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Adults who don't dress properly for winter

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Bearpawk · 06/12/2023 21:41

Driving me mad.
I work in an office where must people have a commute or a decent walk to get to work . I'd say about 90% can't dress themselves properly.
Young woman next to me ankle trainer socks. Midriff showing. Pissing and moaning about being cold. It's 1 degree outside and it's December.
It's raining and they come in wearing canvas shoes and a fluffy coat. No umbrella or waterproofs. Then expect to have the heating on full whack all day to dry their coats and shoes out.
In a training room all day where the lead trainer (middle aged, old enough to know better) insisted on having the heating cranked up all day because she's wearing a thin acrylic jumper and got cold to the bones on the way to work and can't warm up.
Everyone without exception has access to the weather forecast via their phones. It shouldn't be a shock when it's raining or cold. Yet they dress like it's May, all year round.
They earn decent money and aren't hard up so it's not a financial issue (maybe with some of the VERY junior/ young ones fair enough )

AIBU to fed up of people moaning about being cold or wet but making zero attempt to dress appropriately for the weather ?

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Natsku · 12/12/2023 14:03

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/12/2023 08:56

Try having an ASD kid.

Mines refused coats most of her life.

This is something that confuses me. I know some children with ASD or sensory issues for other reasons refuse coats/hats etc. and statistically I must have met or seen some children with these issues over the years with two children (so all the children I've ever come across at nursery and school over the last decade) yet I've never seen or heard of a child not wearing coats or snowsuits in winter. Is it just because it gets so cold where I am that the discomfort of the more extreme cold (like today its -11, more than 10 minutes outside without a coat in this temp is very uncomfortable) outweighs the sensory issues or do the parents just force them despite how upset they get or how much they protest? If the latter, is it causing long term issues with these children?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/12/2023 14:21

When it becomes unbearable she will deign to wear one. But it had to be really really cold. She pulled her hats off from age 6 months. Won’t wear gloves either. We just used to go out and take one with us. But if she saw it she’d kick off!

In little school, she did get attached to some coats but not often. Now age 17 refuses point blank.

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BiddyPop · 12/12/2023 20:02

I have a dd with ASD who does various sports involving being cold and wet for hours, or sweaty despite the freezing weather...and who wanders around in shorts and a t shirt at home when DH and I are huddled in jumpers.

I m a Cub Scout Leader and have had various Cubs with different levels of internal heating - some needed as many extra layers as we could get on the hottest summer day, and we currently have one who wears short regardless of weather (and he went through all lockdown with us doing Cubs outdoors all winter long!) - if he's cold, he puts on a hat but not legs...

And I also had a group in a room where 1 ran cold and the room could be 25 degrees but she'd have a cardigan on and feel cold, refusing to let windows be opened. But another who was melting when the room was as low as 17and always in very thin clothes...great fun dealing with who got in early and opened or closed windows at will!

Bearpawk · 13/12/2023 02:57

oneflewoverthe · 12/12/2023 08:53

I'd be sweating like a pig in several layers right now. Unless you live in the highlands of Scotland I don't understand why you would need layers and thermals now. It's so mild. I've turned the heating off at work too though as it's unbearably warm with it on.

Not today, no. This time last week it was 0 degrees.

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Natsku · 13/12/2023 04:52

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/12/2023 14:21

When it becomes unbearable she will deign to wear one. But it had to be really really cold. She pulled her hats off from age 6 months. Won’t wear gloves either. We just used to go out and take one with us. But if she saw it she’d kick off!

In little school, she did get attached to some coats but not often. Now age 17 refuses point blank.

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Perhaps its just cold enough here then to make them wear outside clothing, though I usually see children dressed up in heavy outside clothing even when its still quite mild (too mild for me to dress mine up or they'd be sweaty and uncomfortable)

Must have been difficult when your DD was younger, worrying about her being too cold, but at least at 17 she's old enough to understand the consequences of getting cold and decide for herself when its unbearable enough.

Namenumber3 · 13/12/2023 06:53

Why does everything on here end up as a discussions on peopleSEN children. The Op’s question was about adults.

Presumably the children who don’t wear appropriate clothes
a) don’t complain about being cold and wet because they prefer it
b) don’t work in an office where Op has to listen to them complain about wet and cold and work with heating up.

RampantIvy · 13/12/2023 08:18

Good point @Namenumber3.
Often threads like this turn into whataboutary threads.

