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Really regretting getting the Covid jab (warning pity party)

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FlemCandango · 29/11/2023 12:27

I had my COVID vaccination on Saturday. I have had all the available boosters since lockdown as I have had some health issues that put me in a "slightly vulnerable to COVID" category.

Went to local chemist had the jab and a charity shop mooch, then came home all fine. 10-12 hours later I start feeling ropey. I know I might be in for a rough night as I have been known to react badly. So I had violent chills, followed by feverishness, crazy fever dreams, headache untouched by paracetamol, couldn't get out of bed for a wee without help, joint pain, nausea, loss of appetite ... This went on for 24 hours. I was still a wreck on Monday, so day off work, Tuesday tired but felt better and felt normal by the evening. I expected to be back at work today.

Then in the middle of the night, chills again I was shivering violently, headache returned plus sore throat and a cough. Most likely an opportunistic virus 🦠 but I am wondering why I put myself through all this🙄

Not sure if the net benefit outweighs the massively inconvenient time off work and feeling like shit-ness of it all.

I will think hard before taking the next booster if offered. I have the flu jab every year - never any issues with that one.

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Jumpingthruhoops · 30/11/2023 17:06

IClaudine · 30/11/2023 16:21

Yes, information about 'issues' relating to the jab has always been available. Those issues being sore arm, fatigue, flu-like symptoms etc. Not 'issues' like neurological conditions, facial paralysis and myocarditis!

Information on adverse events was published and freely available from February 2021 and continued to be published. There is plenty of information out there for people who might be concerned about getting the vaccination. Plus the PILs that are handed out to everyone who has a vaccination.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions#full-publication-update-history

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That's what I said: Yes, the information is 'out there' - but with lots of those significant side effects detailed as 'rare'. Which is simply not the case.

Oh, and as I understand it, the PIL is given AFTER the jab is administered. I would have thought people need that information beforehand, in order to be able to give 'informed consent'?

But if you're confident that the whole thing has been totally transparent then fair play to you. I mean, it's not like Pfi3er wanted to hold onto this information for 75 years or anything...

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 30/11/2023 17:08

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 30/11/2023 16:31

What a lot of drama on this thread. The statistics do not bear out the mass claims of ill health. Classic conspiracy theory. Have it or don't, but stop whining about it.

Remind me to tell the consultant who diagnosed me with vaccine injury about the depth of understanding in your post.

Im pro vax. Yet still had a vaccine injury. How is this a conspiracy theory? I get full rate PIP for my injury.

sunglassesonthetable · 30/11/2023 17:09

That's what I said: Yes, the information is 'out there' - but with lots of those significant side effects detailed as 'rare'. Which is simply not the case.

It simply is the case.
*
Oh, and as I understand it, the PIL is given AFTER the jab is administered. I would have thought people need that information beforehand, in order to be able to give 'informed consent'?*

Sigh

sunglassesonthetable · 30/11/2023 17:15

Im pro vax. Yet still had a vaccine injury. How is this a conspiracy theory? I get full rate PIP for my injury.

Sadly for people with your type of injury and it must be devastating, you get associated with alot of conspiracy theory types on here.

They tarnish your situation.

IClaudine · 30/11/2023 17:32

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 30/11/2023 17:08

Remind me to tell the consultant who diagnosed me with vaccine injury about the depth of understanding in your post.

Im pro vax. Yet still had a vaccine injury. How is this a conspiracy theory? I get full rate PIP for my injury.

That is bloody awful, arse and I am sorry this happened to you. I remember well that you have always been pro-vax and called out plenty of the lunatic theories that were spread on mumsnet right from the start of the pandemic and the development of the vaccine.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 30/11/2023 17:45

sunglassesonthetable · 30/11/2023 17:15

Im pro vax. Yet still had a vaccine injury. How is this a conspiracy theory? I get full rate PIP for my injury.

Sadly for people with your type of injury and it must be devastating, you get associated with alot of conspiracy theory types on here.

They tarnish your situation.

I know, and that’s why it’s so hard to get it into the mainstream. I’ve got what’s called Long Vax. It’s now being investigated by Yale and Harvard. But from what l understand medics have been reluctant to advance investigations in case conspiracy theory idiots got hold of it.

This means that the search for a cure has been postponed again in case the nut jobs jump on it. Basically the vaccine triggered an overreaction of the neuroimmune system and triggered Long Covid symptoms.

Still absolutely suppprt vaccines though.

sunglassesonthetable · 30/11/2023 17:48

I* know, and that’s why it’s so hard to get it into the mainstream. I’ve got what’s called Long Vax. It’s now being investigated by Yale and Harvard. But from what l understand medics have been reluctant to advance investigations in case conspiracy theory idiots got hold of it.

This means that the search for a cure has been postponed again in case the nut jobs jump on it. Basically the vaccine triggered an overreaction of the neuroimmune system and triggered Long Covid symptoms.

