To wonder why people aren’t worried about this??

[Mummytotwonow]

https://news.sky.com/story/time-to-think-the-unthinkable-and-consider-uk-conscription-says-britains-former-top-nato-commander-13056148

Sorry if I’ve missed any threads on this.

It’s not just sky news reporting this but for days now in the media this is being raised.

AIBU - to be extremely worried and concerned about this?

Is anyone else not worried?? Are we being prepared ready as “the higher up” know more and the threat is bigger than we’re told.

what age would it be from and to??

l‘m so scared for the world our children are growing up in 😢

A quick look at either the Queens funeral or the Kings coronation will show you a lot of people still have a huge amounts of patriotism and national pride. Don’t underestimate that.

Don’t worry - all the Brexit flagshaggers will be down at the sign up office before sunrise tomorrow to do their patriotic duty. It’s what they’ve been waiting for all their lives.

Actually yes prison staff were exempt last time and paramedics comes under essential medicine.

No because they’d be a skeleton staff. Prisoners would be sent to war. Only serial killers would remain locked up, so we wouldn’t need most prison service staff, and with a quarter of the population fighting a war we wouldn’t need as many paramedics either. In fact we would cope with the bare minimum while they were sent with the forces as valuable medics.

Pension - you mean that distant thing whose goalposts keep moving that I will most likely be dead before I'm old enough to receive?

Qualified teachers too

Laws and policies have been known to change somewhat when the opportunity arises.

Laughs in COVID

What generation are you from then? Dismissive of the younger generation not wanting to potentially die in a war. It is all very well belittling and noticebly from your posts, willingly sending the males off in your life to fight a war on your behalf, what about you?

I hate this attitude as if you're British and born post 1945 you have not known anything other than peace. My Grandad was in the Signal Corps in the 2nd WW landed on Gold beach on D day and saw his friend's head blown off, he had to be ahead of fellow soldiers, hooking up communication lines, I went with him and my Dad to Normandy for him to receive his 50th anniversary D day medal. He was a modest man and didn't really want to go as after the war he wanted to forget it all such was the horror, my Dad persuaded him but he wouldn't go for the official ceremony, he visited a month later and was given it at the local Mayor's office. When we visited Gold beach he cried, I'd never seen him cry before, I was 14 and completely unaware of the enormity of the sacrifices that generation had made, it all seems in vain now. You damn right I want my teen DS and younger DD to experience happiness and be unburdened by the weight of war otherwise what was the point of my Granddad's efforts!

We are weak if in a constant state of fear.

This is a great great point by @Theothersideofthefence its exactly how they got us to bend during COVID, and given everything the government did whilst we were all sticking to the their rules, I'd say they have used up their grace with the British public now, and conscription won't work, too many people will say no!

It's also worth noting, that it's takes a long time and a lot of training, before the military send anyone out on active deployment, particularly to a hostile warzone.

The UK military doesn't need anyone else, because whilst we don't have the biggest army in the world, if we do go to war, we will be fighting Russia as part of a NATO, so will be making up part of a much bigger army.

I think what has happened is someone has made a comment as part of a larger discussion, which the media has run with and has been blown out of all proportion, please try not and worry OP, it's so unlikely it's almost impossible, I was terrified when I first saw it, and then I talked it out with my dad, who is the world's most practical and level headed man ever, and I felt much better.

Our grandparents fought for our lives and freedom - if it comes to it we will have to do the same and should be proud and so grateful for those who are prepared to do this for us.

I’m pointing out exempt professions in the last war and why

Obviously, for example, some doctors went to war as they were needed but it was still and exempt profession,

Prisoners would be sent to war. Only serial killers would remain locked up, so we wouldn’t need most prison service staff,

Really?! Even rapists? God that's a scary thought.

@Mulhollandmagoo would love your dad to speak to my autistic daughter I can’t get through to her. Have been on phone with adult mental health her anxiety is rocketing.

We have an expensive nuclear arsenal.
But what's the point in that if we are at war with Russia. We aren't going to fire it if they just invade 1 country in NATO

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To be fair, most of the people I know went out as a group for a nice day out in London and to be part of the circus. No personal sacrifice required.

Bit different to sending your DH or DS to war.

It would likely be seen as an opportunity to make amends for their crime. I would have no problem with this.

Why?

Lots of people are starving and homeless. Not sure they would see much difference.

Not sure if this has already been mentioned as haven't read the whole thread, but when I'm alarmed about anything to do with global politics. I go straight to

https://youtube.com/@restispolitics?si=eczdfTfMydM-bM9d

as Alastair and Rory are probably two of the most articulate, educated, experienced human beings in my opinion, who can explain what's going on in the world. They are a formidable double act who have found a niche following.

As a nation we have too many people who have 'conditions' and poor physical health.

I doubt anyone will make the grade for conscription, judging by the sheer volume of posters with disorders, anxiety and other MH conditions.

What might worry the 'anxious ' folk is that they will most certainly be called up to the Home Guard ie Dad's Army.

But they wouldn’t be ‘unburdened by the weight of war’ would they? The invasion would go ahead unchallenged and their futures would be incredibly bleak.

Well, I don’t know your social group so can’t comment, but patriotism at times of crisis is strong.

Making a bid for increased defence spending - almost certainly.

Scenario planning for Trump winning the US presidential election and reducing US commitment to NATO - also a possibility.

Amount that any of us can do to influence the tendency of bad-tempered old men to want to destroy things - small.

It’s not the same as tyrannical rule, autocratic government and system wide human rights abuses.

People would fight - for survival.

Most of us have nowhere to flee too - and with the current attitude towards refugees, who would want us?

Yes I imagine so. The whole thing would be scary. I wouldn’t object to rapists being cannon fodder.