Trans women do not have periods.

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According to period pants maker Modibodi, transwomen can have 'periods'. Periods which are just as valid apparently.

Whilst I'm not going to suggest I know what hormone treatment tied to a trans woman, I can confidently say that no, they don't have periods. Periods involve blood. Trans women don't bleed.

Modibodi seem to acknowledge that there is no bleeding involved I transwomen's 'periods' but bizarrely under a section on how to manage their periods, trans women should wear period pants. For the life of all God's WHY???! Wtf would wear period pants if they didn't have to?

But do transwomen (or trans women, can never remember which is the way to write it)
BLEED?

You need a uterus that sheds its lining after not being impregnated to bleed.

Men do not have that, it is part of the female reproductive organs. Only women bleed from menstruation, unless you know something the rest of us don’t?
(I’m not goady. I am pretty sure transwomen don’t bleed at all, but am curious what you meant here.)

This is the kind of shit said too - yes it is the BITCHINESS which tells them they are experiencing menstruation feelings. Tess is a trans woman.

"On period-tracking apps:
As they started noticing PMS symptoms coming every month, many of the women we spoke to started using period-tracking apps to know when to expect mood swings or cramping. “I'm in the process of trying to map something, because I'm noticing that there are some weeks when I’m just feeling bitchy. I don't want to be, but I can't help it. And it seems to be cyclical,” Tess says. She’s started using a period tracker to track her symptoms, and while she’s had to disable some of the features — she doesn’t care about ovulation or whether or not she might be pregnant — she’s able to see the emotional cycle. "

https://periodaisle.com/blogs/all/6-transgender-women-talk-menstruation

Oh and yes we have to be careful what we say to them....

"On clueless things cisgender women say (but shouldn’t):
“The only negative emotions I’ve had relating to periods is when cis women tell me I’m ‘lucky’ for not having them,” Mia says. She understands that it’s meant to be a joke about how terrible periods are, but it’s a hurtful comment nonetheless. “If I had a choice of my body having a period or not I’d choose not, but if you take a second to think about why I don’t have one it’s because my body can’t bear children. There’s nothing ‘lucky’ about that,” she says. "

Same reference as above.

and more shite...WTF?

"Meghan’s period confidant is her wife, who will notice her mood swings and make fun of her. “She’ll say ‘I know you're on your period because you’re being moody, you're emotional,’' Meghan says. She says comments like this feel “strangely validating” and “wonderful.”"

Yes I saw that when I did a quick search to see what else was being said of trans women and periods.

Bitchiness and something about being cat called and talked over

@OceanicBoundlessness it's like me saying I want to be a transman so that I can be aggressive , socially dominant and be emotionless! 🙄

yes. And posters keep posting ‘where is the harm’? Perpetuating the ‘bitchy’ narrative is fucked up. And so to is this ‘ mood swings’ narrative. These male people are choosing to take hormones that will cause these supposed moments. There is no need for them to take these cycling hormones. They choose to.

That is misogynistic. They are mocking women and girls reality with the paragraphs posted above.

That is another layer of harm right there.

I could be wrong, but I think that CatMadam meant that she is a survivor of rape by a female.

This bit:

“If I had a choice of my body having a period or not I’d choose not, but if you take a second to think about why I don’t have one it’s because my body can’t bear children. There’s nothing ‘lucky’ about that,” she says. "

That is so unbelievably hurtful.

I've been ttc for a good while and all four conceptions I've achieved have miscarried. I'm a biological woman who has a body that is DESIGNED to bear children, but so far have not been able to.

These people are going to rue the day this pain turns to anger.

@CatMadam
Can you answer @MargotBamborough

I'm sorry that happened to you.

Do you think that you and other female rape survivors should have the right to access female only support, i.e. a group which is not inclusive of trans women?

Absolutely this! My 12 year old daughter is constantly being told by her shit of a Dad (thankfully I'm divorced) that every time she shows an emotion, it's because she's on her period, or it's her hormones etc etc etc. I'm having to invest huge amounts of energy into teaching her why this rhetoric isn't ok and has been used to keep women 'in their place' for a long time.

And then I read shit like that linked article. This is such a damaging view.

This post seems goady / transphobic for the sake of it :( I’ve looked at the website and there is nothing to suggest that they are trying to market their products towards people with male genitals.

Read the entire website did you? Thought not…

This bit?

Do trans women have periods?
Many trans women have periods. Some trans women don’t have uteruses, so they won’t bleed as part of a monthly menstrual cycle. But the hormonal experience of menstruation can still be very real.
Some trans women undergo gender-affirming treatment in the form of feminising hormones. These hormones can result in a range of physical and emotional symptoms, including:
• Anxiety
• Appetite changes
• Bloating due to water retention
• Cramping
• Tiredness and fatigue
• Listlessness
• Mood swings
These symptoms may occur at the same time each month, just like premenstrual syndrome (PMS). For many trans women, this is their period.
Having a period feels totally normal and fine for many trans women. Some even find it deeply cathartic and validating. But if your period symptoms are upsetting you, chat with your doctor about adjusting your hormonal regime so that it doesn’t trigger a noticeable cycle.

@mrsclaus1984 This bit?

From that link

How to support trans women during their periodBeing a good ally to trans women during their period means being respectful, understanding and supportive. Here are some key ways to be there for them:

• Be kind towards the trans women in your life, and acknowledge their experience as women. Respect their names, pronouns and bodies.
• Create a safe space for them to share their feelings and concerns. Sometimes, all we need is a friend who gets it, so listen with an open mind and heart.
• Educate yourself about trans experiences, including menstruation, and help correct misinformation. (TransHub, Twenty10 and local LGBTQIA+ community centres are good places to start.)
• Avoid asking invasive or personal questions that may make someone uncomfortable.
• Practice patience and empathy. Remember, everyone’s experience is unique, so it’s always better to ask questions than make assumptions.

I agree. It is incredibly dismissive of the both reality and past and current opression of women around the world of the constant dismissal of our emotions because we have PMT.

I cannot see this as anything but fetishisation by these male people.

You are getting all outraged but have misread the whole blog. It state quite clearly that transWOMEN have periods and although they don't bleed they should wear period pants to feel secure. There are countless links to this page on this thread.

@CatMadam stating transwomen don't bleed therefore have no need for period pants is not transphobic.

Do you know what a trans woman is?

Funny how often women's anger is linked to our hormones, but that's never the case with men, isn't it? Yet testosterone is linked to aggression and anger issues.

Well, I'm loving your posts...

All of them. Followed shortly by the point to the evidence posters.... (She has: about 7 times already you doofus)

There's none so blind as those who won't see.

Maybe, but that shouldn't stop @CatMadam from answering the question.

It goes to show that the "I believe in being kind to people" shtick is a load of bullshit. It goes right out of the window the moment it becomes necessary to acknowledge that trans women are not women in order to avoid causing serious harm to women.

LOL 🙄🤣

Non-binary person here. I have periods because I was born with a uterus and all that jazz. Trans men who have not had a hysterectomy, can still have periods.

You'd know that if you'd read beyond your initial knee jerk.

No, trans women do not have periods. There are hormonal fluctuations that happen throughout the month, but there is no bleeding. They are not the same thing.

Tell that to Modibodi, who have a whole section on their website about how trans women do have periods and we should be kind to them and not express any scepticism about how you can have a period without a uterus.

It's so boring when people don't even skim read the thread.