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That if your male child has shoulder length hair it's reasonable to expect other kids will pass comment?

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mrsfinch6 · 23/01/2024 11:05

Dropping DS5 and DS3 off at nursery this morning when the nursery manager took me aside and wanted to “discuss an incident that happened yesterday” I was a bit confused because when I had collected them both the day before everything was fine.

The “incident” was that there is a little boy at nursery with shoulder length, curly blonde hair, and DS3 has been calling him a girl.

The parent of this child went into nursery this morning to report to the staff that my DS was calling him a girl. The nursery manager wanted my assurances that I would be firm with DS at home and have “the conversation” regarding this.

AIBU to say that if you have a 4 year old male child with long blonde hair that it is realistic to expect that other children in that age group will pass comment?

DS3 is very much of the opinion that “pink is for girls, blue is for boys, girls wear dresses and boys wear trousers etc” he only likes typical boys toys, whereas DS5 is a bit less bothered, he picked a pink scooter and is partial to a unicorn, I don’t encourage or discourage either way, however I do believe in sex not gender and whilst I appreciate there are a multitude of reasons why this child has long hair, I don’t think it’s my 3 year olds issue tbh

They are very young kids and yes I have spoken to him and reiterated that we don’t tease other kids and that it’s not kind to pass comment on others appearance but honestly? Reporting it to the nursery? Talk about extreme.

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dimllaishebiaith · 24/01/2024 18:42

KarenNotAKaren · 24/01/2024 18:36

Only on MN could a thread about the length of boy’s hair turn into a debate on what Jesus looked like 🤣

This thread makes me miss my boy having his long hair. He’s 7 now and prefers it short as it used to tickle him apparently, but when I look back at photos he looked amazing with it his lovely thick locks

That's what happens when people decide to cherry pick scripture to justify their biases 😂

KarenNotAKaren · 24/01/2024 18:47

dimllaishebiaith · 24/01/2024 18:42

That's what happens when people decide to cherry pick scripture to justify their biases 😂

🤪

I am Jewish and I think everything you’ve said is Bob on. There are many depictions of Jesus that are completely at odds with what a Jewish man in the ME would look like at the time.

Mind you there’s a significant faction now who deny Jesus was even Jewish which demonstrates the total and utter bollocks people spout when they have a platform.

EasterIssland · 24/01/2024 18:48

I’m quite concerned about myself. I’m a 39 year old lady who has had long hair since she was 16-17 and I want to pixie cut It but seems like I shouldn’t then cuz that not what women do?

dimllaishebiaith · 24/01/2024 18:49

KarenNotAKaren · 24/01/2024 18:47

🤪

I am Jewish and I think everything you’ve said is Bob on. There are many depictions of Jesus that are completely at odds with what a Jewish man in the ME would look like at the time.

Mind you there’s a significant faction now who deny Jesus was even Jewish which demonstrates the total and utter bollocks people spout when they have a platform.

Mind you there’s a significant faction now who deny Jesus was even Jewish which demonstrates the total and utter bollocks people spout when they have a platform.

Well that's.... novel 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Frequency · 24/01/2024 18:49

EasterIssland · 24/01/2024 18:48

I’m quite concerned about myself. I’m a 39 year old lady who has had long hair since she was 16-17 and I want to pixie cut It but seems like I shouldn’t then cuz that not what women do?

You will 100% grow a penis if you cut your hair. The shorter the cut, the bigger the penis.

dimllaishebiaith · 24/01/2024 18:51

EasterIssland · 24/01/2024 18:48

I’m quite concerned about myself. I’m a 39 year old lady who has had long hair since she was 16-17 and I want to pixie cut It but seems like I shouldn’t then cuz that not what women do?

So long as you understand you will be responsible for the breakdown of society

But then you are a woman so you were already responsible for the breakdown of society, so there's nothing left to lose really

Frequency · 24/01/2024 18:53

Unless it is a bob because they are only for women, like this lovely lady...

