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Derek Draper has passed away - Kate Garraway's husband

205 replies

Zingy123 · 05/01/2024 11:49

How sad he wasn't very old.

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DriftingDora · 05/01/2024 13:16

So sad, after such a long while, hoping he'd overcome some of the problems. It just seems so cruel. Hoping Derek's at peace and Kate and her family find some comfort from those close to her.

Supersimkin2 · 05/01/2024 13:17

RIP Derek - a merciful release after four years of battle.

I hope Kate has a chance to rest now her caring burden has eased.

justasking111 · 05/01/2024 13:18

NoTouch · 05/01/2024 13:15

The complications he experienced were extreme, I suspect if he was in a family with less resources available to them he might have died much earlier and not had the opportunities to try various treatments. In hindsight who can say if that was a blessing or curse.

I hope his family have time to start to grieve for the husband and dad they have lost now he is at peace. I wouldn't wish what he went through on anyone.

It makes me think about all the other unheard long covid, or covid damaged people out there trying to get on with their own damaged lives and what support they are getting.

My friend has attended a clinic for long covid sufferers for two years at the local hospital. It's real, but not advertised

ElsieMc · 05/01/2024 13:20

@RenoDakota - Yes, thought the same and then the comment upthread on here. Just don't get it at all. Kate needs to be left in peace to grieve, she must feel exhausted.

hpsaucy · 05/01/2024 13:25

@justasking111

I always think the same. My husband got Covid in March 2020 and was put on a ventilator. His kidneys failed in April and the ventilator was turned off. If always surprised me that Derek had so much internal damage but they kept him on a ventilator for so long.

Me and my daughters (19 and 15 at the time) always said, that we wouldn't wanted DH to survive and live like Derek as he's suffered so much. DH would have hated living that way

samG76 · 05/01/2024 13:25

DH was at Uni with him, Said he was very approachable, not up himself like many of the would-be-politicians, and did a lot of good for students. Of course, that was the late 80s when student welfare was considered to be important for a student leader, as opposed to endless "progressive" virtue signalling .

justasking111 · 05/01/2024 13:26

I worked in a hospice for a number of years the bulk of the grieving is done long before the death of a loved one.

Sorry if this offends anyone

wannabetraveler · 05/01/2024 13:28

FreshWinterMorning · 05/01/2024 12:11

I agree with your second sentence. I just didn't want to say it. Sad

Me too. Similar to the situation with Michael Schumacher; I often wonder if surviving in such circumstances was actually worse.

God rest his soul.

AnneValentine · 05/01/2024 13:30

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Toastcrumbsinsofa · 05/01/2024 13:31

I’m so sad to hear this but he’d suffered for such a long time. Like pp, I would not have wanted myself or a close family member to have been kept on a ventilator for so long.

Kate Garraway has been so incredibly brave throughout this nightmare.

Janieforever · 05/01/2024 13:31

Having someone with long COVID in a high profile position has always made me feel it was harder for the powers that be to pretend long COVID wasn't a problem

he didn’t have long covid. His organs were badly damaged due to covid, but he survived it, just, for nearly 4 years, but he wasn’t classed as having long covid as such.

long covid is classified as fatigue, dizziness, brain fog, muscle aches , heart palpitations etc, what Derek had was very different indeed and one of very few people globally in that condition,

LindaDawn · 05/01/2024 13:32

I think the stress and overwhelming toll of caring for Derek must have been immense for Kate. What dedication Kate showed to her husband. Feel sure if he wasn’t such a high profile case that he wouldn’t have survived so long. It’s not always the right thing to survive in a case like this. Feel for Kate and kids though. Such a sad sad case.

Peasandsweetcorns · 05/01/2024 13:33

TooOldForThisNonsense · 05/01/2024 12:26

To be fair Derek took ill before there were vaccines. The number of people as badly affected now is thankfully much less, although it does still happen of course.

very sad for KG and her family. At least Derek is finally at peace.

There are still very large numbers of people getting long term problems / long covid, but very little reporting about it. The Canadian government published a report just before Christmas saying their statistics so far indicate that for Canadian adults who live in private households there is still a roughly 14 point something percent risk per infection, despite vaccinations. With the risk being cumulative and almost 38% of Canadian adults having long term problems after 3 infections. It’s expected to become a major problem for societies, due to the increasing likelihood of problems the more times someone gets infected. Canadian government report: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/catalogue/75-006-X202300100015

Experiences of Canadians with long-term symptoms following COVID-19

This study uses data from the Canadian COVID-19 Antibody and Health Survey to describe the current COVID-19 landscape, including infection, reinfection, and acute and long-term symptoms. This study also examines how peoples’ experiences with the virus...

