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To think (generationally) wealthy people are better looking?

318 replies

LylaLee · 16/12/2023 06:49

Yes, there are many men who would have married the 'homely' neighbour in order to join land or for alliance reasons.

But very often, a wealthy man 'gets to pick' a beautiful woman. Over several generations, surely this results in a better looking family overall. Whereas we plebs occasionally are randomly good looking, but not in the same way as a family with generation after generation of 'beauty injections' to their gene pool.

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Wolvesart · 16/12/2023 14:52

Nah looks and wealth are not closely related. People with very low incomes might not be able to afford cosmetic procedures or expensive product, but they might be naturally beautiful like anyone else. Rich folk can be ugly naturally or full of filler 😂

zaazaazoo · 16/12/2023 15:11

MrsSlocombesCat · 16/12/2023 13:49

I am not sure I agree. Just look at the Royal Family. Charles is deeply unattractive and Camilla isn’t much better. They got Diana into the gene pool so Wills and Harry are reasonably attractive and married very attractive women. But don’t forget Charles loved the horse faced woman more than he loved the beautiful Diana. Going back, Philip was very good looking but the Queen not so much. They had one good looking child out of four.
Nowadays rich people have cosmetic surgery to improve their appearance and sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes it makes them look worse. I personally think it’s a shame to interfere with the way you look, because your face is part of you and your heritage.

Who is the one good looking offspring of Elizabeth and Philip? They are all pretty awful looking.

SemperIdem · 16/12/2023 15:39

@zaazaazoo Edward was very handsome as a young man, but those Windsor genes trampled over Phillips slightly better ones the second he turned 30. Same thing happened to Diana’s Spencer genes, in William.

HRTQueen · 16/12/2023 15:42

Maybe healthier looking

but judging by our royal family (older royals) and May of our aristocratic families no it’s not true

I know someone will come along to say Princess Anne was stunning 🙄 next to who exactly

DerekFaker · 16/12/2023 15:50

Blueblell · 16/12/2023 07:44

I don’t know anything about genetics but do two beautiful people = a beautiful child? I mean it must go wrong sometimes

I'm not going to name names as that's cruel but there are certainly some celebrity offspring I can think of that are a bit odd looking.

Honestly the worship of posh people on this site is just sad.

naughtynine · 16/12/2023 15:54

150 years or so ago the Dutch were one of the SHORTEST people. After the Italians I believe. The time frame till now can not be explained by genetics

”Environmental factors have also sent the Dutch soaring, added Barrett, citing the Netherlands’ world-leading healthcare system, low levels of income inequality and excellent social welfare system as another explanation for them overtaking the Americans. “[In the Netherlands] everything is geared towards producing high-quality babies that then don’t suffer any of the kinds of things that reduce height,” she said. “Every time you mount an immune response it costs you energy that otherwise you would have put into growth.”

VanityDiesHard · 16/12/2023 15:55

User14March · 16/12/2023 13:07

@zaazaazoo Kate M is most certainly pretty or attractive by anyone’s definition.

Not by mine. I think she is very plain. She is well groomed and (too) thin but that's about it.

VanityDiesHard · 16/12/2023 15:56

zaazaazoo · 16/12/2023 15:11

Who is the one good looking offspring of Elizabeth and Philip? They are all pretty awful looking.

Some people think that Randy Andy was good looking. He wasn't (being a nonce notwithstanding) but that is probably who they meant.

naughtynine · 16/12/2023 15:57

I don’t get the hype around KM either, but a lot people equate very thin with beauty.

VanityDiesHard · 16/12/2023 15:59

DerekFaker · 16/12/2023 15:50

I'm not going to name names as that's cruel but there are certainly some celebrity offspring I can think of that are a bit odd looking.

Honestly the worship of posh people on this site is just sad.

Brooklyn Beckham, for one (although I don't really think that Victoria is beautiful, to be fair) Romeo and Harper are the only decent looking Beckham offspring. The Law kids are pretty plain IMO. Lila Moss Hack would not be modelling if it weren't for her surname. She isn't ugly, but she looks more like her father (and TBH I think Kate is overrated as well, anyway)

VanityDiesHard · 16/12/2023 16:02

User14March · 16/12/2023 13:26

@zaazaazoo most people don’t look as good. I take your point but she looks, at least, attractive, in shots you’ve selected.

I don't know where you live that 'most people' don't look as good as Kate M, but I disagree. I see better looking women than her every day, and I don't think I live in a city of outstanding beauties.

naughtynine · 16/12/2023 16:04

I’ve seen Kate Moss in real life & there’s something about her but obviously she is incredibly photogenic. Iris Law is pretty. I’ve seen Victoria & David years ago, he was really good looking, she was just very thin & average facially but she’s had work now.

