To wonder why people aren’t worried about this??

[Mummytotwonow]

https://news.sky.com/story/time-to-think-the-unthinkable-and-consider-uk-conscription-says-britains-former-top-nato-commander-13056148

Sorry if I’ve missed any threads on this.

It’s not just sky news reporting this but for days now in the media this is being raised.

AIBU - to be extremely worried and concerned about this?

Is anyone else not worried?? Are we being prepared ready as “the higher up” know more and the threat is bigger than we’re told.

what age would it be from and to??

l‘m so scared for the world our children are growing up in 😢

The USA and the UK are both short forms of United Blah of Flibble. It's grammatically correct to prepend the definite article to a phrase describing a group:

• The Alps (there's more than one mountain)
• The United Kingdom of Great Britain (this is describing an island with several nations on it) and Northern Ireland
• The United States (more than one) of America

Ukraine and Crimea are not groups, so no definite article. We don't say "the Australia".

“WinterMorn · Today 10:12

Can people please stop saying THE Ukraine? It’s Ukraine. THE Ukraine is the Russian styling.

Why would you want to post that? Why even think it? NO IT IS NOT. It is The Ukraine, just like we say The US. It has always been The Ukraine; also The Crimea. It may be something to do with the consonants which follow the 'U', We also say The UK. I like to think that the 'The' goes back to the Crimean War and before. Certainly it gave the Ukraine the prestige it deserved after the suffering in WW2.”

This must be a joke post.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

although I k ow this is a joke, on reflection it's not actually funny

Ah. It's all NATO's fault

Got it 🤣🤣

Sorry but this is not correct. The official Ukrainian position is that "The Ukraine" is both grammatically and politically incorrect. The use of ‘The Ukraine’ relates to the time before independence in 1991, when Ukraine was a republic of the Soviet Union known as ‘The Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic’ and was known as The Borderland. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukrainians decided that the ‘The’ article denigrated their country by identifying it as a part of Russia and abolished it. Ukraine is the name stated in the Ukrainian Declaration of Independence and Constitution.

@llizzie you are totally incorrect. It’s UKRAINE. Why don’t you get that? If you don’t believe me, why don’t you take it up with the Embassy, who were saying this over a decade ago…..

@llizzie I will await your apology.

Unlikely you’ll get one. I posted pretty much the same information. Amazing how fast people disappear from threads after being called out for posting nonsense !!

If they can manage to get my 18 year old out of bed, washed, dressed in ironed uniform, wearing polished boots by 6 in the morning then they can have him

It wasn’t just the inaccuracy, it was the supremely arrogant tone! So rude.

At the moment it would appear so, sadly. Starmer doesn't show any interest in reversing either the reactionary social attitudes or the antidemocratic manouverings of the Tories. His tenure as Labour leader has been marked by the most cynical corruption in the service of authoritarian control, so one can only imagine that's how he means to go on.

You do know Russia hasn't been communist for over 30 years, right?

Ummmm Russia literally invaded Europe when it invaded Ukraine (NB not THE Ukraine). NATO has not attacked or invaded Russia. No we do not want to attack Russia. Ask yiurself why on earth we would want to do that? And in fact I'd argue we aren't being robust enough in holding them back. Russia is operating against us on various fronts through its allies. It really is time to stand up for democracy. So we still have the freedom to say stupid Russian propagandist shit like some of the posts on this thread.

You are quite the joker aren't you?

There are some very warped views on here

The same reason we have anything. Because it served the interests of a certain section of the ruling class to take us out of the European Union.

If Russia is not a democracy, how come it has elections? I didn't say either country was "not a democracy". I said they were nominal ones that function more like oligarchies. There are certain procedures to make a show of democracy, with rules and restrictions and choices carefully devised to ensure they can't threaten the power or economic privilege of the establishment.

Sure, you have a point - we have gay marriage, and probably a few other things I could think of that are better than Russia. Pretty low bar though, for a country that considers itself a beacon of enlightened western democracy. I expect more. If the government wants my loyalty, it will need to give me more.

What's been comin? Once again: nothing has actually happened. Nobody in any position of power to make it happen has even suggested that it's going to happen.

That's the thing. They can only get in because there is no difference.

And Russia is a multi-party electoral democracy. Their governments can be replaced just like ours.

Ukrainian wheat is 9% of world trade. China is 17%, followed by India followed by Russia. FYI. Actually in 2020 Ukrainian wheat was 3.1% of the global trade

and there can’t be Russian styling of THE Ukraine or Ukraine because Russians speak Russian and not English therefore they don’t have THE particle…

Were you on here for Covid?

I guess this is this version for now

You think that's a joke? I'm struggling to work out what's even questionable about it. We know what his policies are (to the extent that he has any) and his actions as Labour leader are a matter of public record, albeit not widely reported. This is just factual.

The thought of our nation not being able to defend itself terrifies me. What also puzzles me is that our government is really fond of trumpeting how vulnerable we are. In May 2023, there were questions regarding the detrimental affects to our RAF due to the of training Ukrainian pilots; at that time the government were still toying with the idea of more cuts to the armed forces, or increases due to growing security threats in Europe. The costs of maintaining our armed forces is immense; if our current government hadn't squandered so much money over this past 14 years, maybe we wouldn't be in such a mess now. Ukraine is - by default, fighting on our behalf and we cannot afford, in any way, shape or form to stop supporting them.

@EasternStandard yes, I was. I agree that this has become the replacement drum to beat. It’s the same crowd all over again.