Things you've learned from this site

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According to recent threads:

Everyone over the age of about 35 looks way younger, constantly mistaken for younger, doesn't have a line on their face yet despite never using suncream, and their nan only used bin juice on their face and smoked 80 fags a day but had beautiful skin at 103 years old.

Everyone had sex with their complete stranger dp within about 4 seconds of meeting them for the first time, their dp moved in that night and never left and they're coming up to 762 years of happy marriage now.

Everybody on here seems to earn 200k in some mysterious job that doesn't seem to exist, they can't quite explain what they do, but they worked their asses off to get to this level of seniority which involves them working 3 hours a week for 2 weeks a year.

Interested to hear any more.

I suspect most of it is because people / parents of disabled children tend to look for support together

’t Rex’ in Asda?

Ride a white swan?

Not the viciousness you often see on MN, no. Obviously HR are not popular when having to take people through redundancy or disciplinary but those are not our decisions. We don't choose to make X people redundant or close that factory / warehouse / shop. Yes your boss might have been trying to get you out of the company but calling him a bastard in front of 10 witnesses will mean you get disciplined for that and we have to take you through the process. I'd assume people had a bit more understanding of how business works and not believe that HR are somehow a Union type department fighting for workers rights.

The difference between rhotic R's and non-rhotic R's.

I mean, I knew that people pronounce R's differently, given I speak several languages and can't pronounce the R correctly in any of them :( but I didn't know the actual technical term for the differences between say the r's as (generally) pronounced by people in Scotland and Devon, and in Liverpool and London.

I'd assume people had a bit more understanding of how business works and not believe that HR are somehow a Union type department fighting for workers rights

I get annoyed with the people in our HR team because they are bad with paperwork as a pp said, and work at a glacial pace.

In previous jobs I have disliked them because they have enabled bullying managers. If you manage people, you should work in their interests, rather than allowing people to get away with stuff that breaches policies and just general standards of pleasant behaviour. But it appears to be easier to support the manager and pay the bullied person lots of money to leave quietly.

I'd assume people had a bit more understanding of how business works and not believe that HR are somehow a Union type department fighting for workers rights.

Yes, we know that. I literally said that one reason HR isn't massively popular is because it works entirely in the business' interests, but has to put on a show of pretending that it cares about people. We know you're not on our side!

I don't think the name helps. It somehow sounds like it's trying to centre people, yet literally calls humans "resources". I think if it were just called "Business Protection", it would be straight up and out there, the pretence would be dropped and we could perhaps just all be a bit more honest about what it's for.

I truly didn't realise that HR wasn't aware that it wasn't hugely popular. Neither are managers but they don't seem to be surprised by this.

That transphobia is rife and if you make people feel uncomfortable about it they'll just get your comment deleted, like spoiled petulant children.

Awaiting inevitable comment delete in 3, 2....

What would be 'spoiled' or 'petulant' about fighting the erosion of women's protected spaces and hard-won rights because of men's 'feelings' eroding the definition of woman?

The underthinking is quite astonishing to me.

If you make them feel uncomfortable because you're being abusive, yes. The petulant childishness is in expecting everyone to take it in order to sustain your deluded self-righteousness.

Another thing I've learned here is that MN-ers aren't particularly troll-savvy. I've seen some OPs (the recent one about a boyfriend stealing the morphine OP had been prescribed for...wait...a miscarriage being a stand out for a lack of logic on every level) that are obvious trolls but people seem to take them seriously.

Then others, that seem very genuine to me, if obviously written in distress, and they get accused of being a troll, which is dreadful.

All the child-free threads I have seen so far are complaining about parental work leave and entitlement by parents etc, not saying they are wrong, the stories may be true, but why are these people here? Mumsnet is a forum/website by parents for parents, it is literally under the title of Mumsnet.

Can’t believe this question is still being asked. Mumsnet welcomes those with and without children. There is a board for MNers without children. If you don’t like it take it up with MNHQ.

Second this

Everyone’s transphobic

Jinx 🤣

't Rex’ in Asda?

Have a look for 'Shouting at me in the supermarket' (or something along those lines) in Classics. 😄

Are your children lions?

