Really regretting getting the Covid jab (warning pity party)

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I had my COVID vaccination on Saturday. I have had all the available boosters since lockdown as I have had some health issues that put me in a "slightly vulnerable to COVID" category.

Went to local chemist had the jab and a charity shop mooch, then came home all fine. 10-12 hours later I start feeling ropey. I know I might be in for a rough night as I have been known to react badly. So I had violent chills, followed by feverishness, crazy fever dreams, headache untouched by paracetamol, couldn't get out of bed for a wee without help, joint pain, nausea, loss of appetite ... This went on for 24 hours. I was still a wreck on Monday, so day off work, Tuesday tired but felt better and felt normal by the evening. I expected to be back at work today.

Then in the middle of the night, chills again I was shivering violently, headache returned plus sore throat and a cough. Most likely an opportunistic virus 🦠 but I am wondering why I put myself through all this🙄

Not sure if the net benefit outweighs the massively inconvenient time off work and feeling like shit-ness of it all.

I will think hard before taking the next booster if offered. I have the flu jab every year - never any issues with that one.

And STILL you keep going... YES, do your own research. Why on earth would you want to be spoon fed!? Not a good look.

Clearly you know best then. What on earth do you need me for?

Generally, internet etiquette is this: if you say you know something, people engage by showing a genuine interest in a different point of view to open up debate, not treat that person with contempt THEN expect them to provide you with a textbook of information. That's not how life works I'm afraid.

@Jumpingthruhoops

Generally, internet etiquette is this: if you say you know something, people engage by showing a genuine interest in a different point of view to open up debate, not treat that person with contempt THEN expect them to provide you with a textbook of information. That's not how life works I'm afraid.

😄 The reactions to your posts should tell you otherwise. (And we're not expecting a textbook - just perhaps a pointer to a helpful source rather than a cryptic sideways hint.)

@Jumpingthruhoops

How's this for an idea: Why not put that energy towards helping the vax injured to have their voices heard? God knows it's taken them long enough.

They haven't been heard before? That's news to me.

I wouldn't have it. It seems foolish to me after having 3 bad reactions in a row to have another booster! Why keep doing something which is obviously bad for you?

Well no. I haven’t seen much on it at all tbh. I always hope, but l don’t. There virtually no coverage of the vaccine injured because no one wants to put their hand in their pockets to compensate the likes of me.

@Jumpingthruhoops

I have been consistent on this thread. I am not passionately pro vaccine. I am pro “people doing what is right for their completely individual situation with zero judgment from me or others”. I am immunocompromised and in theory one of the highest risk, but I had some concerns and I discussed the latest Covid booster with my immunologist before I made a decision. Do I believe everyone should be vaccinated for covid? Nope. Do I believe people have been vaccine injured? Sadly, yes and I cannot imagine how they must be feeling.

My only thing I am ‘passionate’ about is not taking medical advice from strangers on the internet.

I do very much understand the legalities behind informed consent from my job. I never proclaimed to have insider or other information about vaccine administration, covid, vaccine damage or side effects etc. I never claimed to be an expert.

I am listening but yet, you’ve not given any information. 🤷🏻‍♀️ You’ve made up a rhetoric and assumed.

With respect to your immensely difficult situation, what sort of coverage do you think there would be? How much is good enough? I would strongly encourage you to seek legal advice (if you haven’t already). Vaccine injury has been known for many years. It won’t be highly publicised or in the news non stop. Serious adverse events were on mainstream media such as; the AZ vaccine and blood clot risk. It’s never going to be an ongoing topic.
My friend who can barely walk because of a GP prescribed antibiotic for an infection raises awareness. I’m sure her online support group does other things. That said, I am aware some vaccine injured people are too poorly so I’m not passing judgment. Even if someone did a 6 pm news piece on vaccine injury, that’s just one day. I get that it’s awful for you because you live in day in and day out. Obviously I think you should be financially compensated.

Genuinely I am sorry for what you’re going through.

my guess is that the covid jab was rolled out at speed during the pandemic as we were in a crisis and there clearly hasn’t been a plan for long covid sufferers - which is awful. Studies are coming out right now which shows us that there still are/were plenty of unknowns. I hope that there is work going into minimising these side effects to make the jab safer should we need it in the future. That’s frightening (for me anyway).

I’m sure it takes years to refine a jab.

The voice of reason @theprincessthepea

I don't understand you, truly.

If you have access to sources of information about the side effects of the vaccine and that information is not widely known why not share it to spread awareness? Why sit on it simply to spite the people who you have an issue with on this thread?

The information you are sitting on might help the people on this thread who are vaccine injured and fighting for proper recognition and justice. You could at least PM them the info if you don't want to share it here.

My only thing I am ‘passionate’ about is not taking medical advice from strangers on the internet.

This. 👍🏻

On this thread there are people who have had zero reaction , those who've had a dodgy day and sadly people who have had a severe confirmed injury. I'm still not sure how that helps OP.

I am listening but yet, you’ve not given any information. 🤷🏻‍♀️ You’ve made up a rhetoric and assumed.

