Trans women do not have periods.

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According to period pants maker Modibodi, transwomen can have 'periods'. Periods which are just as valid apparently.

Whilst I'm not going to suggest I know what hormone treatment tied to a trans woman, I can confidently say that no, they don't have periods. Periods involve blood. Trans women don't bleed.

Modibodi seem to acknowledge that there is no bleeding involved I transwomen's 'periods' but bizarrely under a section on how to manage their periods, trans women should wear period pants. For the life of all God's WHY???! Wtf would wear period pants if they didn't have to?

"If a transwoman wants to spend money on period pants then that is their choice. I could wear boxers if I wanted to, or go commando, how would it affect you?"

Because Modibody has published misinformation as fact. They have used incorrect terminology that is harmful for both female people and male people to continue to use. How is it kind to allow male people to believe that they are experiencing a 'period' which is the word that refers to a female body process and can never refer to any male body process?

Who exactly benefits from allowing a male person to believe that their body is going through a menstrual cycle?

Who exactly benefits from a brand communicating this misinformation to an already potentially vulnerable group of people to encourage them to purchase a product that they do not need and that they may not be able to afford?

There is no doubt at all this is a commercial decision. It is based on expanding sales. This brand is trying to convince male people to purchase a product and spend money that they do not need to and may not even have to spend on a product that is unnecessary.

It's a cynical attempt by a supposedly ethical business to extort money from a mentally vulnerable group.

They shouldn't even be talking about a period at all, they aren't having anything like it. It's absolutely ludicrous to think that we should feed into these delusions. It's stupid & wrong. It's time to stop this madness NOW....ITS WRONG WRONG WRONG...

"How does it affect you" or "I couldn't get worked up about this" and other similar phrases are missing the point.
It DOES affect everyone when language is mangled and when we are forced to accept that "some" men can become women.
It might not matter much if a few men try to wear period pants, sure. What matters is that we are being fed the line that some men can be women if they want to. That they are as much a woman as one who is a woman simply by virtue of their biology and sex.
It is part of the ever growing insidious creep of this ideology that is attempting to gaslight young boys (and girls) into believing that they can ever change sex in any meaningful way, and a huge proportion of those people are dealing with concurrent diagnosis (or undiagnosed) of autism like illnesses.
It matters because it is yet another example of the attempt to blur the lines of what it means to be a woman. Erasing the actual definition of femaleness and womanhood means that ANY person can claim to be female, and therefore demand access to female spaces, institutions, groups, hospital wards, prisons, sports and refuges. It matters because this is just one tiny area where women and their specific needs and processes are being trampled over.

It matters because language matters, reality matters, and facts matter.

Companies like Modibodi are implicit in this.

YANBU. I’ve got 4 pairs of ModiBodi pants and they weren’t cheap. I can’t afford to replace them right now but, when I do, they’ve lost me as a customer 😔 Men can’t have periods FFS.

I don’t think this is about transwomen wearing period pants - one reviewer explains she buys modi body for her trans daughter as it helps her keep her genitals contained - wear away if the pants work for you I say!

If modi body designed a pant especially to help transwomen feel confident about their genitals being contained that to me would be a great marketing idea.

The issue is the modi body article saying transwomen have periods which are real and valid and they should buy period pants for these periods.

The uproar being not only is this a blatant lie, as transwomen do not have wombs and can’t get periods, but a period pant company undermining the experience of women who experience real menstruation is outrageous.

Op, they actually say the hormonal response is that person's version of a period because it is monthly and akin to a woman's hormonal response to menses, although the trans woman doesn't bleed. This suggests that the company is not selling underwear to trans women.

However, if a trans man is bleeding they have a right to wear period pants.

Don't get me wrong, I do not believe that trans women are women, but it really gets my goat that someone has wilfully misinterpreted a blog in order to serve their own agenda.

Yes it does suggest they buy some as they might find it validating. Fancy a large company preying on some emotionally vulnerable people like that too make a few more sales.

I am going to "unwatch" this thread because it is rewriting what has actually been said on the blog in order to generate a hysterical and indignant response from women, which would probably be justified if that was actually what they were saying. Hell, I would be annoyed if they were saying that men can bleed and should wear period pants, but they categorically do not say that, so I am out.