Still absolutely suppprt vaccines though.*

So sorry @ArseInTheCoOpWindow That sounds trite but I mean it.

I hope the situation changes.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 30/11/2023 17:52

Thank you😊

Lavenderosemary · 30/11/2023 17:58

In reply to the poster saying she couldn't get out of bed post vax, and the person replying to say it was coincidence. After my first vax I was REALLY unwell for about 5 days. Properly ill. Sweats, chills, horrific joints, headache from hell which was relentless for about three weeks. I'd never had a vax reaction in my life, and it took me days for the penny to drop. I've had this with every booster since, but only a fraction as strong.

The covid vax overall was a good thing. But this intimidating atmosphere whereby noone was allowed to even hint at any negatives wasnt healthy or ethically right. The genuine side effects and risks were hidden and people were not able to discuss them. That needs to never happen again. Open and accurate information and discussion needs to be freely had.

sunglassesonthetable · 30/11/2023 18:06

But this intimidating atmosphere whereby noone was allowed to even hint at any negatives wasnt healthy or ethically right. The genuine side effects and risks were hidden and people were not able to discuss them. That needs to never happen again. Open and accurate information and discussion needs to be freely had.

Where do you mean no one was allowed to hint at negatives?

That was about all you saw on SM.

Yippezippie · 30/11/2023 18:17

@sunglassesonthetable agree with whoever you quoted. Any mention of worry or concern about vaccine and your an anti vax loon etc it was awful.

sunglassesonthetable · 30/11/2023 18:27

that was @Lavenderosemary .

Do you mean on mums net? on social media, generally all you'd ever see was criticism of the Covid VAX.

sunglassesonthetable · 30/11/2023 18:28

@Yippezippie

Teder · 30/11/2023 19:04

Jumpingthruhoops · 30/11/2023 17:06

That's what I said: Yes, the information is 'out there' - but with lots of those significant side effects detailed as 'rare'. Which is simply not the case.

Oh, and as I understand it, the PIL is given AFTER the jab is administered. I would have thought people need that information beforehand, in order to be able to give 'informed consent'?

But if you're confident that the whole thing has been totally transparent then fair play to you. I mean, it's not like Pfi3er wanted to hold onto this information for 75 years or anything...

If you don’t understand informed consent (and you don’t!) then stop acting like you’re an expert with insider information. If there was a cover up and the information is “out there” then share it.

I cannot imagine withholding information that could benefit people who’ve been severely vaccine injured or the families of those who’ve died unnecessarily. I wouldn’t choose to piss about posting cryptic stuff on an anonymous parenting forum. By not sharing how you know there’s misinformation, you are just as bad as the people you profess to be criticising!

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 30/11/2023 19:11

Sadly most side effects of most drugs are underreported.

derxa · 30/11/2023 19:16

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 30/11/2023 17:08

Remind me to tell the consultant who diagnosed me with vaccine injury about the depth of understanding in your post.

Im pro vax. Yet still had a vaccine injury. How is this a conspiracy theory? I get full rate PIP for my injury.

I'm sorry about your ill health @ArseInTheCoOpWindow My consultant dermatologist agreed that it was likely that my (very severe) psoriasis was triggered by the vaccine. Dermatology depts are overrun. It was on the news the other evening. I had never had any skin condition before the vaccine. I never had covid itself. I will never be free of it. I would post pictures of the residual plaques if anyone is questioning this.

derxa · 30/11/2023 19:19

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 30/11/2023 19:11

Sadly most side effects of most drugs are underreported.

Yes Record incidents on here.

Jumpingthruhoops · 30/11/2023 21:13

sunglassesonthetable · 30/11/2023 16:42

*How do I know? I work in the industry.

But I'm not here to convince you of anything. I'm here to support those highlighting serious health issues, who are STILL being gaslit by the govt, the media... and people on Mumsnet!*

the industry?

and you know the press were gagged and you want to help people and you're tiddling around on MN?

Give us a break @Jumpingthruhoops

Like I said, I don't have to convince you of anything. Have a nice evening.

Jumpingthruhoops · 30/11/2023 21:28

Teder · 30/11/2023 19:04

If you don’t understand informed consent (and you don’t!) then stop acting like you’re an expert with insider information. If there was a cover up and the information is “out there” then share it.

I cannot imagine withholding information that could benefit people who’ve been severely vaccine injured or the families of those who’ve died unnecessarily. I wouldn’t choose to piss about posting cryptic stuff on an anonymous parenting forum. By not sharing how you know there’s misinformation, you are just as bad as the people you profess to be criticising!

I don't think I'm an expert in anything. I've shared what I think is enough to maybe prompt others to look into what I'm saying for themselves.

I spent the best part of three years trying to inform people of various things - only to be met with insults and the inevitable (and incredibly boring!) cries of 'conspiracy theorist' and 'anti-vaxxer' and, quite frankly, I'm over it.
At this point, I really don't think I'm saying anything that people don't know - and if they don't know then they've simply not been paying attention.

