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Leaving 10 year son in cafes

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shineyhappypeople78 · 07/01/2024 10:28

What do people think about this? Do you leave your 10 year olds alone in cafes for an hour+ at a time, with no phone or means to contact you, or anyone. In a large city, not a village cafe where everyone knows you and your family.

Children's dad has them every other weekend for daytime contact only, and once during the week after school. There is an ongoing family court case which has currently stopped overnight contact due to concerns based about neglect. Part of which was based on him leaving 10 year old who has ADHD and waiting for autism assessment, alone in the caravan he lives in.

He is now leaving our son in cafes when he has him. He gives him an ipad and he plays games and watches Youtube videos on his own. He's mentioned it a few times and I've asked my son if he's ok with it, but he's the sort of boy who masks a lot and he just says things like, "well i can talk to my friends on Discord so its fine" but it does seem to be bothering him. He has ADHD so being allowed to game without boundaries is a massive draw for him, almost like an addiction, he can't see through. When i asked him the last time before he left to be with him if he was ok with being left alone in different cafes, he burst into tears and said "Why doesn't daddy want me around?". To highlight I only ever ask casually and say things like can you order your own food and drink if you're hungry, and make a joke about how cool is that.

I suppose my question is firstly is this safe? I would never dream of doing it, but I hardly ever leave him alone at home and if I do only for maximum half an hour whilst I nip to the shops, and always in daytime. He's been leaving him for hours, and also in the dark, 4-6pm after school last week....Whilst he goes and does stuff with the younger one...He is also quite immature for his age, and very innocent, easily led, a dopamine miner (ADHD, autism).. I just dont feel comfortable but before I try and face this latest issue I just want to know what other parents think?

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SensationalSusie · 07/01/2024 21:40

Cruisinforcroissant · 07/01/2024 19:52

Adhd has an average age adjustment for executive function of 30%- so it’s like leaving a 6-7 year old.

I was going to say this actually.

OP it is really not remotely ok for a regular child, never mind a ND one.

Particularly as he is in the same place alone at regular times he is at risk of kidnapping, sexual assault, physical assault, robbery, never mind psychological damage being left by his father and what anyone could say to him.

He is a particularly vulnerable child and should absolutely not be left alone like this. It’s appalling.

MumPod · 07/01/2024 21:48

Absolutely not! Simple answer

SensationalSusie · 07/01/2024 21:49

I haven’t been in your position but if you are fighting this on the basis of neglect you need to relate it strongly to your son’s diagnosis, his heightened vulnerability, inability to cope akin to an age matched child and the impact it is having on him at him causing him trauma. That is what really sets this aside reading your story.

If this were a regular child 10 going on 11, it might be passable on the odd occasion.

But you have a disabled child being neglected here.

Flyhigher · 07/01/2024 22:00

Why can't the child go with the younger one?
It's both together or none. Where are the others going?

LostSocksBrigade · 07/01/2024 22:15

Please discuss getting your son off discord, it's really really not safe for children at all.

shineyhappypeople78 · 07/01/2024 22:36

Thanks for all the comments and advice today. Some really useful, some just weirdly incredible, but anyway, thanks to the useful, helpful, kind comments who understood what I was saying, and where I am coming from.

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Copperoliverbear · 07/01/2024 23:47

I would stop sending him, if he's not spending him with him anyway what's the point x

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