To think there's too much left wing dissonance

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Feminist but support women hating philosophies and cultures
LGBT friendly except for the L part
Want to make minorities feel safe except for the Jewish community
Believe in the NHS but go private when needed
Think we should continue atoning for colonialism but mention Germany and WW2 and its like....move on already
Hate unearned privilege but it's handy I'll be left a property
Applaud multiculturalism but seek out monoculturalism in my holidays
Avoid palm oil as it kills trees but I must have a Christmas tree
Eat vegan because factory farming is disgusting....except the stuff that goes into my rescue cat food
Believe women shouldn't kneel to the standards and demands of the patriarchy, but I still remove my body hair, its my choice after all

Organisations such as the College of Policing, the NHS, universities have all swung behind this misogyny and homophobia and are not listening when told to stop.

I imagine they are all being given substantial donations by whichever billionaires support Stonewall. I have no proof of this but I can’t understand otherwise how Stonewall have wielded such power.

It’s not those institutions that have received substantial donations, those have gone into Tory party coffers.

It’s not those institutions that have received substantial donations, those have gone into Tory party coffers.

Has Stonewall donated to the Tory Party?

The former head of it did. Millions.

@TempestTost what do people in Canada do then, if there are no state-funded dentists but also no private provision?

I was mainly referring to the discussion and views above on this thread being slightly contradictory in that many posters state they are left wing but have no problem with private provision. I wonder why they consider themselves socialists then?

walkingwashingmachine - I think so long as you say you vote Labour and/or hate Tories you can get away with any hypocrisy. Mummyford’s post in which she says she uses private healthcare, private education and was a nondom but it’s ok because she’s a socialist has provoked little or no criticism from Labour supporters on this thread. (However maybe they realised it was satire so didn’t bother taking her up on her hypocrisy).

Blossomtoes I didn’t know that - how shocking. Have Stonewall also made substantial donations to the Labour Party?

There are a few very pro Labour posters who talk about using private school or other

Maybe they are paid by the state for work or other so it’s a more personal benefit. I don’t really get the hypocrisy

Maybe very few Labour voters send their kids to private schools?

Maybe they are paid by the state for work or other so it’s a more personal benefit.

I don’t understand this sentence.

Agree.

The Tory's don't even know what they stand for. Some may or not like this more centric version of Labour but I feel I know what they stand for and that matters to me.

Didn’t you? I thought it was a waste of money

No, I didn’t, mine was entirely state educated. My (Tory) bloke sent one of his, he regrets it.

I think that's evidenced by the fact that Rishi lost out to Liz Truss in the last membership election.

He was clearly a stronger candidate who after all was Chancellor. Thought there might have been some racist bias in the membership against voting for him.

Would love to be proved wrong though and for KB to get in.

Because it is the only thing that the right wing have as an argument against a labour govt. Yet they forget which party has been in power for the last 13 years when all this trans nonsense started.

It's all smoke and mirrors. Most women will not make a decision of such magnitude as who should be running our country based on a piece of ideology. And if they do, then they deserve the rotten Tories back again.

She is very popular with grassroots Tories, I assure you. And I am neither pale, stale nor male.

My prediction is that Farage will be the next but one Tory leader. I must put some money on it.

See I don't think that the Tories have a racism/woman issue - the front bench is pretty diverse, the PM is an Asian man and they have had also had two female PMs (not counting Liz Truss that is!).

Labour have an endless parade of middle aged, white males.

I think that KB has a good chance - hope so anyway!

I imagine they are all being given substantial donations by whichever billionaires support Stonewall. I have no proof of this but I can’t understand otherwise how Stonewall have wielded such power.

Erm,do you know how the public sector is funded?

Erm,do you know how the public sector is funded

Taxes? But donations are also made.

Hope I’m dead before that happens.

It's all smoke and mirrors. Most women will not make a decision of such magnitude as who should be running our country based on a piece of ideology. And if they do, then they deserve the rotten Tories back again

Love how the Labour woksecolds like to tell women off for caring about their basic rights and not caving in to the demands of unpleasant men and organisations breaking the law. Fuck that.

On Kemi B my impressively old Tory tweedy great uncle thought she was very good and pro her being the next leader. Declared her "sensible".

Despises Sunak however, and was disparaging of his parents origins, and declared his Indian connections "suspect".

He is as Tory as they come; but hates Sunak and thinks Farage a fool. Anecdata of course but he's one of those voting for the next leader of the opposition.

Nope. No donations. Entirely from taxes.
The money raised during the pandemic that we were told was for the NHS was actually for charities.
I'd quite welcome a random billionaire donating to the NHS at this point. The govt just seem intent on raising any money we've got left that is supposed to be used for patient care to fill a deficit that they caused through nit funding us properly in the first place. But yay, apparently they know what a woman is 🙄

Now that would be awful.