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Nursery: Christmas jumper

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Ny24 · 03/01/2024 12:25

AIBU?

So my DC is 2 yrs old and in Nov/Dec got a heap of Christmassy type clothes. Some very obviously Christmas (Santa jumper), some more fair isle type stuff. I bought quite alot of things and so did family - e.g my Mum bought 3 jumpers etc etc. So there is genuinely a lot of it but it all got worn from end of Nov through to New Year but obviously still in very good condition.

Some of the stuff I bought was really lovely and not that cheap - it was from John Lewis and JoJo etc but for me, I always think well lovely clothes for pics over the Christmas period and then it's stuff that can be worn for nursery till it gets wrecked/no longer fits.

So this morning did drop off at nursery and the staff member made a point of saying 'oh a Christmas jumper' quite disparagingly..... to be honest the jumper they went in with today wasn't 'that Christmassy' - it was a red fair isle jumper with small robins on it. But I do fully intend to send DC in with their Santa jumper in the coming weeks.

To be honest, I don't really care - given the tatt and thread bare leggings and stained tops I see other kids sent in wearing, a child going in wearing a lovely warm, clean, non-stained, albeit 'Santa' jumper isn't something I'm going to lose sleep over. It's nursery - clothes get wrecked. They fit. They're good quality - they can be worn for nursery until the weather gets warmer is my attitude. I'm not judging the monstrosity of outfits I see other people sending their kids in because I completely get it - it's nursery - and everything comes home with paint and tomato sauce and glitter all over it.

But I just wondered is this an eye rolling what the hell is that mother playing at - type of thing? Or would most of you just think the same - clearly got a lot of Christmas clothes, it's nursery, the child is 2yrs old - of course it makes sense for the child to wear them?

Or would you be secretly judging me thinking I'm very unreasonable? I'm genuinely planning on my DC getting full use out of these clothes for nursery till March! So be honest - I want to know what I'm up against! Haha.

OP posts:
tiredmama23 · 03/01/2024 19:08

SoupDragon · 03/01/2024 12:46

given the tatt and thread bare leggings and stained tops I see other kids sent in wearing

so, you notice and judge what the other children are wearing...?

I'm not judging the monstrosity of outfits I see other people sending their kids in

your description says otherwise! 😂

Haha yep - I wasn't alone in my observation then 😂

00100001 · 03/01/2024 19:15

Kalevala · 03/01/2024 18:39

I agree, except for the too small, not necessarily. Too small in summer are fine to me if they are just ankle freezers but otherwise fit. I buy new in autumn as needed.

I'm obviously talking about far too small or inappropriate, not just a bit of ankle showing, because your kid had a growth spurt and you can't get a new pair until the end of the month it whatever.

Ladybrrrd · 03/01/2024 19:25

Wow OP.
Not judging others, but tatt and monstrosities, whereas you get lovely clothes from John Lewis? Do your judgy pants reach your ears?

I think it's more than likely you misunderstood or misinterpreted her comment.

Kalevala · 03/01/2024 19:27

00100001 · 03/01/2024 19:15

I'm obviously talking about far too small or inappropriate, not just a bit of ankle showing, because your kid had a growth spurt and you can't get a new pair until the end of the month it whatever.

I mean I think it's fine if they are too small all summer as long as they have new by the time it gets cold. I wouldn't rush out on the next payday. Ours are only ever outgrown on the legs and sleeves though.

MondayBags678 · 03/01/2024 19:31

I wouldn’t
id save for next year if 2-3? Would they possibly fit?
or sell on if good condition?

Ny24 · 03/01/2024 19:33

tiredmama23 · 03/01/2024 19:07

Sorry but the glaring irony of this statement:

I'm not judging the monstrosity of outfits I see other people sending their kids in because I completely get it

Was there ever a more judgemental description of an outfit than "monstrosity" 😂😂

Do you think that little ones don't dress like that? My DC wore a bright yellow tutu, with an orange stripy top and brown wellies. It was a monstrosity.

Passing judgement is placing meaning behind it - it's thinking 'they must dress their children like that because - they're poor, because they don't care, because they have no etiquette etc etc'.

That is making a judgement. Looking at a child and saying that child is wearing thread bare leggings, or that outfit is a monstrosity - is an observation, a fact. A judgment is when you attach meaning and reasoning behind it which I don't.

My child wears tatt, my child wears horrendous outfits, my child wears second hand, my child goes to nursery sometimes looking a right state - because that's life and that's kids.

I don't pass a judgment on other parents and attach meaning to their child's clothes because I understand the morning battle, the fact things are going to get ruined at nursery and I'm right in there in the trenches with them - but it is why I'm surprised that judgement was passed on me this morning for a 'christmas jumper'.