You sound like you have encountered bad HR professionals. My paperwork had to be tip top as I was audited when in certain roles. Also, the industry I was in at the time is fast paced, so glacial isn't possible.

There is politics, but that happens in every business. We had a very senior person who was reputed to be a bully but nothing was ever done. It was called out but the MD believed she was fantastic and, as no one ever came forward with an actual official grievance, nothing we could do.

I spent a lot of my time in HR supporting people who worked for the company. I was in recruitment, I supported graduate trainees and some other areas. I sometimes lobbied for financial support over and above what should officially be available where I felt it was warranted. When in graduate recruitment I made time to respond to every single request for feedback, from every stage of recruitment. No one was ignored. I did care about the people I worked with and supported.

So to answer you post, no I hadn't realised until I had been a while on MN that HR was so vilified as that had not been my experience. Maybe I was lucky. Your contempt for what was my profession is clear but you should remember that not every HR professional is the same.

It was called out but the MD believed she was fantastic and, as no one ever came forward with an actual official grievance, nothing we could do.

But if someone had, your job would have been to act in whatever way best protected the company and served its interests.

That might have meant sanctions on the bully, but only if that was in the company's best interests. If it wasn't, it's pretty likely other things would have happened and again, your job would have been to make sure they were done in such a way that no action could be taken against the company.

HR is just a very very corporate job and it is perceived accordingly. People just don't really like HR because you know far too much about everyone (confidential medical information, who's getting sacked or made redundant before they do etc), always act for the business and it's all dressed up as "caring for people". I've had HR pressure me with very intrusive questions regarding sick leave, all under the guise of "wanting to support you in the best possible way", because my sick note didn't give full details about what my surgery was for. I told them that I had been signed off while unwell, was now back and fit to work and the best support they could give me was to just let me get on with it because I was now fine. They still pressed me with intrusive questions and then started on my manager when I told them I did not wish to answer and I didn't need anything from them.

I can absolutely see why companies use HR; who wants to get sued or taken to tribunal? But you can't expect staff to love it too.

People don't like managers much either because they tell you what to do and you're answerable to them, but this doesn't seem to surprise anyone.

If you work in public sector, you should count yourself lucky to even get a scrap of bread at Christmas, never mind a party.

That name-calling over a difference of opinion on extremely minor things is necessary/warranted and makes some somehow better than the OP or others.

That there are few shades of grey, no middle ground exist. Things must be on the extreme ends.

That the majority of women are 110% sure their DH would never have an affair.

That most DH's wouldn't dream of glancing sideways at a gorgeous 20 year old in a mini skirt, they'd rather poke hot needles in their eyes.

Most DH's apparently never shout at the kids even when he's just been made redundant, they are setting fire to the furniture and his MIL is coming to stay for 2 weeks.

Gosh, if you'd asked me to generalise, I would have said the opposite, that a high proportion of posters on here are so certain that their DH is only prevented from having an affair by lack of opportunity, that they obsess about female colleagues, female friends, occasions on which he might be in the vicinity of a woman, and practice stringent rules about retiring opposite sex friendships when in a relationship etc.

I think the thing I find funny is that many of these men appear to be dopey, semi-literate cavemen whose most obvious characteristics are dirt-blindness and an inability to look after more than one child at a time, but the posters who complain about them still think they are irresistible to other women. Who are probably throwing their underwear at them in the photocopier room at work.

Gosh, if you'd asked me to generalise, I would have said the opposite, that a high proportion of posters on here are so certain that their DH is only prevented from having an affair by lack of opportunity, that they obsess about female colleagues, female friends, occasions on which he might be in the vicinity of a woman, and 0practice stringent rules about retiring opposite sex friendships when in a relationship etc.

I agree. The vitriol against OW is also testament to this. They are so sure their husbands can't be trusted that they prefer to hold every woman in the world responsible for his behaviour.

That the majority of women are 110% sure their DH would never have an affair...

... but still think it is paramount to read all their phone correspondence and insist they block an old female friend "because I don't need this kind of threat in our wonderful marriage".