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Something sinister going on about Cocaine in the UK

273 replies

EasterBun23 · 24/12/2023 21:16

Something sinister is going on.

We all know people on Cocaine, it's very very popular, every time i go in the toilets in my local bars on the weekend there's lads in there doing and dealing it.

Recenly it was reported that the UK is the second most popular country for cocaine..

We are an Island country. (excluding NI).

How the hell is so much getting in our borders? There are sniffer dogs and checks at airports and sea ports. You can very well imagine some is getting in..

But enough to feed a population of 67million? nah

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MikeRafone · 25/12/2023 07:36

But it's certainly not 'popular' and I've never seen anyone doing it in the toilets.

I’ve never seen anyone doing a 💩 in the loo,doesn’t mean it’s not happening on a regular basis’

CostedStrikeRate · 25/12/2023 07:38

I see to know a number of dads in their 30s and 40s working in the media or arts who'd take it once or twice a year.
I no longer know them.

RampantIvy · 25/12/2023 07:43

Red0 · 25/12/2023 00:46

All those adamant they don’t know anyone who takes it… how would you know? It’s not something many go around advertising. Honestly you’re naive thinking you “don’t mix in those circles”. It’s not all 20 something lads you know, it’s professional people, manual workers, parents of young kids. I don’t “move in those circles” but I know there a lot of people I know through friends who are taking it recreationally, even in only occasionally.

I am aware that people take coke, but honestly, my friends do not. We have discussed it.

Just about all of our friends are retired from jobs that don't fit in the rampant coke taking demographic mentioned. A night out is a meal at the local Indian or fish and chips at the pub. Do people really do a line while sitting at home watching the snooker?

I don't know anyone I am friends with who goes out until the early hours. We lead such "exciting" lives these days.

RethinkingLife · 25/12/2023 07:45

A number of police forces have been drug testing individuals arrested for domestic abuse offences as part of a pilot to establish perpetrator profiles and offender rehabilitation opportunities to protect victims.
Anecdotally, the use of cocaine and alcohol have been highlighted as exacerbating factors in domestic abuse offences, and the results from pilots in seven police forces have demonstrated significant evidence to support this. In one area, nearly 85 per cent (127/150) of domestic abuse offenders arrested and drug tested, were positive for cocaine and/or opiates and overall across the pilot forces, 59 per cent of those tested were positive for cocaine and/or opiates.

Farah Nazeer is Chief Executive of Women’s Aid. She said:

“Domestic abuse is driven by the perpetrator’s desire for power and control, as well as by the inequality between men and women, and it is important to remember that drugs, including cocaine, do not cause domestic abuse.

“However, as demonstrated by this study, there is a link between domestic abuse and drug use, which can make pre-existing violence and abuse more severe. This study highlights that we need to understand how other forms of harm, such as drugs, interlink with domestic abuse - and how this can help improve protection and support for survivors.”

https://news.npcc.police.uk/releases/police-pilots-find-high-levels-of-drug-use-in-domestic-abuse-offenders

Pilots find high levels of drug use in domestic abuse offenders

Drug testing highlights cocaine as exacerbating factor in domestic abuse incidents

https://news.npcc.police.uk/releases/police-pilots-find-high-levels-of-drug-use-in-domestic-abuse-offenders

Glittertwins · 25/12/2023 07:45

I don't know anyone personally who takes cocaine but I I do know of pubs in the town where preventative measures have been taken to stop it being taken.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 25/12/2023 07:49

Interesting debate for Christmas morning ....

Yes, coke is rife in my town, spread across a wide age range from 20s through 50s. In fact anyone who regularly frequents bars and clubs.

It's partly fuelling and propping up the economy, with some businesses being fronts for the trade.

Of course there's corruption - do you really think kick backs to officials are a thing of fiction?

The real question we should be asking is why people are so unfulfilled by modern life that their default is to create an illusory high regardless of the wider cost?

If one keeps half an eye on the wider world one might recognise the bread and circuses model of the decline of our current civilisation.....

Funnily enough I caught a video on YouTube where a mover and shaker transhumanist proponent actually said that at the moment the population is controlled by drugs and gaming, which he doesn't think is ideal for humanity moving forward, but that's ok, because when they perfect the hacking of the human brain other methods of control will be used.

It is sinister and it is part of a bigger picture.

The future ain't looking very pretty from where I'm standing......

Ohwhatadag · 25/12/2023 07:53

I used to live in a fishing town. Coke was rife there. The fishermen would come back after 9 days at sea and go on the lash, taking coke so that they could drink for longer. But it wasn't just them.

I had a vague idea of coke being glamorous - images of new York club 55 and London cocktail parties (shows how much i knew!). But when you've seen 60-year-old bachelor fishermen in their wellies talking about it, that glamour has long gone 😂

Rooroobear · 25/12/2023 07:56

It’s definitely not a generational thing….i work in a pub and you would be surprised how many 40-60 year olds take it too…..coke and ket are the main ones here

Townhouselights · 25/12/2023 08:11

I know a few people who have done it in the past (maybe just once, or on a few nights out) and a couple who do it regularly now.

The two regulars are dad's in their late 30s. They actually fit the stereotypes on this thread around construction/builders/football/golf/and the 'lads' very well.

The golf has raised some bells with me as the golf is a new 'lads' activity for one of them... now I'm wondering if its a new cover 🤔

Of those who have tried it, including myself and my DH, i don't think you'd know unless we told you... parents in our 30s and 40s, well paid jobs, normal family lives... its not like you mention it over dinner and I'd only admit that I tried it to people I know wouldn't judge me for it, even though it was only once!

It's certainly not everyone by any stretch, but I do think it's going on or has been tried by more than people think.