K4tM · 13/12/2023 09:03

So, if my colleague was complaining of being cold in an adequately heated office whilst at the same time showing her midriff I’d just laugh and tell her to wear a vest. If on the other hand she wasn’t complaining I’d just assume she was fine like that and each to their own.

oneflewoverthe · 13/12/2023 09:29

It's 8 degrees in London now. I did wear a coat this morning but no layers and no heating!

RampantIvy · 13/12/2023 10:05

oneflewoverthe · 13/12/2023 09:29

It's 8 degrees in London now. I did wear a coat this morning but no layers and no heating!

You obviously run warmer than most people. 8 degrees is far too cold to not have some form of heating on for me. No amount of layering would keep me warm enough when I am sitting still at my desk at that temperature.

SkankingWombat · 13/12/2023 14:29

Natsku · 12/12/2023 14:03

This is something that confuses me. I know some children with ASD or sensory issues for other reasons refuse coats/hats etc. and statistically I must have met or seen some children with these issues over the years with two children (so all the children I've ever come across at nursery and school over the last decade) yet I've never seen or heard of a child not wearing coats or snowsuits in winter. Is it just because it gets so cold where I am that the discomfort of the more extreme cold (like today its -11, more than 10 minutes outside without a coat in this temp is very uncomfortable) outweighs the sensory issues or do the parents just force them despite how upset they get or how much they protest? If the latter, is it causing long term issues with these children?

For some it'll be cold enough to finally feel it (because they are less sensitive registering temperature generally), for others the balance between coat-discomfort and cold-discomfort will have shifted in favour of putting a coat on (the lesser evil).
Sensory issues can manifest as being less sensitive for some rather than overly sensitive, and sometimes both in the same person for different things! E.g. I am less sensitive to cold and my pain threshold is high enough I nearly died in childbirth after a very serious complication was missed due to "not being in enough pain", being "still conscious", and "able to speak" (midwife told me afterwards to be very careful after any falls and get checked out in case I've broken something and not realised). However, I can't tolerate wool on my skin at all, hate shoes and socks with a passion, and feel trapped in tailored clothing to the point I want to claw it off 🤷🏼‍♀️

christmaspaws · 13/12/2023 15:54

I'm just glad I work from home now. Usually have it between 16-18c which is comfortable
I do run warm and have a fan at work as I'm allergic to heat. On medication now but didn't wear a coat for the best part of 20 years as I would come out in hives

Zooeyzo · 13/12/2023 16:00

There's a mum at school pickup who complains its cold while wearing thin leggings, no socks and a short jacket while most others are in their big winter coats hats and boots. She reminds me of a teenager but is 30.

Natsku · 13/12/2023 16:24

SkankingWombat · 13/12/2023 14:29

For some it'll be cold enough to finally feel it (because they are less sensitive registering temperature generally), for others the balance between coat-discomfort and cold-discomfort will have shifted in favour of putting a coat on (the lesser evil).
Sensory issues can manifest as being less sensitive for some rather than overly sensitive, and sometimes both in the same person for different things! E.g. I am less sensitive to cold and my pain threshold is high enough I nearly died in childbirth after a very serious complication was missed due to "not being in enough pain", being "still conscious", and "able to speak" (midwife told me afterwards to be very careful after any falls and get checked out in case I've broken something and not realised). However, I can't tolerate wool on my skin at all, hate shoes and socks with a passion, and feel trapped in tailored clothing to the point I want to claw it off 🤷🏼‍♀️

Thanks for explaining. Interesting that both over-sensitivity and under-sensitivity can manifest in the same person.
I sympathise with the certain materials issues, I can't bear the feeling of certain materials, makes my skin hurt and feel wrong, but its just certain materials rather than certain items of clothing so easy to get around.

Cloudisi · 14/12/2023 22:13

It's 8 degrees in London now. I did wear a coat this morning but no layers and no heating!

Same, I haven't had the heating on working from home, just periodically opened or shut the window. I like a breeze in the morning to get fresh air circulating around. Then I shut the window and find I get too stuffy again rather quickly. If in at home, the window of the room I'm in gets opened a few times a day/evening to circulate.

Flobbyblob · 26/02/2024 17:24

So today is a great day to get this post resurrected. It's bloody freezing with an icy North Wind, but because we're edging ever closer to the vernal equinox it's brighter, tricking some really stupid people into thinking that this equates to it being warm. When it REALLY ISN'T.

Some fools have actually paraded past my office window in shorts - on their way to the park to enjoy the 'spring air'.

This really annoys me. I don't really know why as it's none of my business. But it does.

WhatNoRaisins · 26/02/2024 17:45

While I wouldn't do shorts at this temperature I am starting to wear less suitable shoes despite it being cold. I think I'm desperate for a change.

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