Anyone else see the BBC news report *MNHQ amending title to warn of graphic content*

[Ownedbykitties]

BBC reported a trial of men who had cut off body parts of other men.

One gave consent to having his penis and testicles cut off. Another his nipple and yet another his leg.

AIBU to wonder who is standing next to you in a queue in the post office?

I saw it and thought it was one of the most sick things I’d ever read. Agree with pp that as you get older you realise the spectrum of people is vast and that so many men are sick/violent/perverted.

Nothing surprises me about men these days.

This.

what an incredible generalisation.
You do realise that this is hardly a mainstream pursuit?

Isn’t it.

Wait what?

runs to google

Worse than a generalisation, its unhinged. "Men are fucking sickos"... in response to a one in ten million case?

That nurse (Letby) who killed babies who was prosecuted last year, the second high profile case in the UK of a female nurse killing babies..."women are fucking sick".

The disturbing thing is the person you responded to isn't alone, there are plenty of them on here.

There was a documentary about it. Apparently the guy who answered the ad wanted to also eat his own penis but in the end he couldn't because it was too tough, so the guy who cut it off fried it for him but then it was too burnt. Then he died and the dog had it.

For real?? Poor doggy.

Follow on from my last post about "women being sick" (as a ludicrous comparison), Letby (and the previous high profile female nurse who killed babies) are by no means a modern issue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide#Great_Britain

By the middle of the 19th century infanticide was common for social reasons, such as illegitimacy, and the introduction of child life insurance additionally encouraged some women to kill their children for gain. Examples include Mary Ann Cotton, who murdered many of her 15 children as well as three husbands; Margaret Waters, the 'Brixton Baby Farmer', a professional baby-farmer who was found guilty of infanticide in 1870; Jessie King, who was hanged in 1889; Amelia Dyer, the 'Angel Maker', who murdered over 400 babies in her care; and Ada Chard-Williams, a baby farmer who was later hanged at Newgate prison.

Amelia Dyer:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Amelia_dyer1893.jpg

Trained as a nurse and widowed in 1869, Dyer turned to baby farming—the practice of adopting unwanted infants in exchange for money—to support herself. She began directly murdering children she "adopted", strangling at least some of them, and disposing of the bodies to avoid attention. At the time of her death, a handful of murders were attributed to Dyer, but there is little doubt she was responsible for many more similar deaths—up to 400 (or possibly more), making her a candidate for history's most prolific serial killer.

Dyer's case led to stricter laws for adoption and child protection, and helped raise the profile of the fledgling National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC), which formed in 1884.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Dyer

Why is this a problem if the man wanted his testicles and penis removed? Surely he has that right. Especially as he’s an adult.

@JanglingJack

You say in your post

"It's not just men who are weird "

That classic 👌 line, !

that kind of attitude,

💯 epitomises it seems to Conviently excuses normal men,
who Don't commit henious sexual perversion crimes,
from noticing 🤔 turning the classic blind 👁eye or calling out behaviour that is misogynistic or problomatic inappropriate behaviour in our society for what it really is, and allways has been too, !

Totally Unacceptable

Well just say 🤷 that in Comparison to women,
the statistics on balance are way too overwhelming of the weird deviancy perversions of the male species...

Yes women can be weird but it's usaully a different type of weirdness to male deviancy weirdness,

It's still percieved as a rarity for a women to commit emulate sexual deviancy type of crimes,
Compared to male species,

It certainly is not in your favour according to your post @JanglingJack

That's the reality of the case isn't it.!

of course there 🙄 are women who commit heinous crimes quite often alongside men in relantships such as Rose West and Maria Hindly ect,

Thankfully nefarious crimes such these are rare..

It’s absolutely sick and I will never understand why people do this.

However it’s not a new concept- the Romans had Eunuchs, they were highly regarded and it was aspirational for a family to make their handsome boy into a eunuch. There were schools for them! They were recruited by wealthy families as they gave them status and some eunuchs became quite powerful and famous figures.

@Togomalone

That sounds intriguing in a weird way 🤔 your post,

Thanks for your insightful post in a different way too...

I love ❤️ watching ancient history tv programmes too
really get into them,

I've heard a bit about the eunuchs in China 🇨🇳 imperial Palace the last Dynasty before their was civil arrest and over throw of this elitist system to make way for communism...

Famous film with Peter o Toole

This is what i like most about mumsnet threads such as this as they can be quite often illuminating and enlightening intriguing,
as long as nobody tries to attempts to report to mumsnet powers to be, !

to ban a mumsnet op post thread as being too weird or and Controversial and problematic in nature ect..

I remember seeing that. In a very pretty medieval looking town there in Germany. I was on the tube with my then boyfriend who was quite unshockable, we read about it in the Metro and he said after reading it he felt physically sick.

Maybe, but you can't claim women are exempt from awful behaviour. Look at the women who get involved in abusing children.

@cerisepanther73 there’s an episode all about eunuchs on the Betwixt the sheets podcast- it really is fascinating. The key difference with this case is that they were castrated before completing puberty, rather than as adults. It was a way for normal families to enter the upper echelons of society.

Fucking yes.

It’s been front page and top “most read” on the BBC twice this week.

One of those what the hell did I just read moments.

BBC article said they filmed it & uploaded it to a particular site. Eww.

I'm not sure what your point is. Castration of males for non medical purposes has been going on for thousands of years. Its hardly a modern practice either.

He made £200K live streaming it. So people PAID to watch him be mutilated.

He is now, eunuch is under the trans umbrella.

Which of these cases is about sick behaviour for sexual gratification?

This happened in a neighbouring street to me. Neighbours of the defendant came onto a local area forum to say the police had been at the address multiple times pre arrest... Although tbh, regular police visits don't signify much locally and are rarely remarked on.

I remember the first rumors and reports before the case had to go quiet whilst being investigated. It did all seem very dark, yes. I think there was some kind of eunuch thing going on? Which is a thing (apparently)...

Something has gone seriously wrong in their heads for them to think this was a good idea. Who the hell subscribes to watch that too?!

The ringleader is also charged with indecent images and harm to a child according to another report. I hope they refuse his disability benefits when released as he self inflicted the amputation

You're so right. It needs to be raised to the judiciary as setting that precedent.