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Really regretting getting the Covid jab (warning pity party)

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FlemCandango · 29/11/2023 12:27

I had my COVID vaccination on Saturday. I have had all the available boosters since lockdown as I have had some health issues that put me in a "slightly vulnerable to COVID" category.

Went to local chemist had the jab and a charity shop mooch, then came home all fine. 10-12 hours later I start feeling ropey. I know I might be in for a rough night as I have been known to react badly. So I had violent chills, followed by feverishness, crazy fever dreams, headache untouched by paracetamol, couldn't get out of bed for a wee without help, joint pain, nausea, loss of appetite ... This went on for 24 hours. I was still a wreck on Monday, so day off work, Tuesday tired but felt better and felt normal by the evening. I expected to be back at work today.

Then in the middle of the night, chills again I was shivering violently, headache returned plus sore throat and a cough. Most likely an opportunistic virus 🦠 but I am wondering why I put myself through all this🙄

Not sure if the net benefit outweighs the massively inconvenient time off work and feeling like shit-ness of it all.

I will think hard before taking the next booster if offered. I have the flu jab every year - never any issues with that one.

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Tzimi · 02/12/2023 12:45

witchypaws · 02/12/2023 12:21

@Tzimi because sometimes it's for long term gain
Every week I inject myself with a medication. I then get a headache, 40c temp, sweat/shiver, shake with cold, every bone in my body hurts and I feel sick and it lasts about 24-48hrs
I could not take the medication but there's no other option, and without the medication I would be more prone to other illnesses

Ok, feel free to inject yourself with medication which makes you ill, if that's what you want to do. Have fun!

sunglassesonthetable · 02/12/2023 12:53

Ok, feel free to inject yourself with medication which makes you ill, if that's what you want to do. Have fun!

Wow.

Jumpingthruhoops · 02/12/2023 12:59

Cornettoninja · 02/12/2023 12:04

Eh? You’re getting the hump with people because you believe they haven’t accessed the same information as you but get more arsey with them if they ask what information you’re referring to since it’s apparently fundamental to your pov. Then gatekeeping this information (since we’ve already established you’re conversing with people who haven’t seen this information) declaring that they’ll just pick holes (confident in it then?) and they should seek out it themselves.

How would they even know what they do find is whatever it is you’re referring to? Should they just keep going until they find something that kind of fits and then completely adjust their position to fit yours? Is that what you had to do?

‘Just ‘cos’ is a really odd position to defend so vehemently if you’re confident enough to try and malign others for not knowing and/or agreeing with you.

If you’re so defensive and hostile about fleshing out an opinion maybe discussions like this aren’t for you.

You evidently haven't read the full thread.

My initial response was to someone saying that lots of information was hidden during the pandemic. Which it was.

Cue cries of: 'I don't believe you', 'prove it', 'where's your evidence' which, when I didn't provide any (which I'm not obliged to!), was met with: 'You're sitting on information', 'you think you're a no-it-all etc, etc' when all I said was, it's all out there if you care to look. Which it is.

Cornettoninja · 02/12/2023 13:00

@Tzimi that’s a bit flippant. People who regularly take medications with bad side effects don’t have a choice as such, no more than they have a choice about what conditions they’re suffering. People with illnesses such as cancer for example. It’s usually a choice after considering long lists of pros and cons.

if it’s not for you then that’s fine, but personally I think it’s insulting to tell someone to ‘have fun’ when they’re obviously coping with some sort of condition. Even if you were living with the exact same condition I don’t think it gives you carte Blanche to be so dismissive to someone who’s made different choices.

witchypaws · 02/12/2023 13:05

Yeah it's not what I WANT to do and I've cried a lot over it
But it's like having chemo - that can make you ill. So do you just say no thanks I'll die instead? Confused
There's no other options. I take the medication or don't

Cornettoninja · 02/12/2023 13:06

@Jumpingthruhoops, I’ve been catching up on it periodically since I contributed pages back because it comes up on my active list.

What I’ve seen is you dodge any perfectly reasonable request to expand on your pov and descend into the fallback of every person insecure in their own opinion but in possession of too much ego to admit that with ‘do your own research’ when pushed.

