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To delete my Guardian account

156 replies

Finlesswonder · 28/11/2023 21:20

I'm fed up with them. They were always pretty heavy handed but now it's like they zap anything that doesn't perfectly tow their "party line". This morning I saw the most banal comment get deleted and I have also been modded for no reason IMO.

To top it all off I'm just so sick of seeing a "colonialism is alive and well: here's why" article literally every week.

AIBU to delete my account on the guardian and move to a new paper? Feels sad, I've been reading the G for 20 years. Where do I go?

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SinnerBoy · 29/11/2023 11:15

Helleofabore · Today 08:38

Perhaps the difference is the emotional connection so many feel for the Guardian.

I agree with much of the comments here, but that one really resonates for me. I went to an FE college, aged 23, to do GCSEs and discovered it in the Library. I really did enjoy reading it, it had well written and thought provoking news articles and wonderful columnists.

I was still buying it when they took the Berliner format and I started to think that it was going downhill at that time, but it's really gone down a rabbit hole now. There's the odd bit of decent reporting, such as the Crown Estates and Queen's influence on Parliament, mentioned upthread. The science section is pretty good, but has less content than of old.

I haven't bought it since before Covid, because of their editorial stance. Keeping LOJ and forcing Hadley Freeman and Suzanne Moore was just too much for me, but I'll read odds and sods online, without subscribing to the bastards.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 29/11/2023 11:19

Given the number of Mail readers on this site, you’re bound to be told YANBU.

The Guardian reports stuff that the right wing press does not. It’s invaluable.

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/11/2023 11:46

YANBU. I used to be a regular reader, but gave up before Brexit. Not enough News, too many Opinion pieces. I sometimes read articles online and bung them a couple of quid every now and then.

They "cancelled" Dawn Foster because Tom Watson asked them.Angry

KimberleyClark · 29/11/2023 11:51

ilovetomatoes · 28/11/2023 22:09

The beauty column in the observer grinds my gears. Rarely anything below £50 and frequently products well over £100! Sums it up really.

Fashion articles are the same, nothing is ever reasonably priced, just go do they think their readers are?

Fiddlesticksand · 29/11/2023 12:05

jeaux90 · 28/11/2023 22:55

Totally agree OP the hounding out of Suzanne Moore and Hadley Freeman, their utterly disgraceful coverage of anything to do with women's rights. I was done a couple of years back.

This

Verv · 29/11/2023 12:06

YANBU, they're shit for women, and shit at accurate reporting.

SingleMum11 · 29/11/2023 12:10

I think the Guardian needs to ask itself, why it considers itself social justice when so little of it’s readership are actually poor or marginalised.

BeggyMitchell · 29/11/2023 12:26

YANBU.

BIossomtoes · 29/11/2023 12:34

SingleMum11 · 29/11/2023 12:10

I think the Guardian needs to ask itself, why it considers itself social justice when so little of it’s readership are actually poor or marginalised.

The poor and marginalised have no influence or power. Social justice comes from influencing those people who are in a position to provide the funding to remedy it. There would have been no successful suffragist movement or Labour Party if they’d relied on the poor and marginalised.

BeggyMitchell · 29/11/2023 13:34

Maddy70 · 29/11/2023 08:29

I think yabu to ask here

If you dont like something you're paying a subscription for then you cancel it thats a normal thing to do . Why start a thread?

Er. Why start a thread about anything? OP wants to discuss it.

Desecratedcoconut · 29/11/2023 13:40

BIossomtoes · 29/11/2023 12:34

The poor and marginalised have no influence or power. Social justice comes from influencing those people who are in a position to provide the funding to remedy it. There would have been no successful suffragist movement or Labour Party if they’d relied on the poor and marginalised.

You can't represent the interests of the poor when when spend you whole time telling them off for voting for the wrong person or thinking the wrong thoughts.

TerfTalking · 29/11/2023 13:49

I was going to mention Owen Jones is enough for me to never ever read this paper again. I can see I'm not alone. Hideous man.

newnamethanks · 29/11/2023 13:51

Somehow I'm not convinced this is a thread of ex Guardian readers. It's all a little intemperate. And, again, WINDRUSH. Thank you Amelia Gentleman and the Guardian, without these Windrush would have remained unnoticed and unvoiced.

SingleMum11 · 29/11/2023 13:58

BIossomtoes · 29/11/2023 12:34

The poor and marginalised have no influence or power. Social justice comes from influencing those people who are in a position to provide the funding to remedy it. There would have been no successful suffragist movement or Labour Party if they’d relied on the poor and marginalised.

