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Another wedding related one

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mrsclaus1984 · 05/01/2024 04:21

Around 5 years ago, DH and I, and my parents, went to my cousin’s wedding.
It cost us a fair bit to go, a couple of us needed new outfits as was upmarket venue, cousin had requested money for honeymoon as gifts, we needed annual leave from work as was on a weekday and not local. Etc etc.

(warning: this all sounds a bit insane - I promise it is real!)

Less than a year later, the newlyweds had separated. All swept under the carpet so we’ve no idea what happened.

At some point down the line (several months at most - can’t remember exactly), he’s in a new relationship. They get engaged and have a baby in quick succession.

That relationship ended too.

Last year, he gets into a new relationship. This was around 6 months ago. They are now engaged .. and we’ve just received an invite to their wedding later this year.

We don’t want to go. My parents feel the same way, but are aware of potential family fallout if they don’t go.

Are we BU?

OP posts:
TedWilson · 05/01/2024 23:13

I think I'd go for entertainment.

Josienpaul · 06/01/2024 19:27

I don’t think the OP is that bothered what he gets up, but wouldn’t you be Annoyed that he seems to commit to everything that walks and then be expected to celebrate, costing you personally lots of money?

Ghyur · 06/01/2024 20:41

My husband has a friend who is a “serial fiancé” bless him, never quite makes it down the aisle 🤦‍♀️ The point the op is making is 5 years, three fiancés, one ex-wife and a child, yea he’s been busy and quite frankly has the rebounding capacity of a rubber ball by the sounds of things. As other posters have said that’s a hell of a lot of “life long commitments” in that space of time.
Op obviously and rightly so considers marriage or even the suggestion of it to be taken a bit more seriously than the cousin does. Yea sure things happen outside of your control but there seems to be a common denominator here and it sounds like the cousin 🤷‍♀️ if he keeps going at this rate for another few years he’ll have spent his pension on diamonds and parties.
Well done OP so seeing it how it is and making your excuses. As another poster said hard to listen to “till death do us part” several times from the same person.

PeekABoo22 · 06/01/2024 20:42

Is his name Ross Geller?

Ghyur · 06/01/2024 20:43
Ghyur · 06/01/2024 20:46

PosyPrettyToes · 05/01/2024 10:26

Tell him you're busy but you'll be at the next one?

I love this 🤣

StockpotSoup · 07/01/2024 14:02

He could just be leading woman after woman down the garden path and dumping them for the next one, in which case I don't blame OP for not wanting to go to the latest wedding.

Do none of the women involved have any agency? Several people have commented here about the cousin’s behaviour raising “red flags” - if you can all see it, why the assumption that his fiancée is a poor little innocent, downtrodden woman who has no idea it could potentially go wrong?

Of course his relationship history isn’t ideal, but unless he’s lied about it, an adult woman has decided she’s okay with it and still wants to marry him. I don’t see how he’s leading anyone “up the garden path”.

blackpanth · 07/01/2024 14:04

Yanbu

CoffeeCantata · 07/01/2024 16:29

I would decline. I'd be very cynical about celebrating any kind of relationship of this fickle fellow's and wouldn't trust myself to hide my feelings.

SquirrelMadness · 07/01/2024 17:00

StockpotSoup · 07/01/2024 14:02

He could just be leading woman after woman down the garden path and dumping them for the next one, in which case I don't blame OP for not wanting to go to the latest wedding.

Do none of the women involved have any agency? Several people have commented here about the cousin’s behaviour raising “red flags” - if you can all see it, why the assumption that his fiancée is a poor little innocent, downtrodden woman who has no idea it could potentially go wrong?

Of course his relationship history isn’t ideal, but unless he’s lied about it, an adult woman has decided she’s okay with it and still wants to marry him. I don’t see how he’s leading anyone “up the garden path”.

Pretty sure I said in my post that he could have just been incredibly unlucky, maybe both of the previous two women left him. In which case he could be a little more cautious about getting into another serious relationship so quickly. So I'm not assuming the women are poor, downtrodden women with no agency. We don't know.

However, people (men and women) get into less than ideal relationships for many reasons. I'm speaking from experience. There are many reasons why people sometimes ignore red flags.