For all you know people are genuinely interested to see research that throws a light on effects of vaccines and/or Covid infections. I am, I’m very interested in what’s going to emerge over the next few years/decades from a lot of perspectives primarily because this is a unique (I hope) event in my own lifetime and Covid remains a very new factor in heath impacts. It’s interesting.

Jumpingthruhoops · 02/12/2023 13:08

CouchCat · 02/12/2023 02:40

@Jumpingthruhoops

Generally, internet etiquette is this: if you say you know something, people engage by showing a genuine interest in a different point of view to open up debate, not treat that person with contempt THEN expect them to provide you with a textbook of information. That's not how life works I'm afraid.

😄 The reactions to your posts should tell you otherwise. (And we're not expecting a textbook - just perhaps a pointer to a helpful source rather than a cryptic sideways hint.)

The reactions to my posts tell me that people are unable to think for themselves.

This thread is about the vax injured - I'm frankly amazed that people have seen fit to use this thread to remind people how 'wonderful' the jab is. At best these posts are tone deaf - at worst they're downright bloody offensive.

Cornettoninja · 02/12/2023 13:09

But it's like having chemo - that can make you ill. So do you just say no thanks I'll die instead?

Tbf some people do say that. They generally don’t crow at those that do choose chemotherapy to ‘have fun’ though.

witchypaws · 02/12/2023 13:14

Cornettoninja · 02/12/2023 13:09

But it's like having chemo - that can make you ill. So do you just say no thanks I'll die instead?

Tbf some people do say that. They generally don’t crow at those that do choose chemotherapy to ‘have fun’ though.

True. I was diagnosed with this age 31 and it doesn't affect my lifespan providing I take the medication to keep my bloods up to normal
So to me I would be daft not to do it although there's times when I'm pouring with sweat at 5am before work thinking it

Cornettoninja · 02/12/2023 13:14

Jumpingthruhoops · 02/12/2023 13:08

The reactions to my posts tell me that people are unable to think for themselves.

This thread is about the vax injured - I'm frankly amazed that people have seen fit to use this thread to remind people how 'wonderful' the jab is. At best these posts are tone deaf - at worst they're downright bloody offensive.

Well you’re reading posts very differently to others then.

fyi if you’re going to trot out lines like ‘The reactions to my posts tell me that people are unable to think for themselves’ you’re pretty much telling anyone that you are following the script of conspiracy. It’s a contradictory one at best anyway, because it’s often used with people who just don’t agree with them, so targeted at people that don’t think like you specifically.

Inquiring after further information is not a sign of someone ‘not thinking for themselves’. It’s showing an interest in something you are aware you don’t know much about.

sunglassesonthetable · 02/12/2023 13:21

The reactions to my posts tell me that people are unable to think for themselves.

Oh please get down from your high horse.

I'm not very interested in 'special information' because we can't discuss what we don't know. You sitting up on high because "other people can't think for themselves" are about at the level of your other answers. And one that has endlessly been churned out on SM.

Yep lots and lots of people "can think for themselves".Not just you. 😄
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This thread is about the vax injured - I'm frankly amazed that people have seen fit to use this thread to remind people how 'wonderful' the jab is. At best these posts are tone deaf - at worst they're downright bloody offensive.*

No this thread is about people's reaction to the vaccination. Read the OP.

And who exactly has said how 'wonderful ! the jab is? People have come out pro, just as you have come out against.

Please stop schooling everybody on etiquette, being offensive , or how life works just because it suits your argument.

Cornettoninja · 02/12/2023 13:23

@witchypaws that’s tough going and fwiw I feel the same as you - that it would be daft not to take any opportunity to live a normal lifespan in relatively good health on the whole (I’m presuming prolonged ill health probably led to your diagnosis in the first place?).

There are nuances to a lot of medical treatments, I’m about to embark on some treatments with the aim of slowing down a progressive condition. The side effects sound shit but ultimately I’m aiming for quality with a little bit of added quantity if I can! It’ll be shit if I’m one of those in the small percentage whose health is measurably worse because of treatment but ultimately the progression without it is certain enough that the gamble is worth taking.

