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I want to be called Nonna but….

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Moira1951 · 23/01/2024 10:00

I’ve been told Nonna is unacceptable by my son as they want my first ever grandchild (at 73) to call me granny. I don’t want to be called granny, do I have a choice as to what I’d like to be known as?

OP posts:
SandyWaves · 23/01/2024 12:32

Moira1951 · 23/01/2024 10:28

Hi, I have no Italian connection, I just thought it was cute, and nicer than Nana, it’s so similar I didn’t think it’d be an issue.

Then that's just weird IMO

Why would the parents want their child to call you by a name for Nana in a different language?! Bizarre

Mirabai · 23/01/2024 12:32

Heronwatcher · 23/01/2024 12:23

I know! But in the context of your post you were using them as names and they are, and have been for some time, used as names in Britain. Hence my point they are now anglicised names. No one I know in Britain who is not Italian uses Nonna for gran, so in my view that is not anglicised in the same way.

Well you now how things get anglicised? They start using them.

You now know my mother. And possibly the OP.

SwordToFlamethrower · 23/01/2024 12:33

Moira1951 · 23/01/2024 10:29

I thought it was a bit controlling!

It is controlling. Put your foot down OP!

My mil wanted to be called Oma because she is Dutch.

We respect that because it is up to her what she is called!

Imagine of our kids started doing this to us, "your name is Pamela, not mummy and it isn't up to you!"

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 23/01/2024 12:36

VoleChomper · 23/01/2024 12:31

The tone is a bit woe is me but I'd love to hear more about some of these things the OP has been 'pulled up' on.

She doesn't seem to want to expand further on that, so I'm not sure why she's included it.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 23/01/2024 12:36

I became a grandmother last year, and my son and DIL let me choose what I want to be called, but if they hadn't been happy with what I chose (Granny), then I would have chosen something different.

When I had my dses, my mum refused point blank to be called Nana - which was what we had called her mum, but my mum had always hated. I loved the title Nana - because it was associated with my lovely grandmother - but I respected my mum's view on this, and was happy for her to be grandma.

I do think that Nonna is nice, @Moira1951, though I do associate it with Italian grandmothers, and I understand why you are disappointed not to be able to use it - but in the long run, the pleasure of being a grandmother will vastly outweigh any disappointment at not being Nonna, I promise.

Moira1951 · 23/01/2024 12:37

YouveGotAFastCar · 23/01/2024 12:05

Then genuinely, I'd back off.

If they've found a few things they've felt worth "pulling you up" on in the last year, they clearly think you're overstepping, even if you don't agree - and it's impacting on your relationship with your son.

They'll refer to you to their son more, so whatever they call you will be what sticks. If they refer to you as "granny" - "Do you want to go and see Granny?", "Oh that's Granny", etc, that'll be what he calls you, unless he happens to accidentally create a nickname at some point.

But genuinely I'd be more concerned about losing contact with all of them than this. Step back.

BTW I don’t overstep, I hardly see them, not even once a month! I only ever see DIL with my son despite trying to cultivate a relationship with her. She’s not interested, but polite. I don’t have a daughter, I’d love to have her as a friend but after seven years I can see it won’t happen. Often when I do see them, it’s because I’ve suggested a pub lunch or invited them over. I’m a widow and would love to see them more!

OP posts:
Strangermanger · 23/01/2024 12:38

Always makes me think of a vulva for some reason!

FlissyPaps · 23/01/2024 12:39

ICanSeeMyHouseFromHere · 23/01/2024 10:32

Call yourself Nonna if you want! Please don't let all these other people dissuade you (or your kids force you into Grandma if you don't want it)

People complain that the English don't learn other languages, then, when they try to use another language suddenly that's bad too - so what if it's 'a bit weird' are we scared of people being a bit different now?

Wanting to be called “Nonna” is hardly learning another language is it 😂

The OP even admitted she didn’t know it was the Italian word for Grandmother.

Willyoujustbequiet · 23/01/2024 12:39

We had Amma in my neck of the woods which I believe could be the Viking heritage here, but I'd think it a bit daft to be Nonna with no Italian connection.

Avoidingsleep · 23/01/2024 12:40

I find it odd, myself and other people I know asked the grandparents what they would like to be known as.

but I also find it odd when people insist they can’t be the same (e.g. 2 grandmas). There was a story on Reddit where a child had 8 grandparents and the mother was annoyed that 2 of them wanted to be called the same thing.

My son has a Nanny and Grandad, and a Grandma and Grandad. All 4 grandparents picked their preferred name.

That said. Is it a hill you are willing to die on? Maybe find out why your son feels so strongly about it. Could his other grandmother be granny? Did she get to choose?

Nonplusultra · 23/01/2024 12:41

I cannot fathom telling another adult what to call themselves. I have known a few grandmothers who ended up with nicknames that their gc gave them but I think your ds is over stepping.