This is from their blog page under the section ‘Tips on navigating your period as a trans woman’

• Wear period underwear: By offering a sense of comfort, freedom and security, period underwear can help you feel comfortable, affirmed and empowered throughout your cycle. Check out our Women’s briefs and All Gender collection.

They are explicitly marketing period underwear to TW.

It's not being misrepresented. Their own website talks about trans women's periods, then provides the link to transwomen reading the page so that they can purchase the underwear. They ARE selling the underwear to trans women.

Read the quotes above, I'm not going to quote it again, it's there in black and white, it's up to you if you want to believe it or not.

Please read their blog. They acknowledge TW don’t bleed but still encourage TW to wear period pants.

This suggests that the company is not selling underwear to trans women.

It literally says:
"Tips for navigating your period as a trans woman

Here are some top tips for managing your period as a trans woman
...

• Wear period underwear: By offering a sense of comfort, freedom and security, period underwear can help you feel comfortable, affirmed and empowered throughout your cycle. Check out our Women’s briefs and All Gender collection."

So yes, Midibodi is selling period underwear to transwomen.

This thread continues because of posts like your’s which are incorrect - modi body does say transwomen should buy period pants and links to their products - this is a direct quote from their transwomen advice on periods article
“Tips for navigating your period as a trans womanHere are some top tips for managing your period as a trans woman:

• Track your hormonal cycle: Use a tracker app like Clue to keep tabs on your cycle and any related symptoms. This is a quick and easy way to feel more prepared and in control.
• Wear period underwear: By offering a sense of comfort, freedom and security, period underwear can help you feel comfortable, affirmed and empowered throughout your cycle. Check out our Women’s briefs and All Gender collection.”

Perhaps you have missed the very explicit sentences that Modibody have made in that blog then. Because they ARE saying that these male people should wear period pants because they are experiencing 'periods'.

Your attempt to parse this as 'they didn't explicitly say those male people bleed' is rather a dishonest interpretation of what is happening.

No one is 'rewriting' what has been said on the blog. It is all right there for everyone to read. But sure, please do come and scold women for what you choose to not read properly.

Ugh. ‘Empowered’ my fat ar*e.

Interestingly they're a consequence of modern life. Our bodies were designed to get pregnant pretty soon after menarche, with periods suspended by pregnancy and prolonged breastfeeding pretty much up to menopause. We were designed to have them occasionally, not every single month for most of our fertile lives.

This is one of the reasons why the risk of many reproductive cancers such as breast cancer goes up significantly if you have never been pregnant or breastfed. The fewer hormonal cycles your body goes through, the lower the cancer risk.

I have no clue why my reply was deleted, I was saying my notifications aren’t brilliant and I’m not seeing a lot of quotes/mentions that apparently have happened! I’m a female rape survivor and I’m not sure why I wouldn’t be kind to others, I think I’ve missed something here ?

@CatMadam how is calling others transphobic, but failing to say exactly what is transphobic, kind?

Maybe you were deleted because you called people who disagree with you a derogatory slur.

I’ve not failed to say what’s transphobic, I’ve said that basically every comment on this whole thread is very clearly transphobic, and if you can’t see that I don’t know what to say to you 🤷‍♀️ it’s not unkind to point out bigotry !

@CatMadam in what world is that an explanation? You can't say what's transphobic as there's been no transphobia. It's about as clear as mud. Stating reality isn't transphobia. Give an example. Just one.

I say that the comments on this thread are NOT transphobic.

Explain how I'm wrong.

Citation needed.

Don't forget everyone that some people operate under their own definitions for words and that them simply saying that something is hateful and transphobic is just them using their own personal definition for that state of being.

The moderation of this forum is very strict when it comes to transphobia. It will be deleted. MN use society's definition of transphobia, shaped also by court cases and legal advice, on what is considered transphobia and what is not. If posts are still standing on this thread, then they are not considered transphobic in the legal sense or by the wider UK society's understanding of the word 'transphobic'.