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Really regretting getting the Covid jab (warning pity party)

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FlemCandango · 29/11/2023 12:27

I had my COVID vaccination on Saturday. I have had all the available boosters since lockdown as I have had some health issues that put me in a "slightly vulnerable to COVID" category.

Went to local chemist had the jab and a charity shop mooch, then came home all fine. 10-12 hours later I start feeling ropey. I know I might be in for a rough night as I have been known to react badly. So I had violent chills, followed by feverishness, crazy fever dreams, headache untouched by paracetamol, couldn't get out of bed for a wee without help, joint pain, nausea, loss of appetite ... This went on for 24 hours. I was still a wreck on Monday, so day off work, Tuesday tired but felt better and felt normal by the evening. I expected to be back at work today.

Then in the middle of the night, chills again I was shivering violently, headache returned plus sore throat and a cough. Most likely an opportunistic virus 🦠 but I am wondering why I put myself through all this🙄

Not sure if the net benefit outweighs the massively inconvenient time off work and feeling like shit-ness of it all.

I will think hard before taking the next booster if offered. I have the flu jab every year - never any issues with that one.

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spuddel · 01/12/2023 09:48

My parents regret having them. Mum had three, dad four and it was his fourth, Moderna, that gave him psoriasis and he is in hell with it. I didn't have any on the advice of my GP as it was unknown how auto immune conditions would be affected at that time and I am glad I didn't. Had covid twice, first was ten days of 'worse than a cold, not as bad as the flu'. Second time was a two day wonder.

We may never get back to normal. The Covid pandemic is just the first of what may be infinitely worse pandemics in the future Can't remember who wrote this upthread but what are you basing these worse pandemics on?

EasternStandard · 01/12/2023 09:54

spuddel · 01/12/2023 09:48

My parents regret having them. Mum had three, dad four and it was his fourth, Moderna, that gave him psoriasis and he is in hell with it. I didn't have any on the advice of my GP as it was unknown how auto immune conditions would be affected at that time and I am glad I didn't. Had covid twice, first was ten days of 'worse than a cold, not as bad as the flu'. Second time was a two day wonder.

We may never get back to normal. The Covid pandemic is just the first of what may be infinitely worse pandemics in the future Can't remember who wrote this upthread but what are you basing these worse pandemics on?

We may never get back to normal.

Not sure of pp this was in either. But we are back to normal

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 01/12/2023 10:03

It was me. I’m basing my statement on the fact that climate change is likely to make currently endemic diseases, such as malaria, pandemics, and it is widely speculated in the climate science community that there are viruses that modern humans have no ability to deal with that will be released with melting icecaps.

If you think we’re back to normal, ask a medical professional or even just go to a hospital. They’re not back to normal. Society is still trying to catch up with a multitude of effects and side-effects of the pandemic. People with long Covid aren’t back to normal. People who were deprioritised in the NHS because they weren’t struggling to breathe because of Covid at that exact moment were deprioritised. Schoolchildren had extremely abnormal years out of school. People who lost family members and couldn’t say goodbye definitely aren’t back to normal.

spuddel · 01/12/2023 11:10

I’m basing my statement on the fact that climate change is likely to make currently endemic diseases, such as malaria, pandemics, and it is widely speculated in the climate science community that there are viruses that modern humans have no ability to deal with that will be released with melting icecaps.

Yeah, not remotely enough certainty of anything there. And given the likelihood of covid originating from a lab, I think the speculation on climate pandemics is way off.

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 01/12/2023 12:05

Yep, failure to prepare for an epidemic/pandemic REALLY helped us during Covid. But you keep your head under the sand, I’m sure it’s comfortable.

RampantIvy · 01/12/2023 12:06

We are only now beginning to see the effects this at best useless and at worst harmful vaccine has had
What really pissed me off is the arrogance of the pro-vaxxers who were/are cocksure it was safe.

Why are you so sure that it was useless? It’s just as arrogant to assume it was a waste of resources and dangerous as to assert that it was the best thing since sliced bread.

No medication is completely risk free or side effect free. The medical profession always weigh up risk vs benefit, and with the scarce knowledge they had at the time the view was that the less risky option was to vaccinate.

