Trans women do not have periods.

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According to period pants maker Modibodi, transwomen can have 'periods'. Periods which are just as valid apparently.

Whilst I'm not going to suggest I know what hormone treatment tied to a trans woman, I can confidently say that no, they don't have periods. Periods involve blood. Trans women don't bleed.

Modibodi seem to acknowledge that there is no bleeding involved I transwomen's 'periods' but bizarrely under a section on how to manage their periods, trans women should wear period pants. For the life of all God's WHY???! Wtf would wear period pants if they didn't have to?

@brainworms

read the blog then…..

”This bit?

Do trans women have periods?
Many trans women have periods. Some trans women don’t have uteruses, so they won’t bleed as part of a monthly menstrual cycle. But the hormonal experience of menstruation can still be very real.
Some trans women undergo gender-affirming treatment in the form of feminising hormones. These hormones can result in a range of physical and emotional symptoms, including:
• Anxiety
• Appetite changes
• Bloating due to water retention
• Cramping
• Tiredness and fatigue
• Listlessness
• Mood swings
These symptoms may occur at the same time each month, just like premenstrual syndrome (PMS). For many trans women, this is their period.
Having a period feels totally normal and fine for many trans women. Some even find it deeply cathartic and validating. But if your period symptoms are upsetting you, chat with your doctor about adjusting your hormonal regime so that it doesn’t trigger a noticeable cycle.
Your ovarian cycle and menstrual cycle phases explained
Curious to learn more about your menstrual cycle and ovarian cycle? Find out what happens in your body during the four menstrual phases.
https://www.modibodi.co.uk/blogs/wo

@brainworms

or this bit?

“How some trans women get their period
Yes, anyone can get their period trans woman included”

@brainworms

or this bit!

From that link

How to support trans women during their period. Being a good ally to trans women during their period means being respectful, understanding and supportive. Here are some key ways to be there for them:

• Be kind towards the trans women in your life, and acknowledge their experience as women. Respect their names, pronouns and bodies.
• Create a safe space for them to share their feelings and concerns. Sometimes, all we need is a friend who gets it, so listen with an open mind and heart.
• Educate yourself about trans experiences, including menstruation, and help correct misinformation. (TransHub, Twenty10 and local LGBTQIA+ community centres are good places to start.)
• Avoid asking invasive or personal questions that may make someone uncomfortable.
• Practice patience and empathy. Remember, everyone’s experience is unique, so it’s always better to ask questions than make assumptions.

@brainworms

or this.

Tips for navigating your period as a trans woman. Here are some top tips for managing your period as a trans woman:

• Track your hormonal cycle: Use a tracker app like Clue to keep tabs on your cycle and any related symptoms. This is a quick and easy way to feel more prepared and in control.
• Wear period underwear: By offering a sense of comfort, freedom and security, period underwear can help you feel comfortable, affirmed and empowered throughout your cycle. Check out our Women’s briefs and All Gender collection.

no knee jerk reaction.

In those quotes the transwomen freely admit they don't bleed so no need to get offended on their behalf.

I'm curious what the powers at be for modibodi really think about all this, because to me it seems like such a money grab to knowingly market something to people everyone knows don't actually need it.

I'm a non-binary person.

Not the kind with a penis, the other kind.

I'm a non-binary person.

Not the kind with a penis, the other kind.

😂

If only there was a word for that…

This is not being goady, genuinely I’d like an explanation of non-binary.

Would I be right thinking that it’s, for example, a female sexed person who does not want to adhere to or want people to treat them as their biological sex’s stereotype. so they don’t feel like the stereotype of societies idea of a woman?

If so, I fit that category, with my dress sense, lack of make up, hair style, career and outlook. But, I would just count myself as woman and a feminist.

if this is completely inaccurate I’d love to hear an actual definition of what it means to be non-binary that differs from mine.

Well we could invent a new word for it but I don't think it would be long before some people with penises started claiming to identify as that.

And this is the crux of the issue really, isn't it?

Calling someone a trans woman if it is clear to everyone that they are a man who prefers to present as a woman and that's OK most of the time unless issues of safety or fairness are concerned is one thing.

But "trans women are women" and "trans women are female" and "trans women have periods" just demonstrates the truth of the matter, which is that some people don't believe women should be able to have any words for themselves or even words for their body parts and bodily functions which aren't inclusive of them.

That's not a reasonable request, it was never a reasonable request, they didn't even request it but just imposed it on us, and it's really time for the whole of society to grow some balls/ovaries and say, "No. Not everything is for you. Not everything is about you. Not everything should include you. I'm sorry you find that upsetting but you are going to have to find a way to deal with your disappointment."