Just because another adult woman has decided she wants to marry this man doesn't mean the OP has to accept, welcome and support the marriage.

contrary13 · 08/01/2024 16:21

Maybe this makes me "a bad person" - but I've been in this situation before, with my best friend. She married, 400 miles away from where I live, on a weekday, hyped my then-8 year old daughter up that she was going to be a bridesmaid and told me that I was her Matron of Honour - a week before I gave birth to my now-19 year old. I had the expense of a hotel in an expensive city, two outfits (my original outfit didn't fit because she bought it when I was still only 5 months pregnant, but luckily didn't get funny when I turned up in my black "smart" maternity clothes... because it was either that, or my ex's tee-shirt and pyjama bottoms, because I was the size of a small farm by that stage), my ex couldn't take time off work (he didn't like the friend, is the truth of the matter) so I also had to drive 800 miles or so with a hyped-up 8 year old (who looked like an angel, actually and performed her duties very sweetly) in the car, not knowing anyone but the bride and groom (and I wasn't a great fan of him, because he was borderline abusive to my friend) - to be told, "oh, I just fancied a big party!" when asked by one of the other bridesmaids about her reasons for getting married. It jarred all three of us a little, as we'd all had to travel to support her need for "a big party" and being the centre of attention. One of the ushers took pity on me when my friend joked about the city having a fantastic hospital if I suddenly went into labour, and stayed as sober as I had to, because literally one day from my due date, "just in case" (and he was actually very funny and we spent the miserable "big party" people watching - because there wasn't even any music!) I was terrified of having my son without his Dad around, but I went because the bride was (still is) my best friend and I wanted to support her... not realising until too late why she was getting married. I remember saying to my ex that it was "a once in a lifetime event" for her, and my daughter would have been devastated if she couldn't be a bridesmaid, my friend having really hyped the whole thing up for her ("you'll be a little princess for the day..."). It could have been worse. I gave birth a week to the day later, my daughter had a day being doted on by strangers - and I met my now-partner (said usher).

The marriage lasted a year and four months.

I judged massively when, two years later, she decides to get married again - another big ceremony, lavish reception, same expensive city, would the children like to be bridesmaid and pageboy, with me Matron of Honour again...? Nope. No thanks. Not going to happen. Learned that lesson. Ex and I were mysteriously busy that Thursday, thanks... doing what? Erm... uh... making chocolate teapots!

That marriage lasted two years.

Last week, I got a "save the date" 'e'vite to friend's third "big party". Usher and I are not attending, although my 28 year old daughter might be (not as a bridesmaid because she's no longer so angelic and cute/suitable for a photo prop).

Conversely, another old school friend's marriage imploded after a year (we were at that wedding, too, whilst I was pregnant with my 19 year old, but it was literally in our village and she was marrying because she thought herself in love. When she remarried, she and her second husband (they're still together) took themselves, two witnesses and their parents off to the local Registry Office, then announced they were married afterwards. Quiet, discrete, everyone was happy for them.

First friend, everyone in our friendship group sort of rolls their eyes and wonders how long each marriage will last and how many kids she'll have this time (she has one from the first and two from the second - none of which she has custody of, so personally. I do worry that she's vulnerable and trying to create "the perfect family" and that's why it's not working, because it's not possible).

(Before anyone jumps on me - I refused to get married for a multitude of reasons, although said lovely usher did propose to me on New Year's Eve and I have tentatively said "yes". IF he ever gets me before an officiant, it'll be me, him, my kids and our parents... and it'll be because he claims to have fallen for me whilst I was stone cold sober, annoyed and the size of a farm with swollen ankles... and because he was sweet, kind, funny, indulged my daughter by playing our weird made up word game "Pig", and repeatedly tells me that I am still beautiful despite being a sweaty peri- mess...)

But yes; I would judge. I have judged. Second plus marriages... discretion is key.

YANBU, @mrsclaus1984 Xmas Grin

StockpotSoup · 08/01/2024 16:55

So you ended up getting into a relationship with someone you met the day before you had someone else’s baby? I imagine a fair few people might get quite judgmental about that.

Of course, I’m sure there’s more context than what you’ve shared here. But perhaps there is for OP’s cousin too. Maybe this is a lesson for you.

contrary13 · 08/01/2024 18:01

@StockpotSoup - we became friends, I was with my ex for another four years, stayed friends with the usher (son is 19, btw) and we only got together 3 years ago. Incidentally, ex was having it away with someone else and told me on the day his girlfriend had their baby, who is now 15. If that hadn't happened, I would be with my ex - and miserable (as would he), rather than with someone who actually loves me and makes me feel like I matter. Even if just to him.

My friends all love him, my kids like him (he, my son and my son-in-law are currently all having a Fifa tournament downstairs, loudly) and my parents find he's handy for putting shelves up. If people want to judge me for that - for making a friend that ended up being, potentially, the love of my life (ex and I were together from 14 to 30...), so be it.

Stones and all that.

But thank you so much for assuming (although yes; more context - IF I ever get married, it won't be because I fancy "a big party"... it'll be because I genuinely love the other person and want to spend the remainder of my life with them.). So judge away... at the end of the day, I daresay that I couldn't give two shiney shites.

beanii · 10/02/2024 17:41

How is this even an issue - just don't go, you don't HAVE to 🤦‍♀️

Gosh, I didn't go to my grandads funeral - rather remember him in my own way.

TrustyRusty68 · 13/02/2024 11:55

It’s ok to say thanks, but unfortunately we can’t make it. Hope you have a wonderful day. No drama or upset :-)

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