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 02/12/2023 13:25

There’s also a difference between vaccination injury and having a temporary adverse reaction. Being unwell for a few days is not the former. It’s not nice either but sometimes you have to suck it up because of all the people out there with such severe existing vulnerabilities that they actually WOULD end up vaccine injured. Nobody is arguing that the vaccine is fabulous. It’s not much fun for most of us. It’s better than the alternative both on an individual and societal level.

sunglassesonthetable · 02/12/2023 13:29

fyi if you’re going to trot out lines like ‘The reactions to my posts tell me that people are unable to think for themselves’ you’re pretty much telling anyone that you are following the script of conspiracy. It’s a contradictory one at best anyway, because it’s often used with people who just don’t agree with them, so targeted at people that don’t think like you specifically.

It'll be "baaa..." 🐑 next.

witchypaws · 02/12/2023 13:33

@Cornettoninja yes, constant chest infections, tonsillitis, 8 years of crying at the doctors that something was wrong and nearly losing my job through sickness
Thankfully a locum GP read every blood test over the 8 years, spotted something was wrong and sent me to haematology where I got my diagnosis
If I don't take the medication I have constant infections and am high risk for sepsis

BettyBakesCakes · 02/12/2023 13:34

I felt awful after my third booster so haven't had another.

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 02/12/2023 13:35

@witchypaws sending you loads of sympathy. Sometimes the cure/treatment can feel worse than the disease… until we stop taking the cure and experience the disease.

RampantIvy · 02/12/2023 13:45

@Tzimi that’s a bit flippant. People who regularly take medications with bad side effects don’t have a choice as such, no more than they have a choice about what conditions they’re suffering. People with illnesses such as cancer for example. It’s usually a choice after considering long lists of pros and cons.

I agree. My sister has to take daily drugs for her diabetes. They don't make her feel great, but it is better than the alternative.

Sensible post @CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau

I felt awful after my third booster so haven't had another.

The third jab was the one that made me feel unwell for 24 hours, but the 4th one, which was a different drug had no after effects at all. If you are thinking of having another jab it is worth checking to see which drug they are offering @BettyBakesCakes

IClaudine · 02/12/2023 13:47

I know it is considered rude, but advance searching a particular poster is eye opening. I won't engage with them any further.

sunglassesonthetable · 02/12/2023 13:54

@witchypaws Sorry, it sounds shit with or without.

Tzimi · 02/12/2023 14:52

TerribleWoman · 29/11/2023 14:15

My son aged 15 at the time got pericarditis after his second jab and has been advised to have no more. I am not an anti-vaxxer but I get very frustrated with people claiming it's all tin foil hatted nutters claiming that they had a vaccine reaction. It's easy to sneer until the incredibly rare reaction happens to someone you love.

Why did your 15 year old sone have the vaccine? At that age, being infected with Covid will be a small risk to him, compared with the potential damage from a vaccine, especially if he's had a bad reaction previously!

Parker231 · 02/12/2023 15:02

Jumpingthruhoops · 02/12/2023 10:48

You're right, you don't understand me.
I'm not 'sitting on information'. Like I said, it's all out there for anyone who cares to look. The fact you don't isn't my problem.

You sound like some of the posters from the US I’ve seen on Twitter - claiming millions of deaths from the Covid vaccine but never produce credible data for anyone to review and make an assessment of.

TerribleWoman · 02/12/2023 15:10

Tzimi · 02/12/2023 14:52

Why did your 15 year old sone have the vaccine? At that age, being infected with Covid will be a small risk to him, compared with the potential damage from a vaccine, especially if he's had a bad reaction previously!

Because his sister is CEV.

Cornettoninja · 02/12/2023 15:23

Tzimi · 02/12/2023 14:52

Why did your 15 year old sone have the vaccine? At that age, being infected with Covid will be a small risk to him, compared with the potential damage from a vaccine, especially if he's had a bad reaction previously!

Why are you being contemptuous to someone whose real life experience adds weight to your own position?

Jumpingthruhoops · 02/12/2023 15:58

Parker231 · 02/12/2023 15:02

You sound like some of the posters from the US I’ve seen on Twitter - claiming millions of deaths from the Covid vaccine but never produce credible data for anyone to review and make an assessment of.

Why, for defending the vax injured? Er, OK then...🙄