

AND? Do you want a gold star. Still not making a difference to the patriarchy though are you.

Are those questions or statements? Your writing style is confusing.

Whatdoy · 01/02/2024 21:30

0rangeCrush · 01/02/2024 21:20

I don’t know many people in a long term relationship with kids who are not married, to be honest. All our friends are married.

I am most certainly not part of a fundy religious group. God no.

Maybe it’s geographical- round here it’s really common, definitely wouldn’t raise an eyebrow never mind a question.

LorlieS · 01/02/2024 21:31

@Oliotya I had no idea only women who earn megabucks in male-dominated roles could be feminists?!
Thanks for clarifying that for me.

Oliotya · 01/02/2024 21:31

BreeBacon · 01/02/2024 21:28

AND? Do you want a gold star. Still not making a difference to the patriarchy though are you.

I didn't take my DHs name. I've never even worn a wedding ring. Can I get a gold star too? Even though I'm "just" a mummy*? Or am automatically disqualified because I haven't got a career at the moment? That's how it works isn't it?

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