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To delete my Guardian account

156 replies

Finlesswonder · 28/11/2023 21:20

I'm fed up with them. They were always pretty heavy handed but now it's like they zap anything that doesn't perfectly tow their "party line". This morning I saw the most banal comment get deleted and I have also been modded for no reason IMO.

To top it all off I'm just so sick of seeing a "colonialism is alive and well: here's why" article literally every week.

AIBU to delete my account on the guardian and move to a new paper? Feels sad, I've been reading the G for 20 years. Where do I go?

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/11/2023 21:21

YANBU.

Circumferences · 28/11/2023 21:23

It's not a "news outlet"- it's propaganda, and of the sort that does not represent the UK or it's people at all.
I can't even click on the Guardian these days even though I intend to vote Labour and have basic left wing principles.

Howlongdoesittaketoheal · 28/11/2023 21:26

I read it and other news sources and it’s the only news source that still seems to dig deep and do proper investigative journalism.

I know it’s left leaning but comparing to BBC, DM, I, it’s so much more in-depth. And seems to be the only news source reporting honestly on climate change.

Londonrach1 · 28/11/2023 21:30

Sadly all papers the same...yanbu

QueenOfHiraeth · 28/11/2023 21:30

It's not news any more. The Guardian is just as bad as conspiracy theorists, it has decided what it thinks and will ignore any evidence or argument to the contrary.
I gave it up a few years back

Finlesswonder · 28/11/2023 21:32

Apparently you can delete your account but you can only have all your comments deleted if you appeal to their mods, and they decide on a "case by case" basis

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ilovetomatoes · 28/11/2023 21:37

Try the FT, factual quality reporting

MargaritaThyme · 28/11/2023 21:40

I gave up on the Grauniad a couple of years ago, after having a ‘Comment is Free’ (ha ha) account since online comments started. They became completely draconian in deleting anything which even slightly differed from the strict left / liberal / woke worldview. It used to be an interesting place, but became a one-dimensional echo chamber every bit as bad as FWR on here.

TheNoonBell · 28/11/2023 21:41

Reading the Guardian feels like entering a parallel universe these days.

sashagabadon · 28/11/2023 21:42

It’s an utterly depressing paper filled with miserable columnists. I stopped buying it about 4 years ago but read for free on line now and then but it’s never a positive enjoyable experience and I always regret it!

Finlesswonder · 28/11/2023 21:49

Absolutely, I wouldn't even describe it as left wing/labour voter paper anymore, more like a kind of trans-Anglo mag for moneyed green voters I'd say. I got modded for, underneath an article about a controversial figure, putting a quote by said person. No other comment of my own, just:

"XXXXXXX"

  • "Interviewee"

Like WTF?!

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MargaritaThyme · 28/11/2023 22:05

It seems to me that several years ago they made a strategic decision to pivot towards a US audience, and to American racial / identity / culture war politics in particular. Having done that, they then refused to tolerate any dissenting view, for fear of their new target market turning on them and cancelling them. And so they destroyed a once-great newspaper.

Toytransportemergency · 28/11/2023 22:05

They have an awful article about organ donation today. It’s based around American patients and this is clear, but the article contains inaccurate quotes which would be upsetting to read if your loved ones had donated organs. Clearly no actual research done and just prints the opinions of people as fact. Which is a shame because it was about brain death and some families feeling that their loved ones were “harvested” for organs and how legislation is to be introduced to standardise the process, and explains how only the wealthy can expect to receive organs yet the poor are often expected to donate.
Anyway, my point is, the article was shit and was IMO propaganda for pro-life groups who think brain dead patients should be kept alive.

EdithStourton · 28/11/2023 22:08

I barely click on Guardian articles these days. Utterly joy-sucking and entirely predictable.

TBH they have been that way for a long time. A good ten years ago I read a typical doom and gloom the-world-is-ending piece of nature writing they'd published, all about 'Who now sees fields red with brilliant poppies, or ever hears the song of the skylark?' I then took the dogs for a walk and lo and bloody behold, found myself walking next to a wheat field sporting a fabulous load of poppies, and no sooner was one skylark out of earshot than I could hear the next.

At that point I decided that they had NFI what they were on about. We all know there are issues with wildlife in the UK, but amping it to the max just made them look stupid.

ilovetomatoes · 28/11/2023 22:09

The beauty column in the observer grinds my gears. Rarely anything below £50 and frequently products well over £100! Sums it up really.

Xiaoxiong · 28/11/2023 22:10

I started feeling like this around the time of the Brexit vote - having been a very loyal daily Guardian reader, I now read the FT, the Times, BBC news (which all have excellent climate change coverage), Private Eye, and the New Statesman. I feel like that gives me a wide range of views without resorting to the daily Mail or the guardian who both make me feel emotionally manipulated.

justasking111 · 28/11/2023 22:11

The Gates Foundation gave them a lot of money also the Telegraph I think. It's very interesting where his money is going.

Thepeopleversuswork · 28/11/2023 22:11

The Guardian has been ridiculous for years. Collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions: pretending to be left wing but actually stuffed full of content (both editorial and advertising) which is designed for a laughably tiny liberal elite. It has no idea who it's aimed at any more. The trans row tipped it over into being a joke. Plus I hate the ridiculous begging letters it puts at the bottom of every article. If you could actually make your business model work properly you wouldn't need to beg people for money.
It's a shame because it used to be a great paper and it still occasionally does good investigations but I can't see the point of it these days.

Rightsraptor · 28/11/2023 22:12

The Guardian has been very open about how it now aims for the young digital market in the US. They are not interested in us back in Blighty. Give the bastards what they deserve: a wide berth.

Cel77 · 28/11/2023 22:13

The Guardian is the only paper left with a bit of humanity and decency. But it's up to you!

justasking111 · 28/11/2023 22:14

"How Bill Gates bankrolls the media outlet that claims it’s not backed by billionaires - Khmer Times" https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50975405/how-bill-gates-bankrolls-the-media-outlet-that-claims-its-not-backed-by-billionaires/

Finlesswonder · 28/11/2023 22:17

@Xiaoxiong
I agree, I voted Remain and Brexit also required me to seriously up end my life, but nowadays I go on an article about, say, forests in Spain*, and literally 80% of the comments are people saying "Hey! At least Spain has forests! We don't have forests anymore because we left the EU, just another day in fucked up broken Tory Brexit Britain!!!111".

*Could also be domestic politics in NL, tourism in France, theatre news in Italy....anything really

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Trouves · 28/11/2023 22:19

YA definitely NBA.

The Grauniad is beyond parody.

Whydowomendothistothemselves · 28/11/2023 22:28

Denial of the safeguarding needs of women, and specific denial that the WiSpa incident happened. Denial of mass rapes in Cologne. Saying that a Jewish woman in Israel who was kidnapped, raped, beaten, paraded through the streets naked and beheaded was "caught up" in the conflict.

Fuck the Guardian.

Sonia Sodha at the Observer is the only saving grace.

guinnessguzzler · 28/11/2023 22:29

I've not read it since they sacked Steve Bell. A few good suggestions on here as to how to fill the void.