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/catalogue/75-006-X202300100015

Goatymum · 05/01/2024 13:36

To add, re covid, are people still getting extreme complications now post-vaccine rollout, with anti-vitals etc available? Most of the ‘bad’ cases or deaths I heard about were in 2020.

Montydoo · 05/01/2024 13:37

Sad but not entirely unexpected - but no one could have raised the profile of carers, long covid and most importantly Derek - may they be left alone to grieve

Stringagal · 05/01/2024 13:38

justasking111 · 05/01/2024 13:26

I worked in a hospice for a number of years the bulk of the grieving is done long before the death of a loved one.

Sorry if this offends anyone

I agree with this, I have grieved far more at the news of an awful terminal illness than at the actual time of death. Watching someone you love fade away in pain as a shadow of their former selves is a hideous thing to go through. Thoughts with Kate, I hope she finds peace in the coming days and months.

WhyAmINotCleaning · 05/01/2024 13:38

SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 05/01/2024 11:50

So sad that he has been so poorly for nearly 3 years.

It's nearly four years.

Thinking of the family and all they've been through. RIP. Flowers

MerryMarigold · 05/01/2024 13:39

It makes me think about all the other unheard long covid, or covid damaged people out there trying to get on with their own damaged lives and what support they are getting

It's really hard. When my friend was very ill she got a lot of support. The Covid caused massive strokes so she was hospitalised/ in rehab for 23 months - had to learn to swallow etc. But now she is back home 2.5 years later, the care is not great. Her mum was denied a visa to come here to take care of the children, her husband has given up work but the UC doesn't cover their costs, the council still haven't housed them, she's in their living room with no downstairs bathroom or facilities to be washed properly, sporadic physio which will soon stop and no Speech/Language. She's not great emotionally. She can communicate by spelling words but it's very arduous and frustrating and she's often in tears. She can't parent or join in with friends and understands all this very clearly. It's tough on her children, especially her teen, and very difficult for her husband who I can see is struggling with the kids, with the finances, with his wife's mental health. It's heartbreaking. I do sometimes wonder if it would have been easier to lose her and I'm sure she thinks the same. There is grief every which way but this grief is drawn out.

justasking111 · 05/01/2024 13:39

OH had the jab yesterday. He had a funny turn at the supermarket this morning, came home feels really wobbly. Had a bit of lunch now asleep. I've refused the top up jab Thus far.

One of us is right 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Nonomono · 05/01/2024 13:42

hpsaucy · 05/01/2024 13:25

@justasking111

I always think the same. My husband got Covid in March 2020 and was put on a ventilator. His kidneys failed in April and the ventilator was turned off. If always surprised me that Derek had so much internal damage but they kept him on a ventilator for so long.

Me and my daughters (19 and 15 at the time) always said, that we wouldn't wanted DH to survive and live like Derek as he's suffered so much. DH would have hated living that way

I’m so sorry to hear that 💐

TheMerryWidow1 · 05/01/2024 13:49

Bless you Derek, you both fought so hard. xxxxx

Lifeomars · 05/01/2024 13:51

CurrentHun · 05/01/2024 12:06

Having someone with long COVID in a high profile position has always made me feel it was harder for the powers that be to pretend long COVID wasn't a problem.

very much this. I know of people who have been really long term disabled by Covid and can’t work or leave bed yet there is a view that the pandemic is over. No need for precautions, testing, public information about it. It’s a very worrying official blind spot.

Very true, I have a friend who is now in their mid 30's and has had Covid 3 times which has left them with damaged lungs. They used to dance and work out with weights and now just going for a walk tires them. I often wonder how people with Long Covid will be affected later in life, I think we are going to see a lot of damage

Lifeomars · 05/01/2024 13:54

My heart goes out to Kate and her children. She has been admirable and so strong for so long in such difficult circumstances.

SoupDragon · 05/01/2024 13:57

It's one of those occasions where there are two very different feelings - sadness at the loss and also a sense of relief that he is now at peace and pain free. I had this when both my parents died.

Echobelly · 05/01/2024 13:57

Very sorry to hear that. As people have said, she has done sterling work in raising awareness about the most severe effects and I hope his suffering won't be in vain and lessons will be learned that can help people.