Anyone else see the BBC news report *MNHQ amending title to warn of graphic content*

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BBC reported a trial of men who had cut off body parts of other men.

One gave consent to having his penis and testicles cut off. Another his nipple and yet another his leg.

AIBU to wonder who is standing next to you in a queue in the post office?

I know it's not 'woke,' but I don't agree with surgeries to make someone neither a man or a woman. Some people 'identify' that way and so for instance they just want their breasts removed or whatever. I know doctors aren't 100% in control of how patients use the service, and if someone has some surgery rather than all, it's probably better in some ways, but still, it feels like making monsters.

Vanishingly few men lose their penis in accidents/in wars or explosions. Some obviously lose their penis on purpose. But generally they need reconstruction or catheter.

Unless you mean lots of women who do not have a penis to lose therefore yes, lots of "people" pee without a penis?

Which type of life changing decisions? And what age were the children making the decisions?

Fucking hell. This is chilling.

Decisions around education providers (going to a single sex school when the pupil is the opposite sex and nobody questioning what happens when the Year 7 female child inevitably gets a period and how the hell are they meant to change their sanitary products in a school full of boys toilets), medications to stop the onset of puberty and periods being given to 12 year olds, keeping the actual sex of a child private and not telling the parents of the teenage girls who are friends with their child that the said child actually still has a penis and allowing sleepovers without this information being disclosed), allowing Year 7 males to happily get their first girlfriend and these boys having no clue that their first girlfriend still has a penis, ignoring offers of neurodiversity assessment as 'we know our child has gender dysphoria so it isn't needed', asking children as young as 6 to re gender their classmate and repeatedly telling them off if they accidentally revert to the old gender. Don't even get me started on the bonkers uniform decisions and how there was always, always a mother in the background of this with (in my non psychiatry trained opinion) with significant mental health issues.

I would bring up my concerns about the long term impacts of this on not only the individual children, but on the often whole year groups of children who were interacting with these children who had made a massive life changing decision and were expected to go along with it all and deal with it. I (stupidly) though that it might be a good idea to suggest the adults to lead on this and make the big decisions instead of leaving it in the hands of kids who are going through the hormonal and cognitive firestorm that is childhood and puberty. I was firmly told to be quiet. So I left that line of work as I thought I have either got this wrong and I am letting my unconscious bias come to the table or I am going to be part of a system that enables something that will be seen as a scandal in a couple of decades.

It's illegal to strangle someone to the point of death even if they agreed to be 'choked' in sex.

Yes. Surgeons etc here are doing it obliquely too. The aim is usually to relieve the person of their 'gender dysphoria,' so if the person's dysphoria is relieved to the person's satisfaction by just having their boobs removed then the system is happy to leave them like that. I suppose doctors aren't in control of whether someone goes further or not, and anyway if the person supposedly no longer has an issue, the doctors' job is done. Sometimes it's where the person planned to stop all along. I think it's unnerving though. Which probably shows I'm not a right on millenial/zoomer.

People are also choosing to have their nipples removed sometimes, because they're 'dysphoric' about them, when both sexes have nipples.

Which type of life changing decisions? And what age were the children making the decisions?

Primarily if children go on puberty blockers maybe. Those aren't without side/long term effects. Also once a child's on that, they are effectively on course for later body-changing hormones. That path rarely changes. So they're effectively making the decision to transition when they're quite young.

I can absolutely relate to this

I saw a video by someone that worked in a clinic in the states that could no longer work there as it went straight to surgery without counselling with the 'affirmation' model. She said the last straw was after a young woman had a double mastectomy (she called it top surgery but we know what it really is) and came back a few months later saying she wanted them back. The child has no understanding of long term consequences.
I used to read Bizarre and there was a whole community of people that had a fetish of limb removal and one cover had a woman with a wooden leg on who'd had a voluntary leg amputation. This was about the 90's