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Would you have a baby at 50?

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pumpkinpatch6 · 16/01/2024 01:01

Off the back of the "Do you regret having a baby at 40" thread, would you have a child at 50 assuming you can provide for it emotionally and financially? Obviously medical assistance would be needed.

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Coyoteuglyisonagain · 16/01/2024 16:24

@fromhellsheartistabatthee It would be better if they could though

Newchapterbeckons · 16/01/2024 16:25

emilysquest · 16/01/2024 15:40

You can adequately provide for a child financially without requiring an army of Nannies et al. You said you/others should go ahead with a baby after 50 without checking your privilege and own life experience. You haven’t even reached early adulthood or life stage with one child yet, so I am wondering how you would even know how it feels?

I hope you are damn well more self aware in RL than you are on here, because surely that it is a pre requisite for your role. I work in a similar field, and I find my work very humbling. Money though does not and never will equal good parenting. Some of the best parents I have ever met were those without huge amounts of resources and support.

Oh give over. I never had "armies" of nannies, how emotive! Like many children my son has had a number of carers/tutors over his 14 years, to augment family care and educational arrangements.

You make assumptions. I have in fact twice "reached adult life stage", my stepdaughters are in their late 20s/early 30s now, and DH and I together brought them both up from childhood. They are now high-achieving professional women (one has just qualified as a doctor) and we are a close family.

You have no idea what I do and do not need money for (I have no intention of discussing my financial circumstances in detail, but they are complicated), but don't assume that I have pursued my career only for financial reasons. Very far from it. But for me to achieve in it some childcare was necessary, of course, and that has to budgeted for and paid. Not exactly an unusual situation.

I never said you cannot be a good parent without lots of money. I said that my parenting decisions (and my age) did not make me a bad parent, it's a very different thing.

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Being a step parent is nothing like the same. You are not responsible ultimately for them beyond being kind and supportive.

Pushkinini · 16/01/2024 16:26

As a first child, maybe. If I'd already had DC, then no way.

Desecratedcoconut · 16/01/2024 16:29

Moreorlessmentallystable · 16/01/2024 16:18

Because dealing with the loss of a parent or in my case, for example being responsible financially for an ill parent is extremely hard when you have little kids to support too. If this happens when your kids have left the nest you'll have both more time and financial resources.

Yes, I lost a parent during the baby days and I could barely see straight during the last few months of illness and the many months after between the grief, being up all night, breastfeeding, comforting my dm and my children, helping with the funeral arrangements. My Dad had us fairly young and sadly died young though. I'd take all that over losing a parent as a child. Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

SingleMum11 · 16/01/2024 16:32

alltootired · 16/01/2024 15:11

I certainly do not slap old men on the back having babies. They are too old. But at least it is the young woman who is often the mother who will be doing most of the actual childcare.

This if for me the double standards in a nutshell.

’As long as the woman is young…’

A man suffers absolutely zero judgement at age 50. Even late 50s there isn’t much judgement for a man. Yet if men are so crucial as fathers to a child’s upbringing, then it is both parents who matter.

Really I do think there is something misogynistic underlying the judgement of mothers at 50. There is a kind of disgust and revulsion. It’s like women over a certain age are supposed to fall into the background, not be attractive, certainly not be fertile, accept their husband might swap them for a younger fertile woman, but not dare to claim any of that ground herself.

LadyBird1973 · 16/01/2024 16:34

If I wanted one, then yes I would. Lots of women feel great at 50, are fit and healthy, financially better off than when younger and come from families with a history of living into their 90s! This is such a personal thing and no woman should be shamed for wanting and choosing motherhood, when she is in a position to love and care for any resulting child.

I wouldn't choose it in my circumstances since I already have 4 children and I feel done now, but if I'd not been able to have children earlier, then yes.

@fluffyduvetcover I'm so sorry about your son. To lose a child is truly the most awful thing that can happen to a person Flowers

dorry678 · 16/01/2024 16:36

@MotherofGorgons

Wow, well that's fine for you then. I guess some people would prefer to outsource day to day parenting, even when they could do it themselves and had no financial need for a job.

That's not me though. I loved being a mum.

Tandora · 16/01/2024 16:37

A thread obviously designed to evoke fertility privilege and shame older mums. 🙄👏🏻

Desecratedcoconut · 16/01/2024 16:40

God, is this the new way to be a victim...having kids in your 50s?