So, respectfully, do a bit of digging for yourself or don't. Couldn't care less.

If this thread is anything to go by. I'm just glad people feel more able to speak freely about their lived experiences. Finally.

Jumpingthruhoops · 30/11/2023 21:31

Lavenderosemary · 30/11/2023 17:58

In reply to the poster saying she couldn't get out of bed post vax, and the person replying to say it was coincidence. After my first vax I was REALLY unwell for about 5 days. Properly ill. Sweats, chills, horrific joints, headache from hell which was relentless for about three weeks. I'd never had a vax reaction in my life, and it took me days for the penny to drop. I've had this with every booster since, but only a fraction as strong.

The covid vax overall was a good thing. But this intimidating atmosphere whereby noone was allowed to even hint at any negatives wasnt healthy or ethically right. The genuine side effects and risks were hidden and people were not able to discuss them. That needs to never happen again. Open and accurate information and discussion needs to be freely had.

This! 👏👏

sunglassesonthetable · 30/11/2023 21:42

Like I said, I don't have to convince you of anything. Have a nice evening.

Course you don't. And you haven't .

You sound the opposite of convincing. You've said nothing that stacks up.

sunglassesonthetable · 30/11/2023 21:54

I spent the best part of three years trying to inform people of various things

You need to try harder then. Because if MN is your method it isn't happening.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 30/11/2023 22:06

Teder · 30/11/2023 19:04

If you don’t understand informed consent (and you don’t!) then stop acting like you’re an expert with insider information. If there was a cover up and the information is “out there” then share it.

I cannot imagine withholding information that could benefit people who’ve been severely vaccine injured or the families of those who’ve died unnecessarily. I wouldn’t choose to piss about posting cryptic stuff on an anonymous parenting forum. By not sharing how you know there’s misinformation, you are just as bad as the people you profess to be criticising!

Actually as an injured person and rabid pro vax l disagree.

Side effects have been hushed up. Like l said medics were too scared to be open about Long Vax as it would be hijacked by anti vaxers. A huge number of people on the various groups I’m in have lots of neurological issues, some of them severe. But this isn’t in the mainstream news.

And because it isn’t, it’s championed by dickheads like Bridgen or Chopes which do nothing to help the cause.

I think it’s being kept quiet because of the huge payout it could cost governments and the drug companies. I mean we all took one for the team and there’s shit all compensation. And that’s how they want to keep it.

2 women got burnt fingertips from AZ in Taiwan. They were awarded 20,000 dollars each.

I can’t leave my house, do hobbies, work or drive. Often l can’t get out of bed. I can get the max of 120k from a scheme that only accepts 5% of claims. And they want to keep it like that. This is why it’s kept quiet. Pfizer contacted my GP about my side effects. This is tantamount to accepting responsibility in my eyes. But l won’t get any help.

Jumpingthruhoops · 30/11/2023 23:11

sunglassesonthetable · 30/11/2023 21:54

I spent the best part of three years trying to inform people of various things

You need to try harder then. Because if MN is your method it isn't happening.

Funnily enough, many said this would happen too... that when those who'd had the jab DID start talking about vax injuries, people like me would be slated for 'not saying enough' 🙄 Which is pretty much what you've just done. So thanks for that. 👍

Jumpingthruhoops · 30/11/2023 23:27

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 30/11/2023 22:06

Actually as an injured person and rabid pro vax l disagree.

Side effects have been hushed up. Like l said medics were too scared to be open about Long Vax as it would be hijacked by anti vaxers. A huge number of people on the various groups I’m in have lots of neurological issues, some of them severe. But this isn’t in the mainstream news.

And because it isn’t, it’s championed by dickheads like Bridgen or Chopes which do nothing to help the cause.

I think it’s being kept quiet because of the huge payout it could cost governments and the drug companies. I mean we all took one for the team and there’s shit all compensation. And that’s how they want to keep it.

2 women got burnt fingertips from AZ in Taiwan. They were awarded 20,000 dollars each.

I can’t leave my house, do hobbies, work or drive. Often l can’t get out of bed. I can get the max of 120k from a scheme that only accepts 5% of claims. And they want to keep it like that. This is why it’s kept quiet. Pfizer contacted my GP about my side effects. This is tantamount to accepting responsibility in my eyes. But l won’t get any help.

Am so sorry to hear you're going through this... everything you say here about govt and Big Pharma is spot on. That's exactly how I see it.

You highlight an important point about why people can't discuss it... because the media, protecting the interests of BP and the govt, saw to it that anyone who questioned ANYTHING was immediately condemned as a 'conspiracy theorist' and 'anti-vaxxer', so people with legitimate concerns have been too afraid to speak up. Some of whom whose lives are now completely ruined because they, as you say, 'took one for the team'.

Those of us who did speak up and who were loudly condemned, insulted, ridiculed and ignored are now being told we weren't loud enough - someone has just done exactly that on this thread.

Thank you for telling your story. Really hope you get the help you need.

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