Not sure how I can be any clearer to be honest.

OP posts:
Ny24 · 03/01/2024 19:33

Ladybrrrd · 03/01/2024 19:25

Wow OP.
Not judging others, but tatt and monstrosities, whereas you get lovely clothes from John Lewis? Do your judgy pants reach your ears?

I think it's more than likely you misunderstood or misinterpreted her comment.

DC got a couple of nice things from John Lewis and JoJo for Christmas - that is not how they are dressed all year round.

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PumpkinSpiceSeason · 03/01/2024 19:38

Last year I bought a discount end of season larger Xmas jumper for DS age 3. £4 from John Lewis yay!

It's a size 4 grey sweatshirt material and has nine bears and only if you look close can you tell it's meant to be seasonal hats and holly on them.

I'm so chuffed with this thick lovely top that he wore it all last winter with the cuffs up oversized and will wear it all this winter too.

And quite frankly if he can wear it all next winter more fitted I'm going to do that too!

Nursery: Christmas jumper
Ladybrrrd · 03/01/2024 20:02

The problem is how you wrote it. OTHER children were wearing monstrosities. OTHER child were wearing tatt. YOUR DC was in warm, fresh, clean, clothes.

Perhaps you should think about how you find across.

MistressWeatherwax1 · 03/01/2024 20:09

As long as it fits properly, is clean and weather appropriate our nursery wouldn't care if it had a Christmas pattern on it. Keep letting your DC wear it 🙂

BogRollBOGOF · 03/01/2024 20:09

It's still the 10th day of Christmas so totally acceptable to even the clutchiest of pearl wearers.

I can pack my Christmas clothes and other nick nacks away and use them year after year after year.
Children grow. If I saw a child in seasonal clothes at any time of the year, I just assume that the child loves it and it makes sense to get the use from it. Even after a couple of years if bought with growing room, they're still good to pass on. Some of DS2's favourite clothes were themed for Halloween and Christmas and it would be very mean to tease him with only wearing them for a few weeks, and waste them due to some arbitary notion of "good taste".

Saying that, I've been known to put my Christmas jumper on during particularly cold days in June for a laugh when it's felt more like December and I wanted cheering up.

My only judgement with children and clothing is if they were not given an opportunity to wear something weather appropriate. (Having a hot blooded trouser-refuser, my duty is to provide the options and inform about the weather forecast). Or doing stupid things like taking a child to soft play/ playground in a huge pastel, ploofy dress and inhibiting their ability to play because of the clothing. (I'd have taken a spare practical option if it had been the child's insistance)

Ny24 · 03/01/2024 20:09

Ladybrrrd · 03/01/2024 20:02

The problem is how you wrote it. OTHER children were wearing monstrosities. OTHER child were wearing tatt. YOUR DC was in warm, fresh, clean, clothes.

Perhaps you should think about how you find across.

The problem is how you selective chose to read it because what I actually said was - 'I don't judge the monstrosity of outfits people send their kids in because I TOTALLY GET IT - it's nursery - and everything comes home covered in paint and tomato sauce'.

OP posts:
tiredmama23 · 04/01/2024 07:18

@Ny24 hahaha ok. I mean, it ls amusing the way you attempt to justify judgement laden descriptions such as "monstrosity" as "just an observation, a fact" 🤣

I mean, I could announce loudly that a colleague's hair looks like shit - then justify with "just a fact, an observation". Clearly though, as any reasonable person would be aware, I'm being a judgemental arse if I were to think or say that, and trying to pass it off as "fact" would be the height of superiority.

FYI - your judgements (sorry, "observations"), are NOT the same as objective fact.

tiredmama23 · 04/01/2024 07:19

Of course, you're more than entitled to your opinion/ judgement of an outfit choice as a "monstrosity"! But don't say it's the same as a fact. It's not.

tiredmama23 · 04/01/2024 07:22

A judgment is when you attach meaning and reasoning behind it which I don't.

Not according to the Cambridge dictionary (see screenshot). Judgement is your opinion of something. There is no requirement to "attach a meaning" for it to meet that definition.

Nursery: Christmas jumper
PurBal · 04/01/2024 07:23

It’s still Christmas… so… most people celebrate until twelfth night. The hardcore continue until Candlemas (2 February).

Bellaboo01 · 04/01/2024 10:39

Lots of things are Christmassy in November.

  • Town Christmas lights are turned on.
  • Christmas shopping
  • Christmas parties
  • Plans for Christmas
  • Christmas items and displays in shops
  • Lots of stuff!!

Tbh - I would never wear Christmas clothes jumpers after Christmas so I wouldn’t put my child in it either.

