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Sick of Dds teacher

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Someonepaintmyhouseplease · 12/01/2024 15:10

Dd is 5 and in Pre school (we’re abroad)
She started to not want to go in, in October, she said the teacher was shouting at the children for not doing the work properly etc (I posted on here) I went in several times, plus Dh too.
The teacher said she didn’t shout etc etc, things got better.
This week, she’s been crying again at bedtime and this morning was crying not to go in again, I ended up getting out of her (eventually) that the teacher has been shouting at her (and others) if she puts her name in the wrong place on the paper 🤷🏻‍♀️apparently she shouts ‘Not there, over here!’
Dd was also upset as she says one of the boys in her class (one of her friends) is always shouted at to sit still and stop playing. I’ve seen this boy, he’s very sweet, but younger and obviously full of energy. I understand he has to learn to try to sit and not play during lessons and so on, but Dd says he cries and cries and his face goes red.
So sick and tired of going in to complain and nothing being done.
Dd finishes with this teacher at the end of June, but we want to stay in the school and have to re register to move up to the next part of school. I don’t want to take her out and put the chance of this in jeopardy, but equally I can’t put my Dd in this situation all the time.
This is not merely a teacher bashing thread, I’m a teacher myself and would
never get cross and shout it a 5 year old put their name in the *Wrong place on a paper!
What else can I do? I also need to work part time, so need to have Dd in Pre school
She adores her friends there, is very well liked, loves the teaching assistant, who she says is *Kind to her 😔

OP posts:
doublexegg · 12/01/2024 16:49

1AngelicFruitCake · 12/01/2024 16:44

What job do you do? I’d be interested to know.

What i do is none of your bees wax plus you may not want to no.

Mariposistaa · 12/01/2024 16:59

Someonepaintmyhouseplease · 12/01/2024 15:56

Where we are is a different culture, shouting likely wouldn’t be considered that unusual or wrong

Here you have it. That’s the way they talk. The fact you don’t like it will be irrelevant to them.

Someonepaintmyhouseplease · 12/01/2024 17:06

@1AngelicFruitCake Early years also.

She told me that some other children do it *Wrong and that they get told off too, she said some cry and some don’t. I asked what the teacher does when she and others cried and she said she does nothing.

OP posts:
Someonepaintmyhouseplease · 12/01/2024 17:07

@Mariposistaa Yes…what would be the solution here though? The teacher tells me she doesn’t shout. I think she does.

OP posts:
Someonepaintmyhouseplease · 12/01/2024 17:08

@itsgettingweird She says she doesn’t always know where to do it. She’s 5, she makes mistakes, they all do, you don’t shout at a 5 year old for putting their name in the wrong place ffs.

OP posts:
LondonQueen · 12/01/2024 17:10

I've had a parent say I was shouting at the class, I 100% don't shout and have asked my TA if I was doing it subconsciously! I think some children are more sensitive to tones of voice and perceive this as shouting.

Nonomono · 12/01/2024 17:12

Theunamedcat · 12/01/2024 16:37

Doesn't make them nice people I've met horrific teachers shocking carers l nurses and a Dr who should have lost their jobs yes its "not all" of them but it does colour your views on the rest of them

Why would a few bad ones colour your view for an entire group of people.

I’ve met awful teachers, police officers, SAHP, cleaners and builders - I don’t judge the entire workforce on something that a few of them have done.

What a prejudice mindset you have.

What job do you do?

Nonomono · 12/01/2024 17:13

doublexegg · 12/01/2024 16:49

What i do is none of your bees wax plus you may not want to no.

I personally would love to know.

Its obviously a career where everyone are angels.

WhollyGlorious · 12/01/2024 17:13

Someonepaintmyhouseplease · 12/01/2024 15:56

Where we are is a different culture, shouting likely wouldn’t be considered that unusual or wrong

This might be the issue. If you’re choosing to bring your child up in a shoutier/stricter culture, then this is part and parcel and you won’t get it to change. Some cultures are extremely strict even with small children, and so you might be hard pressed to find a gentler environment for her.

