Really regretting getting the Covid jab (warning pity party)

[FlemCandango]

I had my COVID vaccination on Saturday. I have had all the available boosters since lockdown as I have had some health issues that put me in a "slightly vulnerable to COVID" category.

Went to local chemist had the jab and a charity shop mooch, then came home all fine. 10-12 hours later I start feeling ropey. I know I might be in for a rough night as I have been known to react badly. So I had violent chills, followed by feverishness, crazy fever dreams, headache untouched by paracetamol, couldn't get out of bed for a wee without help, joint pain, nausea, loss of appetite ... This went on for 24 hours. I was still a wreck on Monday, so day off work, Tuesday tired but felt better and felt normal by the evening. I expected to be back at work today.

Then in the middle of the night, chills again I was shivering violently, headache returned plus sore throat and a cough. Most likely an opportunistic virus 🦠 but I am wondering why I put myself through all this🙄

Not sure if the net benefit outweighs the massively inconvenient time off work and feeling like shit-ness of it all.

I will think hard before taking the next booster if offered. I have the flu jab every year - never any issues with that one.

This is what I meant by normal earlier. The ending of population-wide measures.

Thankfully that did end, I recall some thought they would not, but bar more flexibility at work for some society wide measures are generally over

I take the pp on lockdown harms not being small though

Remember all the Great Reset nut jobs going on about how this was the new normal, how we were never going to get our freedom back, etc.?

I don't think anyone thinks lockdowns were a good thing, or denies the harm they caused or that mistakes weren't made. But letting covid run like wildfire through a population with no immunity would have been catastrophic.

I don't see any gaslighting on this thread btw. Such an overused expression that is often deployed by those devoid of ability to discuss issues rationally.

The slogan I remember most is Build Back Better. Boris Johnson spouted it but then so did many other leaders of EU countries, Biden did too. All in unison, almost as though they were on the exact same hymn sheet. So odd. And zero evidence of anything being built back better so far. I actually emailed my MP at that time asking him what exactly Build Back Better entailed. He said it was just something Boris said to sound like he had a plan....

I never really got the great reset stuff. Like when you miss someone’s name at the beginning and then you don’t ask what it is throughout

I do remember some saying nightclubs would never re open and travel would be virtual and probably others bonkers stuff I have forgotten

I actually emailed my MP at that time asking him what exactly Build Back Better entailed. He said it was just something Boris said to sound like he had a plan....

Well we agree on that fraud anyway.

Yes, yes we do. He's unifying in that respect 😆

I could. But I frankly can't be bothered. As I've said before, it's all easy enough to find, you just have to (want to!) look.

Besides, you'll only try to discredit it anyway and this convo is now derailing the thread, which is for people who are discussing how they've been injured - many irreversibly - by the jab. However 'rare' you might think that is...

Not because you 'reply', no. Because you reply in a bitchy fashion. There's a difference.

How's this for an idea: Why not put that energy towards helping the vax injured to have their voices heard? God knows it's taken them long enough.

Pretty sure they're beyond help. The delusion is real...

Pretty sure they're beyond help. The delusion is real...

No it bitchy at all 😉😆

Ah yes... the energetic, highly-choreographed and well-rehearsed TikTok dances that were designed to help the very tired, aching and grumpy medics blow off steam and chill out. I nearly forgot about those clown shows.

DH is a doctor and worked on the Covid wards. It wasn’t their idea to restrict families from saying goodbye to their family members. DH had to hold up iPads so that the families could see each during the patient’s last moments. Then had to move on trying to fit another bed in ICU and get enough ventilators to try and save their lives

@Parker231 I commend that, a show of humanity when the NHS trust has simply ignored the guidance that critically ill patients should have their family visit if wished. Ipads are not remotely adequate but a whole lot better than nothing. Dancing rehearsals, not so much.

I’m presuming everyone who has disparaged the dance TikToks never takes breaks at work and spend the entirety of lockdown working exhausting, heart rending shifts to save lives without any even fleeting activity to raise their own spirits and those of their patients. Didn’t know we still had Puritans in the UK.

I wouldn’t expect all side effects to be on the mainstream news. I do recall the huge stories about the AZ vaccine and blood clot risk in certain age groups.

I have a friend who had a serious neurological impairment from an antibiotic.

