Sick of Dds teacher

[Someonepaintmyhouseplease]

Dd is 5 and in Pre school (we’re abroad)
She started to not want to go in, in October, she said the teacher was shouting at the children for not doing the work properly etc (I posted on here) I went in several times, plus Dh too.
The teacher said she didn’t shout etc etc, things got better.
This week, she’s been crying again at bedtime and this morning was crying not to go in again, I ended up getting out of her (eventually) that the teacher has been shouting at her (and others) if she puts her name in the wrong place on the paper 🤷🏻‍♀️apparently she shouts ‘Not there, over here!’
Dd was also upset as she says one of the boys in her class (one of her friends) is always shouted at to sit still and stop playing. I’ve seen this boy, he’s very sweet, but younger and obviously full of energy. I understand he has to learn to try to sit and not play during lessons and so on, but Dd says he cries and cries and his face goes red.
So sick and tired of going in to complain and nothing being done.
Dd finishes with this teacher at the end of June, but we want to stay in the school and have to re register to move up to the next part of school. I don’t want to take her out and put the chance of this in jeopardy, but equally I can’t put my Dd in this situation all the time.
This is not merely a teacher bashing thread, I’m a teacher myself and would
never get cross and shout it a 5 year old put their name in the *Wrong place on a paper!
What else can I do? I also need to work part time, so need to have Dd in Pre school
She adores her friends there, is very well liked, loves the teaching assistant, who she says is *Kind to her 😔

I dont know why you keep coming at me are you ok.

@doublexegg because up until your last post, you were professing you were right....

When you weren't!

You also keep coming back at me..... why?

Also - just because some children have cried does not mean the teacher has been unpleasant.

Some children dissolve in tears over fuck all. My DD was one!! She was a very angelic/cute petite toddler and her nursery key workers thought she was adorable and pandered to her, they gave her a lot of attention for bursting into tears so she learned to do it at the drop of hat. It took a lot of time and effort to break her of the habit.

No one is right we all have our own opinions.
Have a good night.

Doublexegg & kisstheblarney you've really derailed this thread, go away won't you?

I don't blame you for the way you feel, doing such an important job as well!

For some reason teachers have become scapegoats!

I think it's a massive stretch to compare saying I don't like teachers to racism.

I just find it really annoying people hounding each other online because they dislike one element of what they said. Yes it's a massive sweeping statement, but people say ridiculous things in real life all the time, and you roll your eyes and leave it.

I don't! I challenge that sort of bullshit in real life also.

I've no idea if it would be allowed or not but could you ask to observe the class for half a day, on the basis that you want to see how DD is doing in class so you can better support her at home? Suspect in the UK it wouldn't be allowed for safeguarding reasons. Otherwise could you speak privately to the headteacher about it and see if they can do something without a formal complaint?

Instead of challenging the teacher on shouting (as she will just say she doesn't) raise the issue of your DD being upset, reluctant to go to school and telling you that she, and other children, are regularly crying. Surely the teacher can't be happy with this in her classroom? Whether you tackle the teacher again or go to the headteacher, emphasise that you want your DD to enjoy her time at school. I would also gently check with the other little boy's parents how he is finding school, without giving details of what your DD has said.

You can discuss also with your DD how she can cope if she makes a mistake. Maybe how to ask if she's not sure of something. How to not distract her friend when they need to sit still and quiet, if he finds that more difficult etc

OK if you think your efforts are going to change her opinion and not derail someone else's thread, keep challenging.

shes just embarrassing her self.

@Someonepaintmyhouseplease I would take your own advice and teach her resilience and the best way to react to criticism. You could make a statement of concern to the head but as you said it may not be well received. Hopefully the remainder of the year will pass swiftly.
Do you think the boys parents would complain?

Poor OP.
No real answers or suggestions, just one mad derailer poster and posters who will not ignore the idiot.

Try and talk to other parents to establish if there is a pattern and if they are aware their little ones are becoming distressed because of the teacher. You then need to go to the Head.

@Someonepaintmyhouseplease

I think @Spomsored has given some good advice in general but I wouldn’t advise mentioning other children at all if you do speak to the teacher. Stick to discussing your own daughters issues. Only a certain type of parent mentions other people’s children during a school meeting and so it can easily give the wrong impression and turn the teacher away from listening seriously to anything else you have to say.

Are you serious? Launch a bullying campaign?

@givemushypeasachance That's victim blaming.

@AitkenDrum1970 I’m a teacher too.

You have to agree that not all teachers try their best or are meant to be in the job.

Things did change for a while after I
complained, but it seems to be slipping again. Sometimes when I pick Dd up, the teacher gives her a big hug and Dd seems surprised. I said to Dd that it’s nice that she hugs her and she obviously likes her and Dd said to me that she was only nice to her when I was there. I believe my daughter.

What an utterly ridiculous statement

Any chance we can keep it on topic please

Ridiculous is them that keep this going.

The thing is there is not a lot you can do if the culture where you are means that even if the teacher is shouting, it wouldn't be seen as wrong. How sure are you of that? Is the behaviour policy published on the school website?

I would have a chat with the teacher saying your DD is losing confidence ,feels very unsure of her self and she would benefit from more guidance,clear instructions and support. It's incredibly difficult to navigate this when they are still so little.

@doublexegg
You are being slammed on here, people are piling on, someone upthread even said you are derailing the thread, but it's the poster (s) who are piling on who have derailed. There are some vindictive teachers who should not be in the* *profession.
The OP mentioned that the family live abroad, I know that in the UEA in particular, the equivalent of Ofstead there is even more stringent, not sure what the procedure would be to get rid of a bad apple in teaching, but the OP could officially complain to get the ball rolling.