To wonder why people who commit crime keep texting each other their Plans?

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Keep seeing this. A crimes committed and police seize phones and retrieve messages.
The people involved, layout all their plans and fantasy by text or whattsapp to each other.

How do they think they will get away with it, when it's all typed out.

Why are people so thick as well as horrible? 🙄

Criminals are usually not very smart. A significant amount of them have Foetal Alcohol Syndrome .

This does make me chuckle

Alexa - ask how easy it is to kill my husband by poisoning him?

Ways you can poison are...

Those really are thick. It would be nice if life was that simple.

Why just FAS? That's a random thing to throw in there.
I'm not even going to start on social politics, poverty, ADHD, neglect, upbringing...

Just why chuck FAS out?

I always think of that lovely baby boy who was killed, and she was texting saying that she would “leather” him. It brings tears to my eyes, and I just want to enter Heaven & hug him forever…

Some people just lack any understanding. I did a course at the tax office on starting self employment, a woman there started talking about not recording all her income to pay less tax as they'd never know. She left before a few of us and the Tax officer told us her file would be red flagged as a result of her stupidity.

Thick as shit and too thick to know they're thick as shit.

Actually.... this is something I heard 25 years ago from someone involved in criminal justice system who had been on courses to understand 'Why' some criminals adopt criminality as a lifestyle, what their social backgrounds are, too. By courses I mean government ones for court staff. So there must be a lot of evidence to suggest the FAS (or drug-damage) is a common feature. My contact was utterly convinced by the evidence they heard. Also, FWIW, my contact went down the list of common features and said "Oh dear, most of this list describes me, too!"

Most people in prisons are incredibly damaged, were huge victims of abuse or neglect early in life, a large number have poor or no literacy, many have PTSD from awful things done to them plus (weirdly enough) from the awful things they did to others.

Where common = >1%, of course (the usual definition of common in formal contexts); >10% would be " very common"

heh. I always wonder why people Google "how to dispose of a dead body" from their home computers. Would you not go to a cyber cafe or the library at least?

One thing I noticed with the Brianna case was the girl X was writing notes on pieces of paper about how she planned to kill. After Brianna died, the girl went home to her own house and didn't destroy those notes. I found that really weird. I also found it weird that the boy involved didn't use private browsing. Those two were not stupid and the boy in particular was very bright, but how they didn't know those basics is just beyond me.

I remember reading one time that when Myra Hindley realised she wasn't going to be allowed to visit Ian Brady in prison she went absolutely crazy. The idea that she thought she would be able to is the crazy thing!

@ChateauDuMont PMSL here at those gems.

Name changed for this for obvious reasons.

I did actually once work with a chap years ago who went on to (after he left the firm I worked for) murder his wife. From my pov, he didn’t seem the type (if there is such a thing) From what I read as reported in the case, It did appear he’d tried to plan it, but obviously something made him come to his senses as he set fire to the family house after he’d done it, because he called the emergency service for help. Or maybe it was always his plan and he thought the fire would’ve taken a better hold than it did to cover the evidence. It didn’t. He still apparently maintains his innocence to this day (someone else came into the house and did it is the line he maintains) which will affect his parole eligibility. I often wonder if he has convinced himself he didn’t do it and thus cannot admit the crime to get parole or because he has to deny it because he’s so annoyed his Clever plan didn’t work. I guess we’ll never know. What I do know is that you cannot always judge a potentially psychopathic book by its seemingly bland cover.

Criminals are not known for their intelligence.

I still don't know who added me but about 5 years ago maybe? I was added to a massive WhatsApp group chat and it was 3 local people dealing drugs. They had offers on and everything.
2 bags of coke for 120 or 3 bags of weed for 60.
They delivered also, so people would be chucking in their address.
I was torn between staying to read the drama or leaving because of fear someone would think I was buying drugs.

Funnily enough, the enterprise didn't last too long 😂

You didn't think of telling the police about the WhatsApp group?

It's not just the criminals that are stupid. Have you ever seen someone who has gone to prison for a driving offence and has been banned from driving for the same length of time?

There's also the aspect that just because a crime isn't detectable today doesn't mean new technology won't be along in the future that will make it a solvable crime.

Estimated that up to 40% of Australian prisoners are affected by FAS. Probably similar for the western world. It is a well-known risk factor for criminality. In fact, FAS would be a common co-morbid factor in all of the things you listed- poverty, ADHD, neglect, upbringing.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-23/foetal-alcohol-spectrum-disorder-in-youth-justice-system/12885632

Honestly the sort of person who ends up living a life of crime often isn't very academic and struggled at school as s result. Often there are other things in the mix too - drugs/alcohol which impact how you behave etc

Extremely gross serial killer Dennis Rader was finally caught because he sent a floppy disk to a TV station. He wasn’t stupid though, he only sent it after asking police whether they’d be able to identify him from the disk – they assured him they couldn’t.

Plenty of criminals are really pretty thick. Stuff like driving like an idiot while drug dealing out of their car.

Watched an episode of 24 hours in Police Custody recently where a guy involved in a multi million dollar international drug smuggling operation captured incriminating footage on his dash cam 🤦‍♀️

I somehow read CCTV and interpreted this as CBBC - took me a few rereads being puzzled about how something like this was kids TV appropriate before I realised my mistake

A fellow casual criminalist fan! 😃

Surprised it took that long for one of us to pop up on this thread tbh

I too am bewildered when people leave such obvious trails, I'm careful about what I google just in case it looks dodgy and I'm not even doing crimes

Paying cash yes.. But the clubcard deal will knock off two squid so... 😂

Lucy Letby wrote quite a lot of damning stuff down, I think.

Remember these are the ones who got caught! Plus some (not all) criminals are not the brightest, hence being a criminal.