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Adults who don't dress properly for winter

519 replies

Bearpawk · 06/12/2023 21:41

Driving me mad.
I work in an office where must people have a commute or a decent walk to get to work . I'd say about 90% can't dress themselves properly.
Young woman next to me ankle trainer socks. Midriff showing. Pissing and moaning about being cold. It's 1 degree outside and it's December.
It's raining and they come in wearing canvas shoes and a fluffy coat. No umbrella or waterproofs. Then expect to have the heating on full whack all day to dry their coats and shoes out.
In a training room all day where the lead trainer (middle aged, old enough to know better) insisted on having the heating cranked up all day because she's wearing a thin acrylic jumper and got cold to the bones on the way to work and can't warm up.
Everyone without exception has access to the weather forecast via their phones. It shouldn't be a shock when it's raining or cold. Yet they dress like it's May, all year round.
They earn decent money and aren't hard up so it's not a financial issue (maybe with some of the VERY junior/ young ones fair enough )

AIBU to fed up of people moaning about being cold or wet but making zero attempt to dress appropriately for the weather ?

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Dallidalli · 07/12/2023 21:21

I'm the one in the office who opens the windows wide open haha. Internal rage is keeping me warm.

Honestly tho hot stuffy air is bad for you, need to ventilate in winter but people have a perpetual fear of fresh air.

Probably making me unpopular but people quite literally have to grow thicker skin.

Platypuslover · 07/12/2023 21:22

It’s a cultural thing. School Uniform and its mysoginy and fascist nature is the cause.

In other countries that don’t have uniforms you are taught from a young age to wear warm boots jumpers coats and tights under your trousers if needed.

venus7 · 07/12/2023 21:23

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/12/2023 21:04

hmmm what was l saying about moral superiority?🤔

Im allowed to maintain my heating at a comfortable level for me. I can’t wear and fucking hate itchy jumpers and itchy polyester thermals.

22 degrees is a normal indoor temperature winter.

It's not moral superiority; it's being socially responsible.

venus7 · 07/12/2023 21:26

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/12/2023 21:00

I’m averse to them all.

The only truly non allergenic fibre is silk. All hair and wool fibres have scales on them which is what causes irritation. A lot of people can’t wear wool/hair fibres, they are the worst tolerated of all fibres. Even Merino causes problems.

I used to lecture Textile Science.

Silk is a very warm and insulating fibre. I hoard silk shirts/tops.

Yes, I'm aware of the qualities of silk.
I realise some people can't wear wool at all; I was just making the suggestion to try the less scratchy types over a comfortable base.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/12/2023 21:28

venus7 · 07/12/2023 21:23

It's not moral superiority; it's being socially responsible.

Yeah fine. It’s better to live in a cold miserable house isn’t it? For the planet and that?

The biggest footprint comes from air travel. Not from mg little house in the north of England. Let’s get it in proportion.

venus7 · 07/12/2023 21:30

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/12/2023 21:28

Yeah fine. It’s better to live in a cold miserable house isn’t it? For the planet and that?

The biggest footprint comes from air travel. Not from mg little house in the north of England. Let’s get it in proportion.

Of course.

tigger1001 · 07/12/2023 21:36

Dallidalli · 07/12/2023 21:21

I'm the one in the office who opens the windows wide open haha. Internal rage is keeping me warm.

Honestly tho hot stuffy air is bad for you, need to ventilate in winter but people have a perpetual fear of fresh air.

Probably making me unpopular but people quite literally have to grow thicker skin.

Oh I hear you! Often have windows open at this time of year as central heating and fan heaters make rooms so stuffy!

I work in a room on my own now due to my hate of being too warm. Whereas my colleagues had the heating on in the nicest days of summer..

ithinkthatmaybeimdreaming · 07/12/2023 23:27

Platypuslover · 07/12/2023 21:22

It’s a cultural thing. School Uniform and its mysoginy and fascist nature is the cause.

In other countries that don’t have uniforms you are taught from a young age to wear warm boots jumpers coats and tights under your trousers if needed.

Oh what rubbish!! I live in a country with school uniforms, yet most people here know how to dress for the weather. Some of the young don't but they normally don't complain about being cold either.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 07/12/2023 23:29

It’s a cultural thing. School Uniform and its mysoginy and fascist nature is the cause

😂

Gowlett · 08/12/2023 00:35

If anything, my school uniform consisted of a trench coat, blazer, wool jumper, skirt, knee-high socks etc… So, it really taught me how to layer up or down appropriately.

BuggersMuddle · 08/12/2023 01:50

22 degrees for a desk based job is adequate, but hardly roasting - especially if there's a smart dress code.

ithinkthatmaybeimdreaming · 08/12/2023 01:56

Gowlett · 08/12/2023 00:35

If anything, my school uniform consisted of a trench coat, blazer, wool jumper, skirt, knee-high socks etc… So, it really taught me how to layer up or down appropriately.

Exactly. Where I live there are distinct summer and winter uniforms anyway (although of course there is the occasional student who wears theirs in the wrong season!)

MolyHacaroni · 08/12/2023 02:11

NorthernSpirit · 06/12/2023 21:52

Totally agree with you. This really pisses me off.

Man in town today (2 degrees) wearing shorts, t shirt and flip flops). Knobhead was a word that sprung to mind when I saw him.