That if your male child has shoulder length hair it's reasonable to expect other kids will pass comment?
EasterIssland · 24/01/2024 18:54

Frequency · 24/01/2024 18:49

You will 100% grow a penis if you cut your hair. The shorter the cut, the bigger the penis.

Now i understand why my husband has told me he likes my long hair and not to cut it 😂😂

EasterIssland · 24/01/2024 18:55

dimllaishebiaith · 24/01/2024 18:51

So long as you understand you will be responsible for the breakdown of society

But then you are a woman so you were already responsible for the breakdown of society, so there's nothing left to lose really

I like the idea. Future generations of the world will learn that easterissland broke the society. I’ll be famous 😂

KarenNotAKaren · 24/01/2024 18:55

dimllaishebiaith · 24/01/2024 18:49

Mind you there’s a significant faction now who deny Jesus was even Jewish which demonstrates the total and utter bollocks people spout when they have a platform.

Well that's.... novel 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Yep. Being a Jew in the 21st century is interesting to say the least.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 24/01/2024 18:55

EasterIssland · 24/01/2024 18:54

Now i understand why my husband has told me he likes my long hair and not to cut it 😂😂

Nah, he'll be fine if you use enough lube.

KarenNotAKaren · 24/01/2024 18:56

EasterIssland · 24/01/2024 18:48

I’m quite concerned about myself. I’m a 39 year old lady who has had long hair since she was 16-17 and I want to pixie cut It but seems like I shouldn’t then cuz that not what women do?

Oh I REALLY wish I was brave enough to go for a pixie Bob cut I’ve a feeling my jaw is too strong to pull it off.

EasterIssland · 24/01/2024 18:56

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 24/01/2024 18:55

Nah, he'll be fine if you use enough lube.

🤣🤣

KarenNotAKaren · 24/01/2024 18:56

dimllaishebiaith · 24/01/2024 18:51

So long as you understand you will be responsible for the breakdown of society

But then you are a woman so you were already responsible for the breakdown of society, so there's nothing left to lose really

🤣🤣🤣

Asparagus1 · 24/01/2024 18:59

I work in a nursery. In the past we have had boys with long hair, past shoulder length, tied up etc. When new other children have thought girl but have easily been corrected. We also have children who struggle with correct pronouns no matter what the other child looks like! We wouldn’t speak to a parent unless we thought it was deliberate and malicious but I can’t imagine at that age it would be?

SweetBirdsong · 24/01/2024 19:00

Frequency · 24/01/2024 18:49

You will 100% grow a penis if you cut your hair. The shorter the cut, the bigger the penis.

Rushes to get the clippers to give DH a No 1 all over. 😂

porridgeisbae · 24/01/2024 19:08

dimllaishebiaith · 24/01/2024 17:02

The think is even if we did believe there were "clothes for men" and "clothes for women" @porridgeisbae is one again cherry picking what they want to believe from the Bible

You cannot on one hand demand that Paul's interpretation of Christianity is adhered to by quoting his words from first Corinthians and then simultaneously demand that the laws of Deuteronomy are followed when Paul himself confirmed that Christians are not held to Mosaic law of which Deuteronomy makes up a big part of this.

Either you are following Paul's version of Christianity or not, but you can't cherry pick both way (obviously I don't mean you @VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia )

Its all highly irrelevant as the general public shouldn't be held to some standards of a religion they may not follow anyway. I just hate it when people try to use religion (any religion) to try to enforce the behaviours that satisfy their prejudices whilst ignoring the religious teachings that are inconvenient for them to follow.

In fact in 1 Corinthian which has already been quoted is the phrase ‭‭What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church

But apparently that one is easier to conveniently ignore... (again not aimed at you @VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia just general musing)

Paul still says that it's shameful for a man to have long hair. He assumes his audience will see that as self-evident and uses that to build the rest of his argument on a foundation he assumes those he's talking to will agree with him on.

Jesus said he did not come to overthrow the law and this is clearly part of the old law that Paul thinks still holds true.