Sugarfish · 16/01/2024 16:41

gloriagloria · 16/01/2024 15:39

Really? To the point where you wish you'd never been born (which is usually the alternative when it comes to older parents - it isn't a lifestyle choice for many)? It's heartbreaking losing a parent at any age so what makes you think it would be so much better when you are 40s or 50s?

Honestly yeah sometimes when it makes me really sad. And the new year always makes me think about it more, we’ve also had a death in the family recently so maybe I’m just feeling over emotional about it at the moment. I have older siblings so for my parents it wasn’t a lifestyle choice or a struggle to conceive, it was because they just wanted another baby. They both have health issues and of course I am more than willing to help them, but I can’t help but compare myself to my friends who can enjoy their time with their parents whilst knowing they probably have another 30 odd years with them. It just doesn’t feel like it’s something I should be worrying about now. I know there is no guarantee and people can die at any age. But for me, based on my experience and feelings, I would not have a baby at 50.

alltootired · 16/01/2024 17:02

@SingleMum11 I judge older fathers as well. But it is not sexist to say in cases where you have an older man and young woman having a baby, it will be the mother doing the childcare.
Fathers matter? In an ideal world. But honestly too many fathers do not do much, especially older ones.
And the rest of your comment is just barmy. I am in my fifties and do not think I am ready to be put out to pasture.

Tandora · 16/01/2024 17:04

SingleMum11 · 16/01/2024 16:32

This if for me the double standards in a nutshell.

’As long as the woman is young…’

A man suffers absolutely zero judgement at age 50. Even late 50s there isn’t much judgement for a man. Yet if men are so crucial as fathers to a child’s upbringing, then it is both parents who matter.

Really I do think there is something misogynistic underlying the judgement of mothers at 50. There is a kind of disgust and revulsion. It’s like women over a certain age are supposed to fall into the background, not be attractive, certainly not be fertile, accept their husband might swap them for a younger fertile woman, but not dare to claim any of that ground herself.

100,000% this.

Rosinda · 16/01/2024 17:07

*’As long as the woman is young…’
*
If a woman of 50 was partnered with a 30yo, sure, but how often do couples like this have babies? It's much more common with the man being the older spouse.

Rosinda · 16/01/2024 17:09

Also, I'd say that accepting 50 is perhaps 'too old' to have a baby doesn't imply any of the other things like being unattractive or being cheated on...

Most women of 50 aren't, but they can still be attractive and be in secure relationships

Snowdogsmitten · 16/01/2024 17:09

dorry678 · 16/01/2024 15:45

@MotherofGorgons If that's aimed at me...it hasn't, everyone has to make their own choices, that might be financial or it might be for sanity.

But choosing to pay someone when you don't have to? why have children if you don't want to look after them?

I was very privileged in not needing to work, but I didn't and don't have an opinion on what others do. I can't imagine many people who had the funds to stop work, would think, oh no, I'd prefer to pay someone else to do this...can you?

You literally had an opinion in the paragraph above 😂

You presumably had a husband to pay for you so you could stay at home. Plenty of us don’t have that, or in my case, couldn’t think of anything worse than being home all day and financially dependent.

pumpkinpatch6 · 16/01/2024 17:10

tigerrabbit · 16/01/2024 03:34

What about YOU OP? We haven’t heard your thoughts yet 🤔

Ok, so, didn't expect so many responses. Lol! I have adult children. Was in an abusive marriage for years then left when my oldest was around 9. After that I brought them up on my own. It was very difficult in many ways, but I just want to clarify, I have never regretted them for a second, just wish life had worked differently, for them mostly. I loved being a mum. Years later I met a lovely man, everything I had hoped for, (mostly, lol) kind, loving, respectful, and after being together for a couple of years we tried to get pregnant, I was in my 40's by this point. Tried for years and it didn't happen so around 48 I decided to give up. But it just doesn't go away. It's always there. And when I see celebrities having babies at my age I think, well if it's ok for them, why's it not ok for me?

I have a grandchild who I love the bones of but it's different. I should add that I would never, ever expect any child to provide care for me in old age. Ever. So I guess I posted just to see others opinions, if there was many of us out there. Seems not! Lol!

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alltootired · 16/01/2024 17:11

Fine - as long as the main caregiver parent is young.
99.9% that will be the mum.
I still think old dads should not have had a child, but at least the child has their main caregiver to live a decent number of years.

