To think he’s choosing to be homeless and it’s right that he doesn’t get a housing association property?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-68033982

Man works 50hrs a week. At minimum wage that’s 27k and about £1900 take-home each month. He sleeps at friends’ houses or his ex-partner’s, presumably for free. Why can’t he just get a room in a house share (under £600 a month in Glasgow) and save up a deposit for a flat?

Yes thats right. Where did I say it wasnt?

Don't know the situation in that area but down south you may be able to afford rent but landlords want min 6 months in advance, guarantors, and accept higher 'bids' for even the lowest standard rent of room/ share/ bedsit/ flats.

@soupfiend This is your post from page 3

I largely agree with what you've been saying except that in my view, there is the money to embark on a mass building of social housing and that housing should be for people who cant afford or cant access (for all sorts of reasons) the private rental market and ownership

Just like in the 50s

There is no political will for it, thats all

It WASNT like that in the 50s It was available to anyone who wanted it

You sound unbelievably judgemental. It says in the article his brother was also homeless so he clearly doesn’t have the family safety net mang of us take for granted.

The state of housing should be constantly at the top of the news agenda, in my opinion. It’s a national disgrace & i imagine the aim of articles like this is to try & humanise the problem.

Just looking on spareroom.com in the city centre, there are 55 rooms if you specify professionals, which seems to weed out student only accommodation. They hover around the 700pcm mark

They include bills, he wouldnt have council tax to pay in an HMO

Not great, but doable. He can save for a deposit if he is not currently paying rent because he is sofa surfing.

Might be cheaper further out of Glasgow, not sure where he works

Yes it was. Where have I said it wasnt?

But there's so many other people who are contributing who have children or people who aren't but are vulnerable (disabled, unwell).

And where would that get him? He won't be housed because he's on benefits.

IT WAS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE WHETHER THEY COULD AFFORD THE ALTERNATIVES OR NOT

My 45 year old autistic son is currently unemployed, homeless and sleeping in the back of his van. He's in the south-east. He was in a flat but his landlord is selling up and evicted him. His former flat was the cheapest in the area (I checked) and comparable places are 25-30% more. He's behind on his council tax, has no credit score, and can't even find a room in a house share because of a) no job and b) no credit. Can he get on the list for council housing? Can he heck as like. He's staying cheerful at the moment, and haunting the public library to apply for jobs and charge his phone. He gets UC and PIP and if he could get a room in a shared house could just about afford that. The housing situation is just dire. I don't live in the UK and he wouldn't be allowed to come and live with me for anything more than a holiday.

Private renting is nigh on impossible
Landlords want a deposit, a homeowner guarantor earning over £45k per year
These HMO’s are also often used by the councils for homeless people, some with personal issues.
Why are people more annoyed that someone maybe does not want to live in a HMO, paying £800 for one room and shared facilities, than the fact the government have refused to build affordable housing and allowed greedy private landlords and their mortgage providers to terrorise the rental market and make even having a home absolutely impossible

What has being a man got to do with it? Would a woman get more sympathy?

Question for you all. If you were the ex would you be happy with him taking the kid to the HMO?

I agree with you, OP. Something doesn't add up! How can a single man, working 50h a week not find shared accommodation? Even in London this would be possible.

Absolutely not. I don’t get why people are so hell bent on people living in HMO’s. I wouldn’t live with strangers and I sure as hell wouldn’t want my kid in a house with a load of them

NO. Since 1998 there have been three tenants in the flat below me. All male No single women because the system always assumes a woman will find a boyfriend to move in with

(i moved in as part of a couple Still am)

I don't think the 50s was the same everywhere. In my city my parents couldn't get a council property in the 50s. They had me and my sibling in cots in their room at my grans house. Gran slept on a sofa and aunt and uncle shared the other bedroom. They were told they weren't a priority as they had a roof over their heads.

Well why do people keep on about a man being homeless, I don't think it makes any difference. It is a terrible situation for any adult to be in.

Most people who take a lodger want a woman. Very few for young men.

To be fair many of the objections are reasonable. Building 2000 homes on a floodplain without adding schools/doctors/shops/public transport/etc where none of them are actually affordable for locals (unless it's a microscopic sized home with an unusable tiny back garden) isn't really what the country needs.

Flats near public transport/other amenities with a decent amount of greenery around them could be very good, but noone apparently likes doing maintenance to places like this.

What a mean post.

Everyone has a human right to shelter. Just because it's become so monetised doesn't make it in any way acceptable for anyone to be homeless.

Of course someone working full-time should be able to afford a home.

Stop buying into Tory claptrap and try to muster a little humanity.

Landlords wanting guarantors. The family next to me between them earn much more than this man and had problems getting a landlord to take them without a guarantor.

Here is another one for the OP and others to salivate over

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/teacher-forced-sleep-car-describes-31928234?fbclid=IwAR1xtIZRME1anMOPgUxRpoBOg1mQ5SoDDfQOizjyx0G-qDY7rK4kL8zwW_E

There are hundreds of thousands of people living in house-shares. I’d bet 95% of them aren’t there because they love communal living. They’re there because it’s what they can afford.

Finding them isn't the issue, as has been explained on here many times, getting to stay in one for many of those reasons is what is difficult.