To wonder why people who commit crime keep texting each other their Plans?

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Keep seeing this. A crimes committed and police seize phones and retrieve messages.
The people involved, layout all their plans and fantasy by text or whattsapp to each other.

How do they think they will get away with it, when it's all typed out.

Why are people so thick as well as horrible? 🙄

They do. Their texts take some deciphering. It's certainly not written in plain English.

Yes I’ve been following the recent Brianna Ghey case and the young people in that case really seem to have left a glowing neon sign of evidence.

It’s the Googling I find odd. You know when they’ve googled “how to get rid of a dead body” or something like that straight after the murder. Like duh!!!!!!

ConnectFortyFour · Today 22:14

In the recent case with Brianna Ghey isn’t it that they did delete messages but the police were able to recover them?

And yet in the Covid enquiry, nobody is able to recover ministerial What's App messages, which have mysteriously disappeared! Even though I can when I get a new phone, or use What's App for PC!

Not to mention the people who film themselves committing crime! That’s happened a few times now.

When I was doing some DIY I was worried I looked suspicious as I bought a spade, bins bags, cleaning products, I felt guilty buying it even though I hadn’t killed anyone.
If I was I would definitely buy it in different places and pay with cash.

You only hear about the ones that get caught.

The rest are still at large, or running financial institutions, or are elected to high office.

Club card points are great and it’s annoying if you miss the chance to get more.

Rule number 1: don't write down your crimes

...if you know, you know :)

Usually because they think they are smarter than everyone else, especially when it comes to technology.

Encrochat and the infiltration by Interpol is a great example, you may find the UK Police side interesting. NCA

I think.I watched the same one ,crazy.

I used to work at the Crown Prosecution Service (not as a lawyer, but my role did mean I had detailed knowledge of the facts of the prosecution case). The first thing that struck me when I worked there was that the vast majority of criminals are absolutely thick as pigshit, particularly violent ones. I think most murderers who do get away with it actually get away with it by sheer luck rather than ingenuity.

I actually think that being thick isn’t just what gets them caught. It’s also one of the factors that makes them willing to commit murder in the first place - they often have absolutely zero ability to consider consequences. They simply do not/cannot think things through properly.

Obviously there are exceptions. But a lot of them are dumber than cheese.

Also a lot of the brighter murderers are, although not stupid, just massively egotistical sociopaths who are very overconfident and end up getting caught that way.

I always wonder why in America the murderer is filmed shortly before the disappearance of his wife going into Walmart or similar and buying a spade and bin bags etc and paying by card!

As the husband of a missing woman they must know they will be investigated!

Or the woman who has her husband murdered by her boyfriend and then is followed by the cops and caught on cops meeting g and snogging the boyfriend after she's not long made a tearful appeal about her husband being shot to death!

Or the teenage/adult kids that murder their parents die the inheritance and completely botch the killings and then when questioned by police are laughing and joking!

If you murder someone the worst thing you can do is make a public appeal! Remember Chris Watts? It was obvious he was scared for himself and not remotely upset about his wife or children!

I think their egos make them believe they won't get caught! It's bizarre.

Lol so true.

My friend is a probation officer and says she can’t believe how many ‘stupid’ criminals there are - she had someone who when on bail complained about a theft to the police. He comaplined that Someone had stolen his cocaine 😂

I think a lot of people are just generally a bit thick, and don't really consider that the police might be able to access or even think to access their phone records. I don't think they really think about what a proper criminal investigation involves

Like when you read about cold cases etc and people say things like 'have the police checked their phones" "have they interviewed the husband". The most basic of questions.

They also get over confident or want to talk about their crimes.

Obviously their are criminals who are intelligent and don't make mistakes, and these don't get caught. But I actually think in this day and age it's probably incredibly difficult to commit a crime without leaving some footprint

YABU

We don't see the stats for which there are no digital records. It's not the case that everyone leaves incriminating evidence.

However smart you are, it's impossible to fully control how the actions of other people play out. For even the best computer hackers, there are important golden rules, one of which is to assume getting caught and proceed on that basis. The goal being to help focus on leaving as few traces as possible. If even they're thinking like that it should be understandable why less skilled people get caught, right?

There's so many tiny, silly mistakes a person can make. Or it could be someone connected to you. Or maybe they're arrested doing something unrelated, and the police accidentally uncover your crime leading to being caught earlier than anticipated.

I'm guess you've just not got any experience of doing anything unlawful, to grasp that it's not as easy as you think, which is leading you to have such a harsh view.

I'm not denying, of course, that some people are incredibly careless. That's obviously true. I just don't think it's as easy as you think it is to successfully use digital communication. Most of it was developed for the military and secret service, and if they can use it successfully it's not unreasonable for others to try

Some just don't seem to care and think they won't get caught.
Not a text message, but this person was banned from possessing a bike yet within days of his CBO being issued he cycled to his probation appointment.
https://www.essex.police.uk/news/essex/news/news/2023/december/chelmsford-man-jailed-for-11-months-for-breach-of-criminal-behaviour-order/

yeah i think it's this. Arrogance and stupidity.

Mainly stupidity though.

I was only thinking this the other day.

There was a man who went to prison because he phoned the POLICE to report that his drugs were STOLEN!!!!!!

I will find the article.

To quote the bullies in an early episode of The Simpsons, ‘Video taping this crime spree was the best idea we ever had!’

Jijithecat · Today 23:22

Some just don't seem to care and think they won't get caught.
Not a text message, but this person was banned from possessing a bike yet within days of his CBO being issued he cycled to his probation appointment.

And every so often, you hear of someone driving home from court, 10 minutes after being banned!

Some people are genuinely thick.

A couple of men who owned a chip shop near me kidnapped a man, drove him to the shop and held him there, asked one of his colleagues for ransom money, got the money, put him back inI their van that was parked OUTSIDE THEIR SHOP, then said it had been stolen after he managed to break out and find help.

They all had a WhatsApp group on their phones entitled "Robbers Gang" where all the details had been discussed.

I mean FFS 😆

Fool:

A drug dealer was arrested and charged after he called the police to report his drugs had been stolen during a break in, and even gave them a list of the nicked narcotics.
James Beaumont, 38, rang Thames Valley Police to report that someone had got into his house and stolen the drugs.
Appearing before Oxford Crown Court on Monday, Beaumont pleaded guilty to possession with intent to supply.
Police found class A drugs including cocaine, MDMA, methylamphetamine and LSD at his home, along with class B drugs cannabis and ketamine, and class C drug Etizolam.

Scottish shoplifter Aron Morrison was picked up after pinching a bottle of vodka from a liquor store. It didn’t take Sherlock Holmes to find Morrison, though. His name and phone number were left with the clerk—after asking her out on a date.

One of the old men who committed the Hatten Garden Diamond Heist used his bus pass to get to the scene of the crime.

When an attempted robbery at a Lowes Home Improvement store went awry, Milton J. Hodges fled across the street and jumped a fence … right into the Cypress Cove Nudist Resort & Spa. As the Orlando Sentinel pointed out, “As one of the only folks wearing clothing,” Hodges was easily spotted by police.

😂