SweetBirdsong · 23/01/2024 12:41

notthatthis · 23/01/2024 12:21

What's wrong with that? Loads of people use foreign names.
I've seen lots of Niamh's for example who aren't Irish. I say let Nonna choose what she wants.

Exactly. See also Chantelle, Siobhan, Hansel, Ezra, Marisa, Ingrid, Niles, Isabella etc etc etc. LOADS of parents give their child non UK names, when they have NO connection to the country the name originated from! (And yes I do know a the young people (under 30) with all of those names.

ffsthisisntbullying · 23/01/2024 12:42

@Moira1951 I mean this with absolute kindness and gentleness- have you told them how you feel with regards to you'd love to see them more and develop a relationship with them both? I wonder if there's an element of standoffishness on either (or possibly both) sides because of miscommunication somewhere along the line. I hope this new baby can bring you all back together over time. Perhaps this is an opportunity to begin those conversations and start making time together. But tread carefully or it may come across as woe is me which is not the message you're trying to get across. Wishing you the best OP, truly.

SaladFingerz · 23/01/2024 12:42

What about being called " lovey " instead?

Works for Kris Jenner? 🤷🏻‍♀️🤣

Mirabai · 23/01/2024 12:43

FlissyPaps · 23/01/2024 12:39

Wanting to be called “Nonna” is hardly learning another language is it 😂

The OP even admitted she didn’t know it was the Italian word for Grandmother.

No she didn’t.

Moira1951 · 23/01/2024 12:43

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 23/01/2024 12:36

She doesn't seem to want to expand further on that, so I'm not sure why she's included it.

I’m not here to write a family history so I won’t be elaborating, but friends know, and think it’s very unfair. Anyway my purpose was to get tge viewpoint of others and it seems 50/50 on what I should be called. I will compromise as I always do, resolution and solution!

OP posts:
Itwasafterallallaboutme · 23/01/2024 12:45

Bluedabidee · 23/01/2024 10:34

That's the other thing if you have no italian connection/don't speak it, if you think it's similar to Nana then you might not realise the difference in pronunciation which would make it very obvious you're not italian. It's not pronounced noh-nah like nah-nah for nana, but non-nah. I get why your son might not want to use it.

Nana is pronounced nan na(h if you must), I have no idea where nah nah comes into it?!

mummylove24 · 23/01/2024 12:46

I asked my parents (first time grandparents 🥹) what they wanted to be called, English Grandma, Nan, Grandad or their native language equivalent, it’s up to them 💖

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 23/01/2024 12:46

trippily · 23/01/2024 10:05

No it's not up to you to pick yourself a cutsie nickname. I think you would have mentioned if you were Italian. Don't cause conflict with your son at this exciting time for him by trying to seize control.

Surely it's her own name
Though! She's allowed some say?!

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 23/01/2024 12:47

Gently OP, their friends probably know also and side with them. There will be three sides to this story, with the facts lying somewhere in the middle.

Anyway, I hope this is resolved soon, and that you can get your relationship back on track.

IggOrEgg · 23/01/2024 12:48

I can see why this is a bit irritating but given the resentful tone of your posts, and the fact it’s clear there’s other issues at play here, this simply isn’t a hill I’d choose to die upon. Ultimately it’ll be up to your son and his wife anyway as they’ll do the referring-to (let’s go to granny’s, oh look there’s granny, etc) so this isn’t a battle you can win, frankly. Names tend to evolve naturally anyway, once baby is here. My MIL started off as Nana (which to be fair, she chose. I asked them all what they wanted to be known as), which my son has changed (by himself) to Nannie, then Nan-nan and I expect it’ll change again in time.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 23/01/2024 12:48

Moira1951 · 23/01/2024 12:37

BTW I don’t overstep, I hardly see them, not even once a month! I only ever see DIL with my son despite trying to cultivate a relationship with her. She’s not interested, but polite. I don’t have a daughter, I’d love to have her as a friend but after seven years I can see it won’t happen. Often when I do see them, it’s because I’ve suggested a pub lunch or invited them over. I’m a widow and would love to see them more!

This sounds such a shame. I know you've said that your son has his pressures, and I think it does happen in life that people get married and become 'too busy' with work etc. I can't imagine not seeing my Mum most days, I don't know if it's more of a son thing.

As a PP has just said, I hope the new baby can help bring you all together.

MassiveOvaryaction · 23/01/2024 12:48

Nonna with no Italian connection is pretentious imo. What did you call your grandparents? What do your dc call theirs?

Namechangeforname · 23/01/2024 12:48

My mum is Nonna but she is half Italian. I think it’s really odd if you have no Italian connection sorry!
But yes agree it’s up to you what they call you

muddyford · 23/01/2024 12:49

Itwasafterallallaboutme · 23/01/2024 12:45

Nana is pronounced nan na(h if you must), I have no idea where nah nah comes into it?!

Nah nah is the dog in Peter Pan... But I agree, definitely Nan-eh.

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