I on the other hand was wearing a thermal vest, merino wool jumper, North Face jacket and Timberland knee high boots. I felt very snug & toasty.

Is this sarcasm? If not... then wow.

Ineke · 08/12/2023 03:20

No such thing as bad weather, just bad clothes! As the saying goes.

RantyAnty · 08/12/2023 04:49

That was my mother had the heat set on hell because she felt entitled to wear resort wear in the winter. It was really too much for her to put on some socks and a jumper.

Have another relative who keeps the heat at 24. It's awlful.

DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy · 08/12/2023 05:24

@Pinkpinkpink15 same. This thread is (unfortunately) reminding me of another one recently which became a massive mud slinging session about how ridiculous and gross people look ( and it's usually aimed at younger people) Now some poor sod walking down the street minding his own business is labelled a twat by somebody else all wrapped up in their timberland and cashmere. Why do people waste all their mental energy walking round making such smug and spiteful judgements about how people look or choose to dress? It sounds so mean and spiteful. I wander round thinking what I need to get for dinner and when the heck is that next batch of the Crown dropping on Netflix.

Chocoswirl · 08/12/2023 06:30

MumblesParty · 06/12/2023 23:51

Do you not just wear the clothes you wore last year, and the year before, and the year before that? I probably buy about 3 items of clothing per year, and I’ve got stuff for all weather.

Some clothes I re-wear, but the quality isn’t what it used to be. Plus, I can’t go back more than 2 years because I got fatter!

WillowTit · 08/12/2023 07:27

it doesnt matter what i wear, i hate the warm heat, it makes me sleepy, its stuffy, and the best thing about covid was the excuse to have a window open at work!

jasminocereusbritannicus · 08/12/2023 07:33

Dunno about adults, and I know this is ‘controversial’ with the cost of living etc… but children that are sent to school in summer clothing never ceases to amaze me.

And school staff can’t win… we either get berated by parents for not making sure their child has done their coat up to go outside, or you get the children who insist that they are not cold and go out in their polo shirts , despite being told again and again to put on a coat… only to be told they didn’t bring one, because they came in the car….
Dress for the weather, people!

GlomOfNit · 08/12/2023 08:02

Naptrappedmummy · 06/12/2023 21:53

How many people can afford merino wool, North Face and Timberlands as a staple do you think? And enough to rotate and wear every day for a few weeks of cold weather?

Most of my cashmere jumpers and cardis came from charity shops. (I got an All Saints cashmere cardigan once and it's almost my favourite thing!) You don't need a designer outdoorsy jacket, just an appropriately warm/waterproof one. You could get a decent one in Sainsbury TBH. I think it's pretty obviously not a cost issue with most people - it's a failure of imagination, intelligence or just bloody-mindedness because they want to wear their pretty clothes.

WhatNoRaisins · 08/12/2023 08:10

It's going to be hard if you are the sort who follows fashion. I'll never forget that article I read about fashionable shoes for a rainy summer day, none of which would have stood up to a puddle on the pavement.

I'm probably a summer failure. Obviously I don't wear a jumper but I don't have a lot of cooler clothes that I like and I'm sure I'd be resistant to being told told to buy expensive linen which I'd have to iron. Few of us are all weather people.

WhatNoRaisins · 08/12/2023 08:12

To be honest what puts me off getting too much cashmere and real wool is the washing. I prefer to just put the majority of my clothes in a general wash. I'll gentle or handwash the odd special item but no more than that personally.

BigBoysDontCry · 08/12/2023 08:24

I accept that people react differently to temperature and in the past I was the one who was neither hot nor cold whilst others were moaning about sweating or the draft or whatever.

We are all in a new build office now where the temperature is constant all year and we have no access to the controls.

I also lost nearly 3 stone (illness) and I wasn't overweight to start with, now I feel the cold.

I love wintertime as I can happily wear warm jumpers in the office and it look appropriate whereas I felt a weirdo doing that in summer.

Male colleague finds it too warm so he wears a polo shirt and takes his warm fleece and jacket off. Another cycles in and leaves his cold/wet stuff in the drying room and wears tshirt in the office.

It's possible to dress appropriately for the cold outside and warm inside according to your own body without breaking the bank or inconveniencing others.

Even back in the days of offices being more formal, as a young person I had a full length wool coat I teamed with a good umbrella for when it was wet.

Pipistrellus · 08/12/2023 08:24

WhatNoRaisins · 08/12/2023 08:12

To be honest what puts me off getting too much cashmere and real wool is the washing. I prefer to just put the majority of my clothes in a general wash. I'll gentle or handwash the odd special item but no more than that personally.

It's actually one of the things I like about it, it doesn't need washing for ages. I then just put it in a wool wash with tesco wool detergent, easy!

HarrietPoole · 08/12/2023 08:37

NorthernSpirit · 06/12/2023 21:52

Totally agree with you. This really pisses me off.

Man in town today (2 degrees) wearing shorts, t shirt and flip flops). Knobhead was a word that sprung to mind when I saw him.

I on the other hand was wearing a thermal vest, merino wool jumper, North Face jacket and Timberland knee high boots. I felt very snug & toasty.

I spend the day in town in a thinnish dress and ankle boots with no tights. It was minus one and sunny and I was perfectly comfortable. Had a jumper with me, but I loaned it to my friend who was cold. Maybe this bloke enjoys feeling cooler and is not actually a knobhead?

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