As far as I can work out, a non binary person is someone who mistakenly believes that everyone else conforms to regressive gender stereotypes.

So does that mean if you go to a country say, where the women wear trousers and are CEOs, and the men wear makeup and look after the babies, you become ‘binary’?

I always thought ‘binary’ was a lot of 111000…

Gentle pisstaking aside, @brainworms.

You're a non binary person with a uterus. I'm a woman with a uterus.

What do you believe is the difference between you and me?

This is excellent - thank you
I absolutely welcome and value my Trans sisters but there are some places and experiences that can only belong to women who were born female. It’s wrong and dismissive of those experiences to try to claim them.
Equally, there are some experiences that can only belong to trans women - for instance the transition process, the process of coming out.

@runningpram they are not your sisters. They are men.

Men should be more welcoming to their non conforming brothers.

Have a read about AGP before you expect the rest of us women to budge up and accept these males into our spaces.

Yes people with dysphoria deserve kindness and help, it doesn't make them the opposite sex.

I have to say I don't really understand what @runningpram is getting at.

Saying that some places and experiences belong only to female people would get you labelled a TERF by many of those "trans sisters".

I don't think people would be getting their knickers in a twist about trans people if it weren't for the fact that the trans activist movement is trying to force women to include trans women in places and experiences that belong only to female people. That is literally what most of us are objecting to.

The phrase "trans sisters" makes my teeth itch a bit because it feels like forced teaming to me. I feel a form of sisterhood on a basic level with all women worldwide because of our shared experience based on our biology. I don't feel any kind of sisterhood with trans women at all, and I don't believe it is wrong to say that. You can't make people feel things they don't feel.

So when you say you welcome and value your trans sisters, what does that mean? I am happy to welcome and value trans women in the same circumstances and situations where I would be equally happy to welcome and value men. That doesn't include any women's spaces.

Sisters and brothers - how very ‘religious-y’ wording there.

People are not entitled to their own biological or medical truth. I am supportive of people living how they choose until it comes to having your own facts and claiming that others are behaving in a discriminatory way towards you of they point out that these "facts" are just made up. I'm sure I am not alone in being tired of this and dismayed that the insistence on making these ridiculous claims is just giving the right-wing nutcases in this country the fuel they need to get support for their oppressive laws.

Modibodi are a business trying to make money. They will say or do anything that increases sales and if that means telling everyone that transwomen have periods when they don't because it increases sales then they will do it if not prevented from doing so.

No, transwomen do not have periods, they do not menstruate, they do not need menstrual products. If you believe they do, you need to learn more about how the human body works.

You'd know that if you'd read beyond your initial knee jerk.

We do know that. As you'd know if you'd read beyond your initial.knee jerk, @brainworms

Read The Link.

https://www.modibodi.co.uk/blogs/womens/transwomen-period?

(If you're still struggling, concentrate on paragraphs 2 and 8.)

I don't think people would be getting their knickers in a twist about trans people if it weren't for the fact that the trans activist movement is trying to force women to include trans women in places and experiences that belong only to female people. That is literally what most of us are objecting to.

That and the promotion of restrictive gender stereotypes and all the instances where people use the cover of trans rights to assert power over women, and the astonishing number of men who do this and then also have a social media account demonstrating that their identity is part of a fetish.

Trans women have periods if you completely redefine period so that it’s nothing to do with the lining of the uterus and instead make it something that they can feel ‘included’ about such as bleeding from the surgery used to remove their penis. I mean, there’s no point in not telling the truth about these things. Periods are biological, not gender concepts. The only way trans women bleed into a towel or tampon is from some sort of cut / healing taking place on a surgically created vagina. Anything else is a product of imagination. Fascinated to hear the arguments against this being the case so bring them on.

@BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn yeah, exactly as I said. None of that is a ‘period.’ That’s nothing to do with menstrual bleeding. That’s redefining what a period is so it includes the side effects of men taking female hormones. No womb, no bleeding = not a period.

Wow this thread is still going.

Maybe there are… more important things going on? Yes it seems a bit ‘silly’ but if period pants are more comfortable then maybe just let transwomen wear them?
Pretty sure the (very few) transwomen I’ve met wouldn’t want anyone else to know what underwear they’re wearing. These threads are something else.

Let’s also not attack people who label themselves as non binary. No I don’t get it either, but there is so much nastiness laced in this.

More important than letting our daughters read stuff like that on the modibodi website and then be confused as to what a period actually is?
how are women supposed to spot irregular bleeding, missed periods etc if a period is not just the bleeding part?
I feel ‘periody’ from ovulation to my period starting, does that mean I actually have a 3 week long period?
im disappointed in modi bodi and M&S do decent period pants for anyone interested in changing too