The poor and marginalised can read!

It’s patronising in the extreme to say ‘you poor margainlised people can’t possibly think for yourselves, we can as we are influential and we read the Guardian. We won’t give up our influential status though… ’

BIossomtoes · 29/11/2023 14:14

SingleMum11 · 29/11/2023 13:58

The poor and marginalised can read!

It’s patronising in the extreme to say ‘you poor margainlised people can’t possibly think for yourselves, we can as we are influential and we read the Guardian. We won’t give up our influential status though… ’

Nobody mentioned anyone not being able to think for themselves. That’s obvious bollocks. Every cause needs the support of those with power, influence and money to succeed. There’s nothing patronising about that. It’s reality.

newnamethanks · 29/11/2023 14:19

See what I mean? Off the bridge.

parsleyred · 29/11/2023 14:20

newnamethanks · 29/11/2023 13:51

Somehow I'm not convinced this is a thread of ex Guardian readers. It's all a little intemperate. And, again, WINDRUSH. Thank you Amelia Gentleman and the Guardian, without these Windrush would have remained unnoticed and unvoiced.

I'm still reading as I don't know what the alternative is for me yet. Definitely not the Telegraph. I realise there are plenty of other options but I've been reading out of habit.

AgnesX · 29/11/2023 14:22

The online papers are rags anyway with far too many people invested in what's BTL as if they need other people to reinforce their opinions.

BeggyMitchell · 29/11/2023 14:36

newnamethanks · 29/11/2023 13:51

Somehow I'm not convinced this is a thread of ex Guardian readers. It's all a little intemperate. And, again, WINDRUSH. Thank you Amelia Gentleman and the Guardian, without these Windrush would have remained unnoticed and unvoiced.

I was a Guardian/Observer reader for near on two decades. Also a lifelong Labour voter.

Both have gone down the toilet imho.

LadyBevvy · 29/11/2023 14:40

The fact that they've chosen to keep Owen Jones the misogynist bully is reason enough not to read it

not that I've read it seriously since about 2009 when I finally twigged that the reason it gave me a strange icky feeling was because it's really aimed at the liberal elite and isn't for, and doesn't care for, the working class at all

Yes I know it took me a long time to catch on to that but hey ho

Ofcourseshecan · 29/11/2023 14:56

MargaritaThyme · 28/11/2023 22:05

It seems to me that several years ago they made a strategic decision to pivot towards a US audience, and to American racial / identity / culture war politics in particular. Having done that, they then refused to tolerate any dissenting view, for fear of their new target market turning on them and cancelling them. And so they destroyed a once-great newspaper.

I can believe this. The American focus makes sense of otherwise bewildering changes.

The Guardian used to be a great, honest, investigative and campaigning paper. Liberal rather than left-wing, but I could live with that.

In about the 1990s I started noticing a ‘student politics’ flavour, eg making abolition of the monarchy its big Millennium project, instead of any of the massive domestic or international issues that it could have campaigned on.

Since then it’s gone further downhill with luxury politics. I never buy it now and rarely look at it online.

Helpwhichschool · 29/11/2023 14:59

ChocolateCinderToffee · 29/11/2023 11:19

Given the number of Mail readers on this site, you’re bound to be told YANBU.

The Guardian reports stuff that the right wing press does not. It’s invaluable.

Yes indeed. I’m not left wing at all and used to read the Telegraph (mainly for the holiday section). No more. Increasingly written by warmongering paranoid white supremacists. I’ve converted to the Guardian.

Ofcourseshecan · 29/11/2023 15:08

newnamethanks · 29/11/2023 13:51

Somehow I'm not convinced this is a thread of ex Guardian readers. It's all a little intemperate. And, again, WINDRUSH. Thank you Amelia Gentleman and the Guardian, without these Windrush would have remained unnoticed and unvoiced.

As a woman in a male-dominated 1970s world, I often felt the Guardian was my best friend and supporter at work and in politics.

I stayed loyal to it through its decline into identity politics, expensive tastes, lifestyle trivia. But in the past few years it has joined much of the establishment in throwing women under the bus. That was the last straw for this very long-term Guardianista.

newnamethanks · 29/11/2023 15:12

Telegraph is barking these days, the radio is currently drearing on about Ms Markle and skin colour, all our newspapers have been ruined and I'm bloody fed up with all of it. I'm going to listen to some music instead.

justasking111 · 29/11/2023 15:15

Stopped paying the monthly DD to the telegraph due to their bizarre loyalties.

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