ANOTHER war. Anyone else feel terrified of what could come

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Breaking news; UK signing off on air strikes against Yemen. Is this just going to get worse ?

Since having kids this honestly petrifies me. This world is a mess! I feel like it's one thing since another ever since Covid nothing has felt the same at all! Life before that almost feels completely different and a blur ! Anyone else?

Agreed. War/fear is all part of the control. Scared people are much easier to control. My life and stress levels have become much better since I stepped away from the news.

All politicians are the same because you only make it to the top if you agree to follow the narrative. Most of the world’s media is controlled by a handful of people.

I’m not more worried about the state of the world than I was yesterday based on this news.
I am however pissed off that Sunak is spaffing money away on this ‘new’ war in a desperately pathetic attempt at a ‘Thatcher Falklands moment’ as we approach an election. Yes trade disruption is a concern, but a different approach to the Isreal Gaza conflict would have a far bigger impact, and likely cost less. Leaders have long got involved in foreign conflicts for their personal political gain, and so it continues.

Do you think it will cost nothing to go to war? All paid for by taxes that are desperately needed for health, education and public services?

I wonder how much of the cargo being sent down that trade route is essential? Maybe we could do with a rethink about some of goods that we are buying from the other side of the world that we could live without? I have no idea what is in the cargo ships - I'm sure much of it is essential, but what % of it is tat? How much impact would iu have on inflation if it was things we really don't need.

Why this war? Why has this government chosen this one? It's all about elections and opinion polls.

The way I see it is, there's a whole other world going on above our heads. It's about economic and corporate interests, international relations, historical conflicts etc. It's extremely complex, and the narratives the media supplies are so simplistic, they're barely worth bothering with.

I swapped reading the news for reading history books. I didn't have a great education, and I believe I'll be working on my historical knowledge for the rest of my life. And I know that I cannot possibly read every interpretation of events. But I'm very slowly learning how things came to be, and building up valuable perspective and context.

Beyond that, I don't get wound up about things. There has and always will be conflict. I am so grateful to live in a relatively safe and stable country. And our brains were never built to take on the worries of the whole world.

I see many people I know (aged 20s/30s) becoming seriously desperate and depressed about events thousands of miles away. They seem to live entirely online, and are apparently addicted to the news cycle. They're extremely unhappy and it's sad. You could argue that they must be lovely people to be so caring, but they tend to be quite vicious, and do little to help others in real life.

Erm, no. Disrupted shipping lanes, oil hitting triple figures for a barrel again, further inflationary effects on an increasingly fragile economy doesn't seem preferable.

I dont agree with the air strikes, but they are attacking British & American ships in the Red Sea. So I wouldn’t say it’s nothing to do with us.

Massively increases the risk of escalation, so yes I am worried. Mostly because I have no confidence in the government to make the right decisions. Anyone who thinks that we are immune to the consequences of these actions is sadly wrong.

@calimali - even if it is non-essential tat, a lot of jobs, businesses and therefor taxes will rely on the buying and selling of non-essential tat.

Even buying UK or EU made products, many of the component parts or equipment supporting the wider supply chain will be imported from the far east.

Brexit and COVID has shown how difficult it is trying to un-pick the complex web of trade routes, and we're years down the line.

It's a bit of a depressing consequence of globalisation, but it's the reality we live in.

This!
People are so fearful because of the BBC endlessly pumping us this stuff best thing I ever did was to get rid and stop paying the licence.

Because they are bombing civillan trade ships on a busy, global shipping route. Part of the function of the Royal Navy is to protect our interests at sea, and also to protect Civilian life. I'm sure plenty of people against this would be moaning should the price of goods continue to sky rocket, and should they make headway towards our shores. There are also plenty of interventions at sea against stuff like this, it hasn't been hand picked, its just obviously got potentially greater implications so people are more bothered.

The US economy needs war, so there will always be a constant stream of conflict for them to cash in on.

There's a reason they've been involved in one conflict or another almost continuously since their independence.

As long as we're on their side there will be relatively little problems for us.

This is so ignorant, it scares me people like you can vote! Have a look into the history of this, into activity at sea in the area and the proven implications of just leaving them to get on with it. There's a reason Labour are backing Rishi on this one, you're wild to think they'd do anything differently.

I wonder how much of the cargo being sent down that trade route is essential? Maybe we could do with a rethink about some of goods that we are buying from the other side of the world that we could live without? I have no idea what is in the cargo ships - I'm sure much of it is essential, but what % of it is tat? How much impact would iu have on inflation if it was things we really don't need

”Up to 15% of the world’s shipping traffic goes through the Suez Canal, Sanders says. Commercial vessels mainly carry oil and liquefied natural gas, as well as grains and certain consumer goods”

“A long-term disruption of traffic through the Red Sea will impact energy prices, particularly for consumers in Europe. About one-fifth of the traffic through the Suez Canal is oil, either on ships or sent across Egypt via the Sumed pipeline, with the total volume of crude oil and refined products shipped either way at nearly 9 million barrels per day (bpd), roughly 12% of total seaborne trade.”

Not just tat & obviously people being tat is still a big part of the economy.

buying tat!

I’m surprised people are fine with increase in oil etc we’ve just been through that

I used to be very interested in current affairs and (hate the expression...) a news junkie. Since the awful events in Gaza and Israel I've just stopped watching the news. There's nothing I can do about what's happening.

People in the past didn't know what was going on even in the next town. It's a very new thing (only a couple of hundred years) that we've been told of all the tragedies happening across the world. It's too much for most people, understandably.

I know all the arguments about being well-informed, but I'm old and I've had enough of not sleeping and agonising about things in lands far, far away. They may well come back to bite us, but I'm not going to stress about it now.

People have been chanting support outside our parliament for the Houthi attacks on ships for a while.

I think a lot of people don’t think about how the price of oil knocks onto the price of virtually everything else and competitiveness in making and providing everything else.

@EasternStandard I doubt they are, I think many don’t understand the importance of trade routes & supply chains or think it’s all tat. As a pp said covid showed users. I’m sure if prices go up there will be threads about it!

They're absolutely cool with petrol up to £2/litre again, food inflation back to 15%, further demands on wage inflation, the boe trying to keep a lid on it all by ramping up the base rate again, hello ridiculous mortgage rates again. It's no problem. It's just a bit of tatt.

I don’t really understand your comment, but my post was in response to the person who said she wasn’t bothered as nothing would happen in this country that would affect us. I was pointing out how untrue that was.

But who is ‘they’? There isn’t a ‘they’ that’s got a grand plan and is ‘in charge’. Just a bunch of politicians. At the moment most of them are self serving. I agree with news limiting for good mental health but please please use your next vote wisely and be as informed as you can.

Ha ha!

Look at Supermarket profits? they (and others) need tiny excuses to hike prices, way beyond cost increases, take Formula milk prices? Supermarket fuel is often more than independent garage prices, margins have trebled from pre Ukraine ones.

Sure firms will use the issues in the Red sea to increases prices and the attacks by the USA/UK will now make this a certainty as insurance prices will make using the Suez route impossible.

This about 2 leaders way behind in the 'polls and facing re election.

Yep although apart from those few pp generally the public will be pretty loud over that happening again. It was incredibly hard the first time

Yeah, the UK should kill people so you cam have cheaper petrol. Savage.