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Should I have Left Son with ED Alone?

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autologo · 26/12/2023 10:32

I have mixed feelings about a situation that occurred yesterday, so I would appreciate a fresh perspective.

My 22 year old son lives with me. He has a serious eating disorder, so Christmas is hard for him. However, we were invited to join my sister for Christmas lunch.

I wanted to go to the lunch, and I discussed the visit with my son. He did not want to go, and I accepted that a noisy event, centred around food, may be a bit much for him. We agreed that I would go, and then we would have our usual meal together when I returned.

The Christmas meal was fantastic. I did not eat much because I would be eating later with my son, but I really enjoyed the company and seeing my elderly mother (95) and new great niece together. Times like these are precious.

About two hours into the event, my son phoned me. He told me he had eaten everything in the house, including food I had 'hidden' (that was our meal!) and he wanted me to come back home. He said he had been making himself sick (he has bulimia). The food was basic stock (bread, tins of beans etc)

I do not drive, so I would have to ask someone to give me a lift and this would ruin the event, so I told my son to wait until my brother was ready to drop me off.

In another hour, my brother was ready to leave, because our mother was getting tired. He dropped me off at my house on the way back.

The scene in my house was atrocious. My son had brought bin bags in to find food that had been discarded. There was a stench of sick. There were filthy pots everywhere.

He was really upset. I talked to him. He was smashing his hand against a cupboard door and broke the door. Finally, after he had tidied up (he has to clean up his mess), he insisted on going for a walk.

He set off at 9 pm and did not return until nearly 1 am. We talked for two hours on the phone.

Although I really enjoyed the Christmas event with my sister, I just wonder if perhaps I was negligent in leaving my son alone on Christmas Day.

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CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 26/12/2023 11:07

I suffer serious bulimia and anorexia and this is one of the most difficult and stressful times of year for both, so I am not surprised and don’t blame him for his reaction nor do I think he is, in the normal sense, reaponsble any more than someone with OCD or Tourette’s is responsible for their tics. However, you can’t be his keeper and it would be totally unreasonable to expect you to be. In previous years he’d be receiving intensive hospital treatment but sadly today that doesn’t happen. I personally scrupulously clean up my own mess and would probably have binged on everything except the mean stuff and purged so I could eat with you, but each person has their own routine. Poor both of you, loads of sympathy.

PinkFrogss · 26/12/2023 11:09

Allowing any mental illness to run rampant to the point it controls others around you absolutely is though.

I don’t think that’s true at all, unfortunately there’s no help available. In my area they treat EDs if you are very underweight, or following hospital admission.

That sounds really tough OP, is he getting any help at all? BEAT have a great phone line you might find helpful for yourself. There’s also an eating disorders board on here.

Seaside3 · 26/12/2023 11:10

Personally, I wouldn't have left him. He's clearly in a very bad way, eating disorders are a mental health issue, not a choice. His behaviour didn't just start yesterday, so you knew leaving him on a day chargedcwith emotion/based around food would come with risks.

However, your question should be 'how do we minimise the risk of this happening again?' As it's too late to change what occurred yesterday.

Wishing you both luck, it's a shitty battle for all

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 26/12/2023 11:16

Don't do that to yourself. Your son has a MH issue that controls his life and his behaviour was, consciously or not, aimed at controlling yours.

You don't say what external help he has. Whatever it is he needs more. For his own sake and yours. You too need your own expert help or his issues will become yours to manage forever.

At some point you both need to acknowledge this isn't right and get the help you both need as individuals, not as mother and child.

Best of luck finding what it is you need

ElevenSeven · 26/12/2023 11:17

AuntyLouLou123 · 26/12/2023 10:44

Bulimia is not a choice.

Not getting help, and using it to try and control others, is

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 26/12/2023 11:18

Seaside3 · 26/12/2023 11:10

Personally, I wouldn't have left him. He's clearly in a very bad way, eating disorders are a mental health issue, not a choice. His behaviour didn't just start yesterday, so you knew leaving him on a day chargedcwith emotion/based around food would come with risks.

However, your question should be 'how do we minimise the risk of this happening again?' As it's too late to change what occurred yesterday.

Wishing you both luck, it's a shitty battle for all

Don't do that.

Her adult son's MH issues really are not hers to fix or to shape her life around.

I'm not saying she shouldn't care or support him but not should she subsume her life into his MH disorder. Nobody should even come close to suggesting she was in the wrong, shaming her for visiting her own family, ageing mother etc.