It will take several years of research and data collection before we get the full picture. Yes, we were all guinea pigs, but for me and many people we were happy to take the risk

Jumpingthruhoops · 01/12/2023 12:06

sunglassesonthetable · 01/12/2023 06:31

*Not sure why I've bothered but here's a link from Ofcom's website re: broadcasting standards. Took me all of 10 seconds to find.

@Jumpingthruhoops*

Cheers but I I read it when you first mentioned it yesterday. Your description of what are basic guidelines - is pretty hilarious.

But drama! I suppose.

OK, whatever. You seem to have a real bit between your teeth about this. Why is that?

They are not 'basic' guidelines at all. They are a detailed guide of what broadcasters could and could not say during the pandemic - and like a PP said, this means some information WAS hidden from the public. Seems that doesn't really bother you, though...

Jumpingthruhoops · 01/12/2023 12:16

CouchCat · 01/12/2023 04:51

Thanks for posting this. I've had a read through and, quite honestly, cannot see a problem. I can't see the 'gagging' you mention. I do see guidelines - reasonable ones - and if you don't understand why they might be required, particularly in a pandemic environment, then you don't work in media.

I'm surprised there isn't more breaches, actually. That David Icke one illustrates the point well.

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I do work in the media. Don't call me a liar. I'm not going to detail exactly who I work for to a bunch of strangers on the internet.

All I'll say is, if you think you have all the information then great. But I know you don't. Just as people didn't have all the information when they took the jab. As is evidenced on this thread.

spuddel · 01/12/2023 12:22

But you keep your head under the sand, I’m sure it’s comfortable Not wholesale swallowing the climate terror is not having my head in the sand. The pandemic damage we are still suffering from is a direct result of lockdowns, not the virus. HTH 😉

IClaudine · 01/12/2023 12:32

All I'll say is, if you think you have all the information then great. But I know you don't

Can you link to the information you know that others don't?

sunglassesonthetable · 01/12/2023 12:36

*OK, whatever. You seem to have a real bit between your teeth about this. Why is that?

They are not 'basic' guidelines at all. They are a detailed guide of what broadcasters could and could not say during the pandemic - and like a PP said, this means some information WAS hidden from the public. Seems that doesn't really bother you, though...*

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 01/12/2023 12:52

@spuddel try saying that to someone with long Covid. Or a member of medical staff wrestling with the burnout and exhaustion of dealing with this for three long years. And the pandemic response was a (fairly) scientifically informed lot of necessary responses to the virus. They weren’t just doing it for shits and giggles. Given that the government of the time was of the libertarian persuasion, they probably extra-didn’t want to do it. It wasn’t perfectly executed but there isn’t a possible motive for for locking down that doesn’t belong with the “Royal Family are lizards” people - unless you can think of one. “I just want control” belongs in a book for children under 10 as a motive.

Medical history is littered with mistakes and errors, and just as much with well-meaning clinicians keener to help people than they were to double-triple-check it would be safe at all times, invariably. It never is, anyway.

sunglassesonthetable · 01/12/2023 12:52

OK, whatever. You seem to have a real bit between your teeth about this. Why is that?

What because I reply? Same as you?

My interest in discussing stuff with randoms is neither here nor there. Like yours. So leave off because you're still bouncing back to chirp.

Obviously you're on some higher plane of rationale than anyone else who can read. And you'd think no one else worked " in Media. I do.

Yep guide lines.

spuddel · 01/12/2023 13:05

It was not even (fairly) scientifically informed. It was all on the heels of modelling from The Science and caused catastrophic harm to almost every stratum of society. Essentially, the lockdowns and the vaccine mandates are manifest signs of a society teetering on the brink of totalitarianism. At the very start of the pandemic, the Diamond Princess ship outbreak showed very clearly the infection fatality rate was nothing like the modelling suggested. Dr Ioannidis went from vastly respected/cited scientist to pariah when he pointed this out. People were indeed silenced if they questioned things, that's sinister. As for the vaccine ever moving goal post, only an ostrich would deny they were initially for the elderly and vulnerable until suddenly they were for school children and mandated to go to Barcelona! I still have a screenshot of Pfizer's tweet crowing they had emergency use authorisation for the manufacture of their covid vax to prevent covid. Except it didn't. So no, I don't believe everyone did their best. And the dancing medics can fuck off too with their Jerusalema.

sunglassesonthetable · 01/12/2023 13:13

So no, I don't believe everyone did their best. And the dancing medics can fuck off too with their Jerusalema.

