To think there shouldn't be measles outbreaks?

[fatandhappy47]

Surely we shouldn't be having an issue with measles?
Had an email from school (secondary) 'reminding' us to keep kids off with measles, which got me thinking

All my kids band my friends kids of the same age had their MMR (however my youngest did get measles before this)

So why is it an issue in secondary schools of all places? Are people just not vaccinating their kids?

Yes i think so. sorry I'm not sure I put my thoughts across well in my initial post.

The MMR was introduced in 1988. People really need to check there vaccine status.

Utter piffle. My bro got Covid in 2020 pre vaccine. 5 weeks of pains , exhaustion and raging fevers. Still gets racing heart after modest exercise nearly 4 years later. I got it post vaccine in August 21. Dry cough , dull headache lasted about a week . The End.

What is an MMR victim?!

They believe the grifters on YouTube and other channels who are making a fortune out of misinformation. It's big business.

Umm no , it can affect other children , young babies and pregnant mothers as those with low immunity. So it’s not just in them

Similar age to you. Remember friends unwell with measles, so seriously they were unwell in isolation units. My 7th birthday party was cancelled as more than half my glass had mumps, the school photographer had to come back to redo the class photo. I think people have forgotten/have no idea how bad it as. I read an interesting hypothesis that people are more well and fitter into old age now because they don’t fight off several serious childhood illnesses anymore due to vaccination. Which makes a lot of sense to me.

Yes it is on them. They decide they don't care about those people then they have to live with that choice when others around them die.

We can't force vaccination.

They have this rule in Jamaica and possibly other countries in the Caribbean. No entry to school without it.

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OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · Today 07:40

Part of me wants us to bring in a rule that you can't enrol at a nursery or school without proof of vaccine or an exemption certificate from a medical professional if you can't have the vaccine for a medical reason. But then I think these kids are already being failed by feckless, stupid parents and they probably need nursery and school to give them any hope in life.

It's definitely a hangover from the Wakefield stuff. I had my first baby in early 2003 and the "MMR causes Autism" scare was at its peak. So many people I knew just didn't bother, or had one and not the pre-school booster, or had separate vaccinations missing some out.

Wakefield is a very dangerous man and this outbreak scare is a direct consequence of his "research",

France too. MMR was added to the list of vaccines required to access state schools for children born after 2018.

Sadly some people didn't, and some still don't, vaccinate their children.
Because it is less common to see measles these days some adults have no idea how dangerous some of these childhood diseases can be.
This.

The same people seem to ignore the fact that their child "being fine" is usually because there's enough children who are vaccinated. It's not because these illnesses are minor or not an issue and not worth vaccinating against.

For the children who cannot have certain vaccines for medical reasons, herd immunity keeps them safer.

When enough people decide they don't care and can't be bothered, it affects more than just their family

Thanks Andrew Wakefield <slow handclap>

when I took my eldest nearly 18 for his MMR the nurse said Andrew Wakefield should be lined up against a wall and shot for the harm he’s caused

It does predate covid but it has got worse since due to so many grifters making a fortune out of conspiracy theories on YouTube and social media.

The take up of measles vaccination decreased long before the pandemic, the MMR and now debunked link with Autism was the start of it.
Measles is an awful disease, it can cause brain damage, deafness, blindness and death.

My eldest is 15 and although Andrew Wakefield had been discredited by 2008 when she had her mmr vaccine, I quizzed the nurse and was still anxious about it, unsure what to believe. For context, I’m not a naturally anxious person. Dd was vaccinated but I know many children her age who weren’t. I don’t think these parents are scum, they’re poorly educated, anxious parents trying to do what’s right.

To be fair, in my generation only girls got rubella jabs, and we had them age 13 or so. The NHS apparently thought at that time that the risk of rubella to men and young girls was not worth the cost preventing and the dominant risk was seen as birth defects.

People who don't vaccinate their DC are selfish morons.

There are decades and decades worth of research and fact yet 15% of people still believe that they know better and choose to believe proven fraudsters like Andrew Wakefield and his ilk.

Worth knowing that unless contraindicated (it's a live vaccine), anyone of any age who hasn't got two documented doses of MMR vaccine can get them at the GP's for free.
Regardless of previous infection.

This is a superb summary of how we got into this pickle.

Please bookmark and share at very opportuntiy, as I do.

https://darryl-cunningham.blogspot.com/2010/05/facts-in-case-of-dr-andrew-wakefield.html

There have been several 'catch up' sessions over the years for MMR for those who either missed out or, if not, got boosted. It was usually when there was a higher incidence around of one of the three. So anyone born in the 1980s onwards would have been offered several chances, usually at school or via gp.

I've lost count of how many my two ended up having so they'd be pretty unlucky to get any now. They were also encouraged to have a booster before going to university but I'm not sure if that's the case now.

DS2 was one of the first to receive it in October 1988 when he was 16 months. As his 3 yr old brother was also present the gp said he might as well have it too. He'd already had the single measles shot. Why wouldn't you want to protect your child?

A warning to the anti vaxxers.

Children grow up into adults with their own ability to research, analyse and critically form opinions, based on research, science and facts.

I wasn’t protected and I’m very angry at my parents. You’re making a serious decision about their health, which could have stark consequences and at best they may not agree with you. At worst, they may see it as neglectful and this can impact your relationship.

The single measles vaccine was introduced in the U.K. in 1968so very likely you had that!

You are misinformed. The Covid vaccine was highly effective and evidence of saving a significant number of lives.