Ny24 · 04/01/2024 10:44

@tiredmama23 as you believe. You are free to judge my post despite me rephrasing, re-explaining, re-trying with my point - that's cool - you're a black and white person with no room for someone saying 'i didn't mean it like that, this is how it was intended'. All I can say is 'ok'.

But I would say your screenshot definition actually supports what I'm saying not the opposite.

A judgement - is say what a jury do after careful deliberation. It's a noun. It means to make a considered decision or a considered opionion - you cannot make a considered decision without attaching reasoning behind it - as your screenshot describes 'after thinking carefully' - which is what I was saying 'I haven't been doing that'. You've used the Cambridge dictionary to more formally describe exactly what I was saying.

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Ny24 · 04/01/2024 10:58

Bellaboo01 · 04/01/2024 10:39

Lots of things are Christmassy in November.

  • Town Christmas lights are turned on.
  • Christmas shopping
  • Christmas parties
  • Plans for Christmas
  • Christmas items and displays in shops
  • Lots of stuff!!

Tbh - I would never wear Christmas clothes jumpers after Christmas so I wouldn’t put my child in it either.

This is why I started the thread. I respect the honesty. It's not something I really thought about, but it's good to get a handle on how many parents might think it's very odd my kid is wearing Christmas stuff in Jan/Feb!

OP posts:
Bellaboo01 · 04/01/2024 11:10

Ny24 · 04/01/2024 10:58

This is why I started the thread. I respect the honesty. It's not something I really thought about, but it's good to get a handle on how many parents might think it's very odd my kid is wearing Christmas stuff in Jan/Feb!

Each to their own I suppose.

Would you wear a Christmas Jumper out in Feb/March etc? I personally wouldn’t. Therefore I wouldn’t put my child in one.

I might be ott though but, that’s how I am and I would think it was odd if anyone was wearing a Christmas jumper at anytime other that the Christmas period.

it is also adds to what makes it special I suppose x

Onelifeonly · 04/01/2024 11:11

Have confidence in your own decisions! Who cares what everyone else thinks? We all have our varied views. You have your reasons, so ignore the comments - not that there should be any - or tell the truth "it's a lovely jumper and he has hardly had any wear out of it".

Plus I don't think the nursery worker was making a negative comment - just an observation. It IS kind of surprising to see Christmas jumpers after Christmas just because it is, but it's hardly an insult to mention it. It's your insecurity, evidenced by starting this thread, that read the comment as judgemental.

You also seem hyper aware of what the other kids wear. That's all part of your problem, since you think everyone else will notice your child and judge you.

Unfortunately a lot of responses here seem to agree it's wrong to wear a Christmas jumper in January. However, it really isn't that 'deep' as the teens say. How do you know whether these posters are even parents of young children or have Christmas jumpers themselves? Some people like to provoke and wind others up.

Ny24 · 04/01/2024 11:28

Bellaboo01 · 04/01/2024 11:10

Each to their own I suppose.

Would you wear a Christmas Jumper out in Feb/March etc? I personally wouldn’t. Therefore I wouldn’t put my child in one.

I might be ott though but, that’s how I am and I would think it was odd if anyone was wearing a Christmas jumper at anytime other that the Christmas period.

it is also adds to what makes it special I suppose x

No, I wouldn't wear a Christmas jumper out on a Saturday shopping, but I would if the house was chilly and I was doing some DIY, painting, gardening, cleaning (although slightly different because I'm not growing - so my Christmas jumpers can be worn next year) but you get the jist there are clothes that I wear for doing messy things in that I don't wear to go to a restaurant.

But this is how I view the clothes are worn at nursery - they're outside playing, painting, doing crafts and need clothes you don't mind them getting messy in.

Fair isle jumpers though - I will wear mine until the weather turns out shopping, to restaurants and all sorts because they're lovely winter jumpers.

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Natsku · 04/01/2024 11:35

Nothing wrong with a child wearing a Christmas jumper to nursery in January, February, March... (might start being a bit too warm for a thick jumper after that!). My child doesn't have any Christmas jumpers but he wears his Christmas pyjamas almost all year round (too hot for them in summer), and he has a Christmas shirt that I will be sending him to nursery in when it reaches the top of the pile of shirts in his cupboard. He also wears his halloween shirt when its not halloween, or even October.

Bellaboo01 · 04/01/2024 11:38

Each to their own then. I would think it’s odd, you wouldn’t.

Your choice so dress yourself and your child so dress how you choose.

Kalevala · 04/01/2024 12:36

I might be ott though but, that’s how I am and I would think it was odd if anyone was wearing a Christmas jumper at anytime other that the Christmas period.

It's very common to wear a Christmas jumper outside the Christmas period. Christmas Jumper day is in early December.

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