Unfortunatelyyes · 26/12/2023 11:19

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LuckySantangelo35 · 26/12/2023 11:20

” Nobody should even come close to suggesting she was in the wrong, shaming her for visiting her own family, ageing mother etc”

THIS!! Don’t see how anyone could possibly argue with this! This is the truth

Tacotortoise · 26/12/2023 11:20

gamerchick · 26/12/2023 10:53

Allowing any mental illness to run rampant to the point it controls others around you absolutely is though.

Even that's not a choice, necessarily, it can be the sign of a sick mind trying to assert order in the chaos.
The OP does have a choice though. She can chose not to let her son's mh entirely rule her life and she can choose to practice self care. And she should do so.

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 26/12/2023 11:21

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Stop it!

Can't you see what you are doing?

NerrSnerr · 26/12/2023 11:21

@ElevenSeven do we know he hasn't tried to access help.

Mental health services in the UK are in the gutter right now (I am a my health professional). Does he currently have support from services? He sounds massively in crisis and it really isn't as easy was 'they agreed a plan and he went back on it'.

I hope there's some help and support somewhere out there for both of you OP and today is a better day. Sounds horrific for everyone involved.

Unfortunatelyyes · 26/12/2023 11:22

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 26/12/2023 11:21

Stop it!

Can't you see what you are doing?

Why don't you actually explain your point instead?

ElevenSeven · 26/12/2023 11:22

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WestSouthWest · 26/12/2023 11:23

I don’t think you should blame yourself or feel guilty, but your son needs urgent professional help for the eating disorder. I am in recovery for an eating disorder myself and I know this time of year is very difficult for many people who struggle with eating disorders. There is a lot of food around which can be triggering and disruption to usual routines as well as stress and the expectation of being more social. Your son has not done this on purpose and he can’t control it (or he wouldn’t do it), but it’s not fair to expect 24/7 care and observation from you either. The best thing you can do for him is get him into treatment as soon as possible and reassure him that you are there to support him through this difficult time.

BlastedPimples · 26/12/2023 11:23

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NerrSnerr · 26/12/2023 11:24

Allowing any mental illness to run rampant to the point it controls others around you absolutely is though.

Imagine if treating serious and enduring mental illness what that easy.

Mental health services are none existent right now. There is just not the support out there that people need.

WhatNoRaisins · 26/12/2023 11:24

YANBU. He's and adult and you deserve to be able to live a life of your own as well as supporting him. What help is he getting for his eating disorder?

Mrsjayy · 26/12/2023 11:24

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oh have a word with yourself !

ApoodlecalledPenny · 26/12/2023 11:25

We can’t treat carers like only the person with the illness is deserving of personhood, and the carer must allow themselves to be totally subsumed under the weight of it.

Your son is not unreasonable to have an eating disorder, of course, but he is an adult, and to leave his vomit around the house is both grim and unnecessary. It does sound like he is punishing you or making a point. But you were not unreasonable to go, and he needs (for his own sake) to take some responsibility for his recovery. It could start with taking responsibility for the cleanup.

Xmasblues · 26/12/2023 11:28

YANBU this isn’t your fault at all.

He is a grown adult and needs to learn to control himself when you are not there.

I used to have an ED so I understand that it can be out of his control but his seems very extreme and I would be pushing for more help.

You doing things like going out will actually help him in the long run because it’s up to him to regulate himself.

We all have to learn to regulate ourselves and although his is going to be more challenging, it’s going to be something he needs to do when he moves out.

Tomorrow phone the gp and tell them what you’ve said on here.
He needs help, else he will never be able to live a normal life.

dancinfeet · 26/12/2023 11:29

You were not unreasonable to visit your family, as others have said- your son needs help. As @ApoodlecalledPenny has said, it sounds like he is making a point or trying to punish you.

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 26/12/2023 11:29

Unfortunatelyyes · 26/12/2023 11:22

Why don't you actually explain your point instead?

I did, in the post immediately above. You are just A N Other misguidedly trying to shame someone for no reason at all.

@autologo us getting some good advice here. Why try to shame her off to any other space?

You could simply have scrolled on by.

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 26/12/2023 11:29

He's 22 not 2. He needs to take responsibility for his own issues.

AnneValentine · 26/12/2023 11:29

there comes a point in life where we have to take responsibility for our own actions. Your son is 22. He is responsible.

doubleshotcappuccino · 26/12/2023 11:30

I'm in a different situation but similar in how dependent DS is on us because of what is going on with him at the moment . Long term this is not sustainable. Physically it will take its toll on you - also if you aren't well enough to take care of him the wheels will come off with no control. He needs support and possibly wrap around care .. this will help him start to build the scaffolding to climb out of this . If we keep supporting them as it is they won't move away from this

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