Trans women do not have periods.

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According to period pants maker Modibodi, transwomen can have 'periods'. Periods which are just as valid apparently.

Whilst I'm not going to suggest I know what hormone treatment tied to a trans woman, I can confidently say that no, they don't have periods. Periods involve blood. Trans women don't bleed.

Modibodi seem to acknowledge that there is no bleeding involved I transwomen's 'periods' but bizarrely under a section on how to manage their periods, trans women should wear period pants. For the life of all God's WHY???! Wtf would wear period pants if they didn't have to?

I’ve said that basically every comment on this whole thread is very clearly transphobic

I'm only seeing statements of reality. Is reality transphobic?

It's not exactly clear if you can't give even one example. This is what I absolutely hate about TRA's. There's not even an attempt to justify or explain or get into any reasoned debate or give any examples of transphobia. It's just 'wah wah waaaah, you're transphobic, it's clear to see, all the comments are transphobic!!'.

I've asked about a million times on here and on another group, please attempt to explain WHAT IS TRANSPHOBIC and I've yet to receive a well reasoned, well argued answer.

Just like the word woman, the meaning of transphobia has been changed to suit an ideology, that no one needs to believe in if they don't want to. It's not transphobic to state trans women are not women because it's factually true. Why are fully grown functioning adults buying into this nonsense.

Oh for goodness sake, no I didn’t. ‘Terf’ is not a derogatory slur.

I remember reading that one group considered it transphobic that trans people were not allowed to surgically operate on each other.

There are many personal definitions of what is considered transphobic. Just saying the word in relation to what others write is not necessarily the reflection of the truth.

It is really just like when male people describe themselves as women or as girls. They have no concept of what that is because they are male people. All they have is their own perception of what a woman or girl is or is not. Hence, they are not women or girls. Because they are only emulating and living how they perceive a woman or a girl lives their life. The reality is that they are rejecting living how they perceive a man or a boy lives. That is only thing that they are able to do. Even with surgery and hormones, it is only ever about rejecting what they perceive how a man or boy lives.

yes. It is. Just because you don't want to believe it is, doesn't make it not a slur. There is even a court judgement describing it as such.

I'm sorry that happened to you.

Do you think that you and other female rape survivors should have the right to access female only support, i.e. a group which is not inclusive of trans women?

You sure about that?

www.terfisaslur.com

These threads always make me laugh- pages on pages of genuine seething hatred against trans people, than hand-wringing and great offence when the innocuous word ‘terf’ appears. I can’t see anything online about a court judgment over the word?

"Seething hatred". Another claim for which citations (a LOT, as you refer to "pages on pages") are needed, please.

The case in question is the Harry Miller case, I believe. The judge ruled that terf is a derogatory slur.

But again, your own interpretation is based on a deep prejudice that you hold about people who disagree with you. Great that you find people’s response to your personal attacks funny. Again, it shows the disproportionality of your response.

People are stating clearly the harms of not pushing back on brands acting in this way. All you have done is denigrate, derogate and demonise those who don’t share what seems to be an ideological belief of yours. By all means, continue. But I don’t think your approach convinces many people. I am sure it makes you feel good though.

This is ridiculous. Also as a woman who has nightmare periods which leave me anaemic every month then I find men pretending to have periods to be extremely distasteful.

This is what always puzzles me. Feeling 'like a woman' is infinitely subjective, so how can men possibly know they 'feel like a woman'? Or want to feel 'like a woman'? My experience of being an actual woman will vary hugely from other actual women's experiences.

I have a close female friend who is happily married with three children. But she's also a civil engineer who never wears make up, or colours her hair or wears particularly feminine clothes. Yet very few TW seem to want to adopt her female experience though?

Seething hatred? Give me strength 😂

Just bumping this question.

genuine seething hatred against trans people

Do you honestly, really think that understanding that humans can't change sex and transwomen can't have periods, and feeling annoyed that a thing that only happens to women is being appropriated and faked, equals "hate"? Why?

Can you maybe see that the transactivist lobby makes this claim - that trans people are the victims of some kind of hate campaign - so as to shut down reasonable and logical objections to certain things, such as males in female spaces making females less safe, or pushed out of their own sporting categories for example?

By regurgitating it you're just making clear that you think what you're told to without interrogating or checking it at all. And that you think accusing people of "hate" for stating facts and asking reasonable questions is actually a reasonable way to debate. It's not. It just shows you have no arguments or explanations and don't want your illogical, unevidenced position to be looked at too closely.