Cute.

Remember this stuff, abuse and ridicule went both ways.

Sickofatrocity · 01/12/2023 13:16

I had COVID recently and it was fucking horrendous. Better a jab than the real thing.

spuddel · 01/12/2023 13:20

Oh boo hoo it went both ways. People lost their jobs for refusing this vaccine, didn't get to say goodbye to loved ones in 'ring of steel' care homes that over prescribed Midazolam because hospitals refused to take the poor people. If you don't like the truth, that doctors and nurses doing tiktok dances while elders died alone in terror is horrific, I can't help you.

sunglassesonthetable · 01/12/2023 13:26

Oh boo hoo it went both ways. People lost their jobs for refusing this vaccine, didn't get to say goodbye to loved ones in 'ring of steel' care homes that over prescribed Midazolam because hospitals refused to take the poor people. If you don't like the truth, that doctors and nurses doing tiktok dances while elders died alone in terror is horrific, I can't help you.

I doubt you can help me regardless.

Lots of really shit stuff happened along with lots of people dying.

And if that's how you sum up the medical staff working through the pandemic crack on. Another cute tweet that says more about you.

spuddel · 01/12/2023 13:29

You may be hard of understanding but despising medics tiktoks mid pandemic is not summing up their total work now is it?

sunglassesonthetable · 01/12/2023 13:30

You may be hard of understanding but despising medics tiktoks mid pandemic is not summing up their total work now is it?

I'm sure we can both understand what you're saying.

spuddel · 01/12/2023 13:31

Oh really? What's that then?

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 01/12/2023 13:56

Carmargo · 01/12/2023 07:18

I don't understand those who had such faith in the vaccine, can't they see we're all just human guinea pigs for it? I mean isn't that just blatantly obvious. Science is also about seeing the effects, 'in the wild' is it not?

Fair enough, taking it as a desperate measure or for the good of others, get back to normal but what really pisses me off is the misplaced confidence in it.

I was in a fortunate position to hold out against having it in spite of huge pressure and coercion, I held out and now the pressure's off.

I'm glad I did. Condolences to those who weren't able to be so lucky.

We are only now beginning to see the effects this at best useless and at worst harmful vaccine has had.

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I agree with you. I find that those people who have never been harmed or injured by meds or vaccines are more likely to be less tolerant of those who have, and I've experienced a lot of gaslighting and lack of compassion/understanding from many people, family, medical professionals etc, who dismiss my movement disorder as something I'm exaggerating.

Only when you have been injured by these drugs do you see how harmful they can be. Those who are fortunate to be able to take them with no side effects should try to see how they can be more tolerant of the med injured.

Being gaslighted by others is adding another layer of injury.

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 01/12/2023 13:58

Disagreeing with someone and wanting to have population-wide health measures in place is not gaslighting. Just not even approaching it.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 01/12/2023 14:05

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 01/12/2023 13:58

Disagreeing with someone and wanting to have population-wide health measures in place is not gaslighting. Just not even approaching it.

Well, not in the true sense of the word, no. But the number of people who blindly take the drugs without question is quite frankly more concerning than the gaslighting.

I used to be able to take any medication without any problems. 9 years of having to inform every medical professional when I have any procedure that they need to ensure the drugs they are giving me won't exacerbate my involuntary movements or increase my Parkinson's/Tourette's like twitchyness gets a bit tiring after a while. So, understandably, I like to think a bit more in depth about what I take and how.

I'm pretty sure others who have been injured by drugs follow the same principles too. It's called being careful.

JenniferJuniper80 · 01/12/2023 14:07

Think yourself lucky you didn't actually have covid!

It could have killed you!!!