It's funny little power play going on tbh. But you see everything on here.

@IClaudine the reason is probably spite or a sense of superiority, whichever view you take. If you can say “I found this thing on Google but you probably won’t be clever enough to understand it even if you do find it” it might make you feel better?

*I'm not 'refusing' or being 'cryptic'.
It's just not something I can be bothered to do for people who argue passionately about a subject... then admit that they in fact don't have all the information and wouldn't know where to look! *

You saying that you have special information dear hoopaloop is not the same as " people admitting they don't " ....

You've been stringing posters along on this thread with talk of " internet etiquette " and " "bitchiness" ( let's not analyse your posts 😄 ) and what is or isn't a good look or you can't be bothered. You'd think you'd just exit the thread wouldn't you?

Better to hang around and assume a superiority of knowledge.

Anyway lots of what you have said doesn't stack up. Same old same old.

You're right, you don't understand me.
I'm not 'sitting on information'. Like I said, it's all out there for anyone who cares to look. The fact you don't isn't my problem.

You mean, have people insult me and just 'exit the thread'? Not defend myself? That's not how life works.

Have a nice day.

Like I said, it's all out there for anyone who cares to look. The fact you don't isn't my problem.

🤣

'Deres gold in dem hills ......'

*You mean, have people insult me and just 'exit the thread'? Not defend myself? That's not how life works.

Have a nice day.*

yep - just pages of insults. Dear me.

This is all very complicated isn't it?

I can only conclude that hoops
either doesn't have any information at all or they do, but it is nothing that hasn't previously popped up on SM and the sources are the usual suspects.

Eh? You’re getting the hump with people because you believe they haven’t accessed the same information as you but get more arsey with them if they ask what information you’re referring to since it’s apparently fundamental to your pov. Then gatekeeping this information (since we’ve already established you’re conversing with people who haven’t seen this information) declaring that they’ll just pick holes (confident in it then?) and they should seek out it themselves.

How would they even know what they do find is whatever it is you’re referring to? Should they just keep going until they find something that kind of fits and then completely adjust their position to fit yours? Is that what you had to do?

‘Just ‘cos’ is a really odd position to defend so vehemently if you’re confident enough to try and malign others for not knowing and/or agreeing with you.

If you’re so defensive and hostile about fleshing out an opinion maybe discussions like this aren’t for you.

@Jumpingthruhoops I think public messaging was a strong mechanism in the pandemic and I didn’t know about those guidelines, I read some and the detail is a lot more than I would have guessed

If you felt you were raising concerns at the time and felt overridden idk it’s fine to say that

Personally I felt the vaccine was the way out of hideous restrictions, I kind of knew about risks and if anyone felt or feels it’s not for them then also ok, it’s an individual decision

I kind of get where you are coming from but I was ok with the decision and generally relieved vaccines happened

That's what I said: Yes, the information is 'out there' - but with lots of those significant side effects detailed as 'rare'. Which is simply not the case.

What do you say the incidence of significant side effects is, @Jumpingthruhoops? I've never come across anyone who has had anything worse than short-term feeling unwell. I completely accept that my personal experience means nothing, so I'd be interested in the actual statistics.

I never took any covid jabs as I have autoimmune issues and was 'hesitant'.

I knew some people who worked for the NHS at the beginning of covid times - they had their jabs as priority. Some strongly didn't want to take the jabs but felt forced to at the threat of losing their job at the time which I felt was unfair. Two people I know got really really sick from the jabs and swore off ever taking them again but did take the first two for the sake of their job. Other people I know had no issue.

In the long term, I decided I would only take the jabs if they became mandatory. Subsequently I have never had covid or tested positive for covid (I've taken a lot of tests). I find this quite weird as I live in a high density inner city environment so it's not as if I don't encounter germs.

Lately I socialise with a bunch of older women, over 75s, who are very keen on jabs and this last couple of months they all took their jabs and without fail every single one of them felt ill and also has come down with covid and tested positive for it. They said if they hadn't had the jab they'd have been MORE ill. I seem to think they all got ill from the jab. My neighbours felt ill after the jab this winter too. Who knows.

I find all this too confusing for words and am happy to stick with my 'no thanks' stance.

@Tzimi because sometimes it's for long term gain
Every week I inject myself with a medication. I then get a headache, 40c temp, sweat/shiver, shake with cold, every bone in my body hurts and I feel sick and it lasts about 24-48hrs
I could not take the medication but there's no other option, and without the medication I would be more prone to other illnesses

I've never come across anyone who has had anything worse than short-term feeling unwell. I completely accept that my personal experience means nothing, so I'd be interested in the actual statistics.

Same tbh.

Maybe it's an age thing.

But then it's the same with my mum and her MiL and their lot.

I think of all those queues and cars and people waiting at the vaccination centres.

Sometimes I'm at work at a huge corporation with buildings full of people. Still never hear of people being laid up.

But I suppose anecdotal experience is never going to mean that much.

And it's nationwide stats that count.