I don’t believe there’s vast swathes of medics who disbelieve patients can and do get vaccine injured and are scared of speaking up. Of course those with expertise are aware vaccines and medications can sadly have tragic life changing consequences. In many cases, it is not be possible to 100% prove the vaccine caused the symptoms (even if the doctor is 99.9% sure). This clearly feels unfair and devastating if you are in that group.

Also people can do and sue for negligence and for harm but it takes years and years. I think we will only know the true facts in another 10 years or even more.

Why won’t you share any links or even point people in the right direction?! I don’t want to hear “it’s out there” because if it was, it would be easy to find! I genuinely wouldn’t know where to start.

I want to be educated but if people won’t share information from both sides, it’s impossible. You’re just being cryptic now. Perhaps you’re right but you refuse to even say “it’s in X place”!

I’ve never had a bad reaction to an injection and have a strong immune system as rarely ill. Every time (three times now) I have the covid vax I feel dreadful for about a week. I’m not having it any more.

I'm not 'refusing' or being 'cryptic'.
It's just not something I can be bothered to do for people who argue passionately about a subject... then admit that they in fact don't have all the information and wouldn't know where to look!

Maybe if you talked less about what you think you know and listened more to what people actually know, you might learn something.

I find it weird how quickly some people on this thread are to dismiss comments coming from people that have had bad experiences with the covid jab.

there is a reason why it is no longer mandatory. It is a choice. We are not being forced to take this jab therefore it is a personal choice now. A nurse told me that I don’t need to take it recently - I’m in my early 30s. I won’t take it. I take all other jabs.

my guess is that the covid jab was rolled out at speed during the pandemic as we were in a crisis and there clearly hasn’t been a plan for long covid sufferers - which is awful. Studies are coming out right now which shows us that there still are/were plenty of unknowns. I hope that there is work going into minimising these side effects to make the jab safer should we need it in the future. That’s frightening (for me anyway).

I’m sure it takes years to refine a jab.

Lots of sympathy and no argument against those who are suffering after the jab. However, as I’ve said upthread there is at least as much if not more lack of attention to those who have long COVID, life changing injuries (Michael Rosen for example is half-blind) or lost relatives due to Covid. The virus, not the jab. No, it wasn’t perfect, but on a population level it was needed, provided and had to be taken up by a very large percentage to be effective.

So basically you are trotting out the old and very tired do your own research trope so beloved of conspiracy theorists. Not a good look.

I’ve had such a bad reaction to each booster I’m seriously considering not getting anymore. But, I’ve had all sorts of weird and wonderful tropical vaccinations over the years and had quite bad reactions to them too that I’m beginning to think I’m the problem.

Im pretty anaemic and I do wonder if that’s why I and many others feel so bad. I did see a couple of peer reviewed journals floating this as a reason. Every vaccine has a negative impact on some of the population. I think the government really do need to be clear on the side effects of this vaccine as they do with other vaccines as it might be the only way to prevent the rise of anti-vaxxers who seem to be becoming increasingly paranoid.

@Amortentia you're not the problem, but that doesn’t mean that vaccination isn’t an at least partial solution. You’ll be hard-pressed to find any sort of chemical treatment which doesn’t produce side-effects - for example I also often suffer from severe anaemia too and the only treatment short of blood transfusion is iron, which causes nausea and worsens my IBS no end. My omeprazole (“one of the safest drugs in the world” when I was prescribed it) has worsened my osteoporosis and causes rebound reflux so bad if I miss a dose that I’ve ended up in hospital. Unfortunately vaccinations are normally the lesser evil. I can’t imagine those milkmaids enjoyed having cowpox but if you had told them they would never get smallpox if they had it, they’d be having group hugs in an effort to catch it quicker than you could say “inoculation”.

Same here from the first one. Never had another vaccine. Would never risk it.

@Jumpingthruhoops

I do work in the media. Don't call me a liar. I'm not going to detail exactly who I work for to a bunch of strangers on the internet.

All I'll say is, if you think you have all the information then great. But I know you don't. Just as people didn't have all the information when they took the jab. As is evidenced on this thread.

Okay - so you don't have it, then. Generally, internet etiquette is this: if you say you know something, you should provide the source. It isn't the job of readers to find the detail. Otherwise, it is assumed to be nonsense.

Regarding "didn't have all the information when they took the jab", you're an adult, correct? Where I live, we were bombarded with information about the upcoming vaccination and what to expect. I did some independent research on my own, but there was plenty of information provided before vaccination - translated into many languages, too.