Newsenmum · 25/12/2023 08:29

Red0 · 25/12/2023 00:47

I’m talking about people in their early to mid 40s by the way

That’s probably why. I don’t know many people in this age group. My friends are mostly early thirties.

WashItTomorrow · 25/12/2023 08:52

GarlicGiftsAndGlitter · 25/12/2023 05:23

Hahahaha! Good one 🤣🤣🤣

Merry Christmas.

Why the laughter? It’s true. I work and live in London, work in TV, and don’t know anyone who takes cocaine.

ScarlettSunset · 25/12/2023 09:01

I also don't know anyone who does cocaine - I'd imagine someone, somewhere that I have met does, but I certainly not aware of who or when etc.
I'm 49 and used to know people who thought drugs were acceptable when I was younger, but even those people never used cocaine as far as I'm aware (probably because they couldn't afford it though and other substances were available more cheaply).

jojom10 · 25/12/2023 09:14

I'm amazed how many people are saying they don't know anyone who does coke. Many of you almost certainly do. People don't always talk openly about it.

Namechanged124db · 25/12/2023 09:15

I'm early 20s. I know lots of people who have done cocaine. From 6th form onwards.

Never me though. I've seen it, but resisted the temptation.

Forgotmylogindetails · 25/12/2023 09:19

What worries me is all these people saying it doesn’t happen in their area or in their circle is the fact it could be their kids being groomed by the dirty rat dealers.

it doesn’t just happen inner city or on council estates … it’s everywhere. Open your eyes for your children’s sakes , talk to them even if you want to keep your blinkers on in your own world.

Make sure your children can talk to you , the world is a horrible place with these bastards in it.

tiger2691 · 25/12/2023 09:26

Round my way coke is popular, from age 18 to 60, more popular with some younger females than booze, They seem to prefer coke, weed and to a degree Ket. Coke is also popular with scaffolders and weirdly, painters and decorators.

doriangraybutimthepaintingintheattic · 25/12/2023 09:31

Atre · 25/12/2023 00:28

Albanians.

The UK has long had a wee dusting of marching powder. The expense only made it aspirational and Brits generally go for anything aspirational.

When the Albanians got in on it they set up buying direct from source countries so they can get loads more than came from older more convoluted supply routes.

We've got a lot of ports in a small area as we're a small country with a relatively strong shipping economy. Ports are way easier to transport drugs through than airports. A geographically small affluent island with a lot of ports is a cocaine transporters dream set-up. So it could just be that - we're the right physical and economic shape to be good market.

Wee dusting of marching powder 😂😂😂

You're right though

Gettingcolder · 25/12/2023 09:45

The rural village I grew up in during the 1970s was full of teen drug users. Then when I went to work in finance in the city, cocaine was rife amongst the ultra wealthy crowd that I mixed with. I am a smoker and tried weed and even speed at university but never took to it.

These days I mix in different circles and most of my crowd smoke weed from time to time. They are all very 'green' types and the weed is all home-grown, so they are not supporting the dealers, exploitation, etc.

I think a lot of MN users are being naive if they don't realise how prolific all drugs are in everyday life - I see use everywhere - sports clubs, the building trade, car dealers, IT and finance, the ultra wealthy playboys, etc. It is used across the full spectrum of society but it is not obvious if you are not aware of it.

quisensoucie · 25/12/2023 09:50

every time i go in the toilets in my local bars on the weekend there's lads in there doing and dealing it.

Don't go in the 'lads' lavatory then

rc22 · 25/12/2023 10:11

I'm 46. I don't know anyone who does it now but know people who did it 20/25 years ago.

RampantIvy · 25/12/2023 10:23

jojom10 · 25/12/2023 09:14

I'm amazed how many people are saying they don't know anyone who does coke. Many of you almost certainly do. People don't always talk openly about it.

I'm amazed that you think this. I think that because you do know people who do it that you think everyone else does. It isn't the case. I have no doubt that there are many people I pass on the street or who drink in our local or who work in my workplace do so, but I don't know them and am not friends with them.

I am talking about people I am close to, not random strangers. Our circle of friends is quite small.

Namechanged124db · 25/12/2023 10:35

When I was in 6th form someone I had a really really big crush on someone who was teetotal in year 12.

But after their 18th birthday. I remember they changed. Went clubbing and started drinking (which is normal). But then I remembered them just casually talking about taking class As and getting high etc.

Alcyoneus · 25/12/2023 10:43

Organized crime like drug trafficking or illegal migration cannot take place without people in the highest positions actively facilitating it.

Politicians, elected public officials, civil servants. If the wanted to stop it, they could stop it tomorrow.

I’m not talking about the dude who runs your local council or even you local MP (even though a lot of scummy MPs have form of low level corruption). It’s the ones at the highest levels of police, border force, home office, security services, civil service administration that are making a mint out of organized crime.

Namechanged124db · 25/12/2023 10:44

Alcyoneus · 25/12/2023 10:43

Organized crime like drug trafficking or illegal migration cannot take place without people in the highest positions actively facilitating it.

Politicians, elected public officials, civil servants. If the wanted to stop it, they could stop it tomorrow.

I’m not talking about the dude who runs your local council or even you local MP (even though a lot of scummy MPs have form of low level corruption). It’s the ones at the highest levels of police, border force, home office, security services, civil service administration that are making a mint out of organized crime.

So what do you think the national crime agency does everyday?

VickyEadieofThigh · 25/12/2023 12:08

EasterBun23 · 24/12/2023 21:25

I bet you probably do know someone.

Gov figures? How does the government get these figures? Did they run a telephone poll and ask if they do drugs? lol

Which of my friends and family are you thinking of?