Adults who don't dress properly for winter

[Bearpawk]

Driving me mad.
I work in an office where must people have a commute or a decent walk to get to work . I'd say about 90% can't dress themselves properly.
Young woman next to me ankle trainer socks. Midriff showing. Pissing and moaning about being cold. It's 1 degree outside and it's December.
It's raining and they come in wearing canvas shoes and a fluffy coat. No umbrella or waterproofs. Then expect to have the heating on full whack all day to dry their coats and shoes out.
In a training room all day where the lead trainer (middle aged, old enough to know better) insisted on having the heating cranked up all day because she's wearing a thin acrylic jumper and got cold to the bones on the way to work and can't warm up.
Everyone without exception has access to the weather forecast via their phones. It shouldn't be a shock when it's raining or cold. Yet they dress like it's May, all year round.
They earn decent money and aren't hard up so it's not a financial issue (maybe with some of the VERY junior/ young ones fair enough )

AIBU to fed up of people moaning about being cold or wet but making zero attempt to dress appropriately for the weather ?

We have an office fleece jacket. I think my boss got it as a freebie somewhere. If anyone is feeling cold they can borrow it. Maybe the OP's workplace should invest in a few cheap fleece jackets and hand them out to people who want the heating cranked up.

Years ago I worked for a company who send an email out to advise that heating was stuck at 20 degrees. If anyone was cold, they were welcome to wear thermals underneath (we wore suits). Later when the culture changed a bit and dress code was business casual, the email went out again suggesting wearing a jumper vest/jumper.
I totally agree with you - you cannot wear canvas shoes in the winter. I disagree with so many of the comments… thermals do not have to cost a fortune. Lidl sell them in January for a fiver. I wear boots to work and then change into work shoes. Sainsbury’s have some lovely items and they have 25% off often. Raise it with HR and ask them to educate people. When people are cold they are not productive. So they should learn to look after themselves. Good luck.

My earlier comment about common sense wasn't about knowing that wool is warmer than acrylic but knowing to put a jumper on instead of a T-shirt when it is cold or wearing a coat or using an umbrella when it is raining instead of just a hoodie.

These are basic common sense. Unless you live under a rock you must surely notice that other people who are warm and dry are wearing these items of clothing.

Is 22 degrees not "room temperature"? So should that not be standard minimum temperature? I am happy to dress appropriately for the weather but not indoors, bugger that. Im not sitting inside wearing three or four layers because someone doesnt want the heating on 😂
I like it warm and toasty!

I thought standard room temperature was 20 and ideal room temperature 18 to 21. Certainly wouldn't expect 22 as a minimum!

The core temperature of the office is fine.
Would be fine for them if they didn't wait at bus stop or walk an hour to work in summer clothes in O degrees temps or the pissing rain. Then they're cold to the bones when they arrive.

@ScartlettSole where did I say I don't want the heating on? It's winter, it's cold, I do want the heating on. I have the heating on at home and a hot water bottle if needed. I just don't have the heating cranked up so high that I'm cutting about in summer clothes and the air is so stuffy I'm struggling to stay awake. And I dress warmly if I'm going outside. And I take an umbrella / waterproof if it's pissing down. Because I'm an adult.

I was with you OP til you said 22 degrees like that was hot. I was imaging 28+
22 is reasonable imo

@Bearpawk i didnt mean you specifically. I meant in general. I used to work for the army and those lads do not know what cold is! Trying to open windows in January etc 🥶 absolutely not, get it shut and crank that heating up a notch 👍😂

‘Tis when they share an office though. They’ve made it her problem by complaining all the time and turning the office heating up.

It pisses me off too. And adults that let their kids go outside without a coat when it's cold. In this cost of living crisis more economical to buy warmer clothes that will last that waste heating. Loft insulation too, easy to install

18 is far too cold for room temperature if you can't snuggle up under blankets! The occupational health and safety act in my country says that for light desk work (so where you're just sitting at the desk, not moving around and doing other things) the office temperature is recommended to be 21 and 25 degrees (25 being the summer limit) with 21.5 being considered the best temperature for offices in winter, and the employer must take action if the temperature falls below 20 degrees for light desk work.

i dont think there is a summer limit
unless you mean they should provide fans and advise on breaks for cold water

As in office temperatures should be cooled to no hotter than 25 in the summer, if possible (if not, then breaks are needed)

18 would be boiling under a winter quilt! Not even my grandmother has heating on at night and she is 90.

And adults that let their kids go outside without a coat when it's cold.

Kids run warm too and just because they don’t have a coat on doesn’t mean they don’t have several layers underneath and there are some with sen issues where they can’t tolerate coats. Plus, as this thread has shown, many people have different thoughts on what is considered cold.

I'd be sweating like a pig in several layers right now. Unless you live in the highlands of Scotland I don't understand why you would need layers and thermals now. It's so mild. I've turned the heating off at work too though as it's unbearably warm with it on.

“Running warm” doesn’t stop you getting wet. SEN kids also dislike being in damp clothes and shoes that rub.
As adults it’s important we remind kids to dress for the weather as they literally don’t think about it. Or they step outside for two minutes and decide it’s fine not to bother.

“Anyone can be cold” as they say.

Try having an ASD kid.

Mines refused coats most of her life.

Sweating is also a wetness too so..

It's currently 7 degrees and damp. Heating on here.

7 degrees foggy and raining here.

My heating is also on. I cannot describe this as mild.

7 here also, but sunny. Yes, there is a bit of dampness, typical but wouldn’t call it cold by any stretch. No heating on, but DH had it on last night and turned it off before bed. Not cold inside our home.

Dry cold is more easy to tolerate than damp cold. 7 degrees is chilly for me.