People like to pretend that most mums and dads do the same amount. In reality it is the mums who do the hard grind of childcare nearly all the time.

dorry678 · 16/01/2024 17:13

@Snowdogsmitten No, actually I made all my own money. I was a bit lucky back in the day, so no need to work now.

Can't see an opinion in the paragraph above?? do you mean who would work if you had lots of money and didn't need to?
Well who would? I honestly can't imagine preferring to send my child to paid care.

pumpkinpatch6 · 16/01/2024 17:14

VeganFromSveden · 16/01/2024 03:52

Not read all of the comments.
It would very much depend on the circumstances surrounding the person wishing to become pregnant.
When I'd been in my current relationship for a few years, I was still late 40's.
My darling love is a good deal younger, and so, if we could've made a child between us, we would've done, as we both felt that he could be the main care provider, as maybe I might not have been fit enough to take the main tasks on.
It's a mute point, coz we were not successful, but we felt we had probably put more thought into that proposed baby, than either of us had in the children we had both parented in our earlier years.
I see that I'm not like the majority of folks responding, and that's cool, coz it's all subjective, personal and circumstantial.
It's maddening tho' coz amazingly, I don't just feel fitter 20 + years on, I can show that I am physically fitter and stronger, due to a complete change in lifestyle, and the exemplary support I receive from my partner.
We both believe we would've made good parents again, second time around due to the life's lessons learnt along the way.
If OP, you are contemplating pregnancy at a later than average age, please don't stint on researching every possible aspect, not just of your current situation, but as other pp have said, what about all the future challenging stages, and what if you suffer ill health in the future, and or someone your close to (that is central to bringing up the child) has a misfortune.
If you find it's still the right decision after everything, then that's all you can do.
Even younger mums can't predict how they'll cope with pregnancy and the birth and all that follows.
Good luck, and I hope you make a decision you will always be happy with.

Thank you for this post 😊

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SingleMum11 · 16/01/2024 17:15

alltootired · 16/01/2024 17:02

@SingleMum11 I judge older fathers as well. But it is not sexist to say in cases where you have an older man and young woman having a baby, it will be the mother doing the childcare.
Fathers matter? In an ideal world. But honestly too many fathers do not do much, especially older ones.
And the rest of your comment is just barmy. I am in my fifties and do not think I am ready to be put out to pasture.

I do get that you are saying women do most of the child upbringing. But I do think you miss that what you are saying it misogynistic, it lets men off the hook.

You would not judge a man at age 50 but would judge a woman. You wouldn’t judge a man because even though they want to claim the role of father and parent, they wouldn’t really do much parenting. I agree with you many men are a bit lazy, many woman are the main care givers. BUT I wouldn’t use this inequality to further put down a woman age 50 having a child, more than a man.

emilysquest · 16/01/2024 17:16

@Newchapterbeckons I am not going to go into my circumstances but I was absolutely responsible for them, including financially, emotionally and in every other way.

SingleMum11 · 16/01/2024 17:16

alltootired · 16/01/2024 17:11

Fine - as long as the main caregiver parent is young.
99.9% that will be the mum.
I still think old dads should not have had a child, but at least the child has their main caregiver to live a decent number of years.

People like to pretend that most mums and dads do the same amount. In reality it is the mums who do the hard grind of childcare nearly all the time.

Which if you follow this logic, we should be supporting any woman age 50 having a child. She is the main caregiver, so it’s up to her, her decision, her responsibility in the main.

pumpkinpatch6 · 16/01/2024 17:20

Globules · 16/01/2024 06:33

Er, no.

😂😂

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alltootired · 16/01/2024 17:21

@SingleMum11 it is not fair on the child.
I mean people can have children without my permission. But I would judge them.
Having a baby is fine at 50, having teenagers in your sixties is a different ball game. The generation gap is too large and the risk of ill health or death young is too high.

If a woman naturally has a baby at 50 the chances are she will live a long life expectancy. But the numbers of women who do this naturally are in single figures each year. Women over fifty who are mothers have nearly always had fertility treatment, often with a donated egg. That is because their bodies are no longer young enough to have a baby naturally.

Snowdogsmitten · 16/01/2024 17:22

dorry678 · 16/01/2024 17:13

@Snowdogsmitten No, actually I made all my own money. I was a bit lucky back in the day, so no need to work now.

Can't see an opinion in the paragraph above?? do you mean who would work if you had lots of money and didn't need to?
Well who would? I honestly can't imagine preferring to send my child to paid care.

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Sure.

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