ANOTHER war. Anyone else feel terrified of what could come

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Breaking news; UK signing off on air strikes against Yemen. Is this just going to get worse ?

Since having kids this honestly petrifies me. This world is a mess! I feel like it's one thing since another ever since Covid nothing has felt the same at all! Life before that almost feels completely different and a blur ! Anyone else?

There’s a good podcast on the Iraq war where Blair says why in simple terms

You always support a friend was his response as you might need it in return

And yes re ww2 precedent for the relationship

I think people need to be aware of how quickly things can turn, and have empathy for others who are living in war zones.

All this “it’s not happening here” and “it couldn’t happen to me” seems very ignorant and wilfully blind to me.

We need to have the lessons of history in mind. We all have a voice on social media, and in our real lives, not only in the ballot box. It’s wrong to just shut off from things that happen abroad, and is also potentially very dangerous.

Obviously don’t live in a state of fear, but living in awareness is sensible.

I have no idea. I don’t watch or read the news. it’s fear propaganda.

My plans today are watching Peppa Pig with my sick toddler and looking forward to painting the kitchen this weekend.

I cannot worry about the rest of world or the future.

My head is not in the sand. I am probably already more than half way though my life at 44. I could get a diagnosed with a horrible illness or hit by a bus today. I refuse to live a life of fear and worry. What ever happens, happens. Me pouring over the news, worrying about other people in the world that I don’t know, or that the same might happen to us will not change that.

I do believe the world is a game played by rich men. Normal people are collateral damage in that. Everything is planed out for their benefit. So I have three choices: 1)gobble up every bit of news, believe everything I read is real and drive myself mad with worry 2) give up and end it all or 3) see it for what it is, shut off and live in the reality I have.

This is not to help the Yemen in any way, shape or form

I’m not sure what else the UK or US government can do, ships are being attacked, the Iranians have form for pinching ships in the gulf and the Houthis are getting a higher profile from doing this so aren’t going to be stopping anytime soon. They are literally launching barrages of missiles at ships in the red sea, It’s not a random war the west has started.

I think Hezbollah have been really careful to not escalate with Israel but Israel is sailing pretty close to the wind atm. I don’t think there is an appetite for war from any of the neighbouring countries really. Everyone has their own problems and the Houthis are being a pain in the ass to all the countries in those areas using those shipping lanes to move oil and goods.

Eat the cake, you might be dead by midnight anyway.

He said it in a much nicer way though! 😆

It's got all the ingredients for WW3. Doesn't mean it's going to happen, but with Trump looking good for the White House next year....maybe buy a few extra loo rolls!

Your username says it all

Well a WW now would involve nuclear weapons so there's more of a stay on that kind of escalation than there was in the past.

Trump being a serious contender for the White House is a huge worry, I agree

Well they should stop enabling genocide then problem solved

But bombing children is ok because it doesn't affect you?

‘The Saudis couldn’t do it without us’: the UK’s true role in Yemen’s deadly war | Yemen | The Guardian

We have already been in this war for many years. It's just not been in the headlines much.

I don't think that this step increases risk to our national security, because we put that on the line when we first started training and equipping

In the end it's iran and Saudi Arabia waving their tiny limp Willie's at each other.

That route brings LNG in from Qatar. We kind of need it - especially given the issues with Russian gas.

Why now? Well it has been escalating for a while now and ships are now refusing to sail that route. This is to try and nip it in the bud before we start to suffer real consequences of that route being closed.

This is practicality - we need to protect our trade routes - oh and invest in nuclear power.

I wouldn't say I am cowering in fear, but I am concerned about regional escalation. It is widely reported as UK/US but Australia, Canada, Netherlands, Bahrain and Denmark were involved in this action too.

The world is in a precarious state-lesser reported is we have sent a warship to Guyana due to tensions with Venezuela, this is linked to a plane confiscated by Argentina/Uruguay at the behest of the US suspected of links to Al Quds Force (terrorist group, Iranian).

War is always present, unfortunately. The concern at the moment in my view, is the number of "superpowers" being drawn into conflict globally at the same time.

De escalation is urgently needed across the world, really.

Though I agree It isn't past him or at least his closest friends, there have been support already

During the sit down protest that was next to/on Westminster bridge they were shouting support for Yemen. Which means basically Houthi. They won't shout Houthi directly similar to why they don't shout Hamas directly. However in this case it is pretty obvious what they meant even to those in denial about some of the protesters behaviour.

You might find this podcast useful where this is discussed in the wider context too: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-rachman-review/id1504048545?i=1000641258011

I’m carrying on with life as normal. I’ve applied for urgent passports/ replacements for all of the family as a precaution.
first sign of trouble and we’ll be flying very far south to a country which never gets involved in this stuff. We’re professionally very attractive to the country we’d plan to settle in and I’ve moved twenty grand into an account that wouldn’t be affected by our banking systems failing, I’ve Increased available balances across all credit cards too , so we’d be fine for months even as ‘tourists’ paying hotel prices if we had to.
by knowing we’re able to flee and have access to money and flights I’m reassured.
Daughter wants to move out there anyway because she hates the British winter 🤣
So I’ve prepared for it all kicking off but also just living as normal and I work in probably the biggest terrorism/ military target zone in the U.K. too.

umm? do you think the Houthis are going to start firing missiles at the UK or something?

It's not like the UK hasn't been involved in wars a fair amount in the last 30 - 40 years or anything.

I’m carrying on with life as normal.

Err.. if you say so!

This is practicality - we need to protect our trade routes - oh and invest in nuclear power.

Yy, if there's one thing we ought to have learned in the last two years it's that we need to be making our own energy supply.

The UK has been in a constant state of war for decades. Not necessarily in the traditional sense but war has evolved, our enemy is no longer overseas, they're embedded within us. The IRA then Islamist terror groups for instance have been a threat for a long time. The "front" isn't a defined thing like the trenches in WW1, it's everywhere.

If you went back to the Battle of Hastings or similar fights around that period you might wonder how sides managed to tell their enemy apart from their allies. The simple fact was, the people on each side looked physically different. A millenium of migration and breeding means our enemy often looks exactly like us.

War is a natural state for humans to be in. We don't like being on the losing side, we don't like the casualties we suffer even if we win, but it's a necessary process and cannot be avoided. If you try to avoid war you just make the enemy stronger when it does happen. And it WILL happen sooner or later.

We're in an unusual period of history so our view of warfare is a bit messed up. The horrors of WW2 are still well-known and atrocities committed today are beamed around the world on TV and the internet. We also know that a proper all-out nuclear war could effectively lead to our swift extinction. That's why we view war so negatively, that's why it seems so stupid and pointless. The trouble is our awareness of how bad war is is out of step with our nature evolving to a point where it becomes unnecessary.

When I worry about war I usually watch the "This is our war" promo from the 1990s - bang after bang after bang after bang!

Do you think that doing nothing is cost-free? Quite a lot of what comes through Suez is pretty important, yes. For a start, if you are in any way dependant upon petrol or diesel (and almost all of us are, I don't own a car but food doesn't transport itself to the shops). It's not about plastic tat from China.

If the UK is in a constant state of war, why are you arguing that, if you ty to avoid war you make the enemy stronger when it doe happen.

I disagree, we are not in a constant state of war, what you are describing is division and disagreement.