@mapleriver "I think the new age attitude of acting like 60 is the new 30 is all well and good until people take it to the extreme and don't invest enough in relationships with their grown up children because they cant sacrifice the gym/drinking/meals/trips to help their kids out with grandkids or just spend some genuine quality time without talking about how much they love socialising and how limber they are despite their age and who said what. No people aren't entitled to help with their kids from their parents, but at the same time older people aren't entitled to help with technology/lifts places when they're too old to drive/sorting the shopping out but most of the time it will be expected once they get to that stage."
That's a horrible attitude. 'Older' people (and 60 is not old; most of us still have years of working life ahead of us!) are not there for your convenience just because you chose to have children!
Do you seriously think that, when people get to an age where they're freed from the ties of raising children and working, we shouldn't be 'allowed' to, you know, have some time carved out for ourselves before we fucking die??!!
I don't have any gc yet. When/if I do, I hope to have a close relationship with them, just as my parents did with my kids - even though they were never in a position to mind them, as we lived too far away.
Sorry lady but I am DONE with 'sacrificing'!!! AND I don't need my tech sorted, I can drive my own car, and I can do my own shopping perfectly well for myself. When/if I need help, I can pay for it, the same as I did childcare... Though my children don't expect some form of 'tit for tat' like so many here seem to espouse...
What a load of stereotyped, ageist, utter bollocksology has been spouted throughout this thread!!