Gingerbee · 12/01/2024 17:15

Hi,
Did you post about the teacher before?
Are you in France?

StaunchMomma · 12/01/2024 17:16

Someonepaintmyhouseplease · 12/01/2024 16:38

It depends…in my line of work, I’ve met some real bullies as teachers and you do have to wonder why they went into the profession…such a shame for all the wonderful, kind, inspiring ones working their arses off and making a positive difference in children’s lives.

I really don’t want to go in and complain again, I hate doing it, but what can I do? Should I try to teach/show Dd how to be stronger and how to let it upset her less? How do I do that? I feel like then i’m dismissing her

It does feel horrible to complain about other teachers but I guess you need to push that aside and purely act from a position of needing to advocate for DD, really.

The school will want to know if she's getting upset about going in. I bet other parents will have spoken to them, if the shouting is as rife as it appears.

doublexegg · 12/01/2024 17:23

Nonomono · 12/01/2024 17:13

I personally would love to know.

Its obviously a career where everyone are angels.

No not a career try again.

Nonomono · 12/01/2024 17:38

doublexegg · 12/01/2024 17:23

No not a career try again.

So you don’t work?

Sherrystrull · 12/01/2024 17:40

It's pretty standard for 5 year olds to be told to stop playing, otherwise they will continue to play during lunch, after home time etc.

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 12/01/2024 17:50

doublexegg · 12/01/2024 15:46

I dont like teachers.
But what i dont understand is that a teacher can get a way with shouting but a parent is called abusive if they shout at their children.
So why is it to be accepted at a school by a stranger.

All teachers in the whole wide world?!

adviceneeded1990 · 12/01/2024 17:54

@doublexegg

I’ve met some awful humans.
So I don’t like people.
Any of them…

Reasonable?

adviceneeded1990 · 12/01/2024 17:55

@doublexegg

Also, no parent ever has been legally charged with child abuse for shouting.

doublexegg · 12/01/2024 17:55

Nonomono · 12/01/2024 17:38

So you don’t work?

I didnt say that i said i dont have a career.
I have to go im busy sticking up for teachers on the other thread.

BrutusMcDogface · 12/01/2024 17:56

@doublexegg how bizarre to say you don’t like teachers. Did teachers not like you when you were at school? 🤔

op- there’s no smoke without fire. The teacher must be doing something to upset the kids, even if it’s not shouting but punishing them for minor things. I think you should email the head as you haven’t got anywhere with the teacher.

doublexegg · 12/01/2024 17:59

adviceneeded1990 · 12/01/2024 17:55

@doublexegg

Also, no parent ever has been legally charged with child abuse for shouting.

I did not say that either i did not say charged i said called abusive by others.
I really need to go and continue with supporting teachers on the other thread.
Have a Good evening.

SusieSussex · 12/01/2024 18:03

Someonepaintmyhouseplease · 12/01/2024 15:56

Where we are is a different culture, shouting likely wouldn’t be considered that unusual or wrong

Which country is it as posters from there might be able to advise what to do.

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 12/01/2024 18:04

Well you can tell schools back! All the "I hate teachers' threads start.
Honestly kids who put teaching down as an option for uni, should be made to read threads like this and the one with the 'pushing/not pushing I want an apology, no actually I don't, how awful is this teacher, I want to complain. Oh I got a complaint form, this action of following up my complaint upset me so much I'm going to self harm' to show how low some parents think them, how nastily people will act and happily destroy their career.
I don't know how teachers do it.

Nonomono · 12/01/2024 18:07

doublexegg · 12/01/2024 17:55

I didnt say that i said i dont have a career.
I have to go im busy sticking up for teachers on the other thread.

So you’re not going to say what job you do?

How ridiculous.

doublexegg · 12/01/2024 18:17

Nonomono · 12/01/2024 18:07

So you’re not going to say what job you do?

How ridiculous.

Not ridiculous what else you want my address lol.

Fifteenth · 12/01/2024 18:25

Have you told the parents of the boy OP?

This happened to my son when he was nine. He didn’t tell me but the parents of another girl did.