The verses you quote is followed by the statement that we are not to judge those outside but that doesn't mean God won't. Paul was writing mainly about church discipline in that part. He makes plenty of statements throughout his writings that the behaviour of The World is dodgy.

dimllaishebiaith · 24/01/2024 19:26

porridgeisbae · 24/01/2024 19:08

Paul still says that it's shameful for a man to have long hair. He assumes his audience will see that as self-evident and uses that to build the rest of his argument on a foundation he assumes those he's talking to will agree with him on.

Jesus said he did not come to overthrow the law and this is clearly part of the old law that Paul thinks still holds true.

The verses you quote is followed by the statement that we are not to judge those outside but that doesn't mean God won't. Paul was writing mainly about church discipline in that part. He makes plenty of statements throughout his writings that the behaviour of The World is dodgy.

Yes but you were trying to justify men not being able to wear womens clothing with that Deuteronomy verse

And yet that's part of Mosaic law not the 1 Corinthians verses

And I still believe its hypocritical for you to come on a thread of people you don't know to be Christian and rebuke them for men having long hair when you don't even follow the rest of that passage consistently yourself

The verses you quote is followed by the statement that we are not to judge those outside but that doesn't mean God won't.

I mean if you want to set yourself up as God then go to it...

StockpotSoup · 24/01/2024 19:30

Paul still says that it's shameful for a man to have long hair.

Paul should keep his bloody beak out.

swimsong · 24/01/2024 19:52

porridgeisbae · 24/01/2024 15:35

I think it's partly a separate issue. Yes it goes on about women covering their head in church (which I do sometimes until I lost my veil lol.) But it's also related to Deuteronomy 22:5- it's wrong for a man to wear the clothing, jewellery etc of a woman and by extension the hair. It is wrong for a man to dress as a woman etc. https://rcg.org/youth/questions/0302-002.html

Oh that'll be the same Deuteronomy (23:1/2) that says if your great great great great great great great great grandparents weren't married you can't go to heaven.

And "If a man is wounded in the stones are hath his privy member cut off he shall not enter the congregation of the Lord".

That Deuteronomy? 🙄

AStrangeStateofMatter · 24/01/2024 19:52

Frequency · 24/01/2024 18:49

You will 100% grow a penis if you cut your hair. The shorter the cut, the bigger the penis.

So @EasterIssland if you’re going to do it… go for a buzz cut!

SmilingMoon · 24/01/2024 19:55

StockpotSoup · 24/01/2024 19:30

Paul still says that it's shameful for a man to have long hair.

Paul should keep his bloody beak out.

After Jesus, Paul was perhaps the most important figure in Christianity. He turned from actively trying to murder Christians, to being flogged, shipwrecked, pummelled with rocks, and imprisoned for the sake of Christianity. He was a beloved mentor to many, and his letters of encouragement and teaching to the early churches have had an enormous influence on Christianity throughout the ages.
Just one example of the incredible things he wrote:
1 Corinthians 13:4–8a
Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends.

^^

EasterIssland · 24/01/2024 19:59

AStrangeStateofMatter · 24/01/2024 19:52

So @EasterIssland if you’re going to do it… go for a buzz cut!

Edited

😂😂
my husband nearly choked when I’ve reproduced this conversation during dinner time 😂

AStrangeStateofMatter · 24/01/2024 19:59

SmilingMoon · 24/01/2024 18:39

But that's because John the Baptist may have been a Nazirite, who were instructed to not cut their hair.

“All the days of his vow of separation, no razor shall touch his head. Until the time is completed for which he separates himself to the Lord, he shall be holy. He shall let the locks of hair of his head grow long." Numbers 6:5

For behold, you shall conceive and bear a son. No razor shall come upon his head, for the child shall be a Nazirite to God from the womb, and he shall begin to save Israel from the hand of the Philistines.” Judges 15:5

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Nazirite

Maybe this long haired kid is a Nazirite.

AStrangeStateofMatter · 24/01/2024 20:01

EasterIssland · 24/01/2024 19:59

😂😂
my husband nearly choked when I’ve reproduced this conversation during dinner time 😂

😂😂😂

I’m a bit worried though… my wife has a close shave over 3/4 of her head!

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