I don't hate trans people, and just like people who believe in astrology, crystal healing or a religion, I think they should be able to believe what they like and not be persecuted for it. However, I do take exception to women being disadvantaged and harmed by an ideology that cannot be proved and is not based on any evidence, and I don't see why I shouldn't point that out. If you looked into this you would find that many trans people themselves agree with this view too.

If Modibodi claims TW can have periods it pisses me off. A) because I have had periods and I know that no male can experience what I have, a real period - it's incredibly insulting appropriation, which you would find it easy to disapprove of if the victims of it were a different group. And B) because as PPs have explained, they are pushing a harmful ideology that harms women, gay people and children, and I disagree with that.

You might think it's "kind" to pretend TW can have periods and "validate" them in that pretence. But the fact you think it's kind shows you know they are male and can't really have a period. Women who actually have periods don't need anyone to be "kind" to them by agreeing with them, it seems?

And while you're being "kind" but do actually know that TW are male, a generation of children are now growing up being told that you CAN change sex, and that if you are trans you can be as much the opposite sex as any real member of it, and all they have to do is choose. They will believe TW can really have perionds. There are children and young people transitioning (and some detransitioning) who are saying they thought they could just grow their breasts or their penis back again if they wanted. They thought they would really be the opposite sex and are devastated to realise they aren't. They didn't realise their sexual function would be removed, or that they wouldn't be able to have a baby. That's because of this insane drive to pretend that TWAW and TMAM and it's "transphobic" to say otherwise.

Not being able to talk about the truth is really harmful.

Can you not understand why this looks like fetishisation of periods? If it’s not fetishisation if periods, what is it? Do you not think women should be able to talk about this?

Apologies if somebody has already offered an alternative explanation, but if one exists I would be grateful if you could provide it.

Seriously, seething hatred? Get a grip.
Take out any biology, physiology or anatomy book in your local library and open the pages referencing sex and reproduction.

It's all documented 100% irrefutable FACT.

Are the biology books also transphobic?
Should they all be burned and outlawed as they are not "kind" to trans people?

NOTHING stated in this thread is anything other than stating fact, which is that trans women are men, remain biologically male, do not have periods and are not women or female.

FACTS ARE NOT TRANSPHOBIC.
FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS.

Hiding your head in the sand of this ideology and shouting "la la la" does not change the facts.

If it’s not fetishisation if periods, what is it?

This is an excellent question

The bottom line is that reality IS 'transphobic'. Ie won't bow to TRA delusions.

Rather than wrap their heads around this, they're shooting us messengers for pointing it out.

It all looks to me like widespread systematic and business-led abuse of children and yes, trans identified people. Women are collateral damage. Who gives a toss about women?

Surgeons and doctors are getting rich "yeeting the teets". Pharmaceutical companies are rubbing their hands in joy at the lifelong patients created for their products. Businesses such as Modibodi and Tampax and Body Shop want a slice of that. It's body modification and sexual fetishism as a commercial product.

Every single comment?

"Yes it does suggest they buy some as they might find it validating. Fancy a large company preying on some emotionally vulnerable people like that too make a few more sales."

Of course I paraphrased they actually used the words empowering and affirming.. However, I'm not sure how being concerned about people being taken advantage of and sold things they have no need for by a large company is transphobic?

I can't recall anyone needing to 'be kind' to me when I had a period? And sometimes the cramps were so severe that I would vomit, and often ended up with a blistering migraine. But somehow TW don't seem to want 'those' sort of periods, or experience them? Pushing the 'be kind' agenda for TW supposedly having periods is just patronising them because we know they're not actually menstruating.

They're just playing at being women in the same way Marie Antoinette liked to play at being a simple country girl at Hameau de la Reine. You know, where her cows wore perfume, were led by flowered halters and milked into silver pails. Her 'peasant dresses' were made from pure silk and the finest lace.

Mind you the hyperbole of this comment is always a great demonstration of the emotional manipulation extreme trans activists use. Not saying this poster is an extreme trans activist, but they are using the tactics of that group.

And before any poster tries to frame my post as hyperbolic, I am talking about the people who demand that male people are indeed women and therefore should be treated as women and prioritised above female people where sex matters. Ie. That the demand that male people are treated equally to female people
where female people have special protections.

I am not talking about trans people who are campaigning for their needs while respecting that where there are conflicts with other groups that unique solutions may need to be found. Because trans people deserve respect.

somehow TW don't seem to want 'those' sort of periods

Somehow doubt they'd want mine, either, which is used to be so painful that when I had appendicitis I didn't realise it.

All they needed to say is our underwear is not just for periods, it is comfortable and suitable for people of any gender. The bit about trans women having periods is disgusting and offensive. Surely it is not representative of trans women, I can’t imagine any more than a minute few claim they actually have periods (menstrual bleeding).