VanityDiesHard · 16/12/2023 16:05

naughtynine · 16/12/2023 16:04

I’ve seen Kate Moss in real life & there’s something about her but obviously she is incredibly photogenic. Iris Law is pretty. I’ve seen Victoria & David years ago, he was really good looking, she was just very thin & average facially but she’s had work now.

Iris is better than Rafferty, true enough. I still don't think she would be a model if she wasn't a nepo, though. Victoria has never been a beauty, just very well groomed.

naughtynine · 16/12/2023 16:07

Shiloh Jolie Pitt is an example of it working out

KimberleyClark · 16/12/2023 16:11

Nigella Lawson certainly doesn’t take after her father!

ichundich · 16/12/2023 16:12

DerekFaker · 16/12/2023 15:50

I'm not going to name names as that's cruel but there are certainly some celebrity offspring I can think of that are a bit odd looking.

Honestly the worship of posh people on this site is just sad.

Quite. Not a week goes by without a class thread. Yet so much hate for private schools.

QueenMegan · 16/12/2023 16:23

God no. Often horsey large noses and teeth.
Boss eyed and thick knecked with coarse wild hair think Boris Johnson and most Royal Family who often have to marry beauty as they're pig ugly.

SwedishEdith · 16/12/2023 17:12

VanityDiesHard · 16/12/2023 15:55

Not by mine. I think she is very plain. She is well groomed and (too) thin but that's about it.

I'm absolutely no royalist but Kate M (presumably still talking Middleton as this point as Kate Moss has just entered the discussion) can't be described as "very plain". She's certainly polished up but even without that, she is not "very plain".

I never thought Diana was beautiful either. But with the right grooming and knowing how to work the camera etc, she could glow somehow.

I remember a documentary about David Beckham about 20 odd years ago and his parents were definitely not lookers.

VanityDiesHard · 16/12/2023 17:15

SwedishEdith · 16/12/2023 17:12

I'm absolutely no royalist but Kate M (presumably still talking Middleton as this point as Kate Moss has just entered the discussion) can't be described as "very plain". She's certainly polished up but even without that, she is not "very plain".

I never thought Diana was beautiful either. But with the right grooming and knowing how to work the camera etc, she could glow somehow.

I remember a documentary about David Beckham about 20 odd years ago and his parents were definitely not lookers.

I am talking about Middleton (I think Moss is overrated but wouldn't go so far as to call her plain) and I disagree with you. She is not naturally pretty at all. She isn't ugly either, so the correct word is plain. She is smart, well dressed, and well groomed, but she is very very far from being a beauty, despite all the fawning the Daily Mail does over her.

TroglodytesTroglodytes · 16/12/2023 17:55

I would say that the Middletons are better looking than average. Michael Middleton is in his 70s and still looks good.

I know that I could be better looking if I had more money, I would ditch the box dyes and get a professional colour for a start, buy top notch food, get well cut quality clothes and drastically reduce stress with no money worries.

kerstina · 16/12/2023 17:55

This thread title made me think of Made in Chelsea .At first glance you think they are all beautiful wealthy people but take way the expensive , stylish clothes , glossy and long locks , highly made up but natural make up look they are pretty ordinary really. Exception to the rule Sam Thompson naturally handsome and a lovely person. Yes I am biased but always thought he stood out on that show along with Maeva.

User14March · 16/12/2023 19:11

@VanityDiesHard if KM is ‘plain’ albeit, pleasantly, then most of us are plug ugly. I find it absurd to suggest she’s below average looks wise. She certainly can look very striking.

HRTQueen · 16/12/2023 19:20

I think Kate M is pretty, not stunning she has beautiful hair. Her mum is very good looking and has something about her she certainly isn’t from money. Her sister has that too

I think confidence is often attractive few very wealthy people lack confidence ds private school has certainly armed him with confidence

Ohmahgaws · 16/12/2023 19:46

TheaBrandt north or south . Dare u say the letter it starts with .
we have a town hakf an hour away and our ds has always said .. mum why is everyone ( not really everyone but a trend) ugly from…

Ohmahgaws · 16/12/2023 19:50

Thinking about it .. that town ..large number s in track suits that are not well fitted, scaped back hair , men a bit aggressive looking tho likely not. Quite a lot if drugs and most shops are pound shop tyoe . No were to actually buy / look at clothes of different types.. except one shop - tk max .