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To delete my Guardian account

156 replies

Finlesswonder · 28/11/2023 21:20

I'm fed up with them. They were always pretty heavy handed but now it's like they zap anything that doesn't perfectly tow their "party line". This morning I saw the most banal comment get deleted and I have also been modded for no reason IMO.

To top it all off I'm just so sick of seeing a "colonialism is alive and well: here's why" article literally every week.

AIBU to delete my account on the guardian and move to a new paper? Feels sad, I've been reading the G for 20 years. Where do I go?

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TinySaltLick · 28/11/2023 23:13

keffie12 · 28/11/2023 23:07

Byline Times is a newish paper out. Berm digital up to recently.

It's a new type of newspaper. No oligarchs, no government bungs, no ads.

Just straightforward, honest journalism crowdfunded by the reader.

Digital subscription is £7.99 per month. You can read a certain amount free.

It's the only one I bother with now for serious proper journalism

bylinetimes.com/

Thanks for sharing - enjoying this already. Seen Rusberger is writing for it as well

Trulywonderful · 28/11/2023 23:13

They had a good long build up to it but covid/lockdown really showed how shocking the Guardian really is. They let every conspiracy theorist and wacko scientist voice their opinion like they were leading experts on covid. Talk about trying to threaten the general public. It was a complete disaster on mumsnet every time one of these articles came out. Some of us had to spend hours calming many users back down again. Terrible news outlet that is full of half truths at best a lot of the time

MsRosley · 28/11/2023 23:15

Cel77 · 28/11/2023 22:13

The Guardian is the only paper left with a bit of humanity and decency. But it's up to you!

Not much humanity or decency when they lied repeatedly in support of a convicted sex offender in the WiSpa incident.

MsRosley · 28/11/2023 23:17

I used to subscribe and read it all the time. Then they started with the relentless propaganda. Then I saw them actually lie about something they knew damn well wasn't true.

Eye opening.

MessyClock · 28/11/2023 23:18

How was Hadley freeman hounded out? I used to read her column

MsRosley · 28/11/2023 23:20

I know the world is depressing atm but the Guardian makes it boring and miserable.

The Guardian is so boring and miserable it's enough to make you wish the world would end just to shut them up.

SutWytTi · 28/11/2023 23:30

Circumferences · 28/11/2023 21:23

It's not a "news outlet"- it's propaganda, and of the sort that does not represent the UK or it's people at all.
I can't even click on the Guardian these days even though I intend to vote Labour and have basic left wing principles.

This is a really wacky post. All the news outlets have a slant, barring the BBC. Mail is very biased for example.

As for it 'does not represent the UK' - the population doesn't have one mind, it is made up of many people with a range of views, some of whom agree with the Guardian's editorial position.

Anele22 · 28/11/2023 23:38

Hadley freeman writes some great stuff in the times and they’ve also got Janice turner who’s brilliant

MsRosley · 28/11/2023 23:44

SutWytTi · 28/11/2023 23:30

This is a really wacky post. All the news outlets have a slant, barring the BBC. Mail is very biased for example.

As for it 'does not represent the UK' - the population doesn't have one mind, it is made up of many people with a range of views, some of whom agree with the Guardian's editorial position.

You've missed the point. The Guardian is now effectively controlled by the US money and slants its news for an American audience.

https://nonprofitquarterly.org/guardian-establishes-nonprofit-wing-us/

The Guardian Establishes a Nonprofit Wing in the US - Non Profit News | Nonprofit Quarterly

Britain’s Guardian newspaper establishes a nonprofit affiliate in the U.S. to supplement its income.

https://nonprofitquarterly.org/guardian-establishes-nonprofit-wing-us

pancakerobot · 28/11/2023 23:44

The Guardian desperately, desperately needs a paywall. It used to be a great paper, and it could become one again, but it's degenerated into clickbait.

newnamethanks · 28/11/2023 23:45

It's like a student mag, however, everything else is worse. Least offensive are Independent and FT.

Trouves · 28/11/2023 23:48

SharonEllis · 28/11/2023 23:11

Yes, and book reviews too. He's also very active on Bluesky if you're a fan!

Thank you!

bombastix · 29/11/2023 00:01

Xiaoxiong · 28/11/2023 22:10

I started feeling like this around the time of the Brexit vote - having been a very loyal daily Guardian reader, I now read the FT, the Times, BBC news (which all have excellent climate change coverage), Private Eye, and the New Statesman. I feel like that gives me a wide range of views without resorting to the daily Mail or the guardian who both make me feel emotionally manipulated.

Me too. I read the Guardian from about 8! It is now really stupid. I mean all the "here's a lovely thing for ££££" was always true about it but it's so dumb. The quality of the writing is really poor. You can't even enjoy the writing!

Jewelspun · 29/11/2023 00:08

The Guardian is a looney Lefty rag.

SingleMum11 · 29/11/2023 00:15

YANBU but I’d say the same about the BBC news. The standard of journalism has become propaganda first, serious journalism second.

I agree with @Whydowomendothistothemselves some of their articles actually make me angry now. Which really puts me off.

And I consider myself someone who cares about social justice, inequality, unfairness. The guardian was also supposed to, but only if it’s ‘their’ side. Shocking really.

madamovaries · 29/11/2023 00:32

Come join us Times readers …

DdraigGoch · 29/11/2023 00:35

TinySaltLick · 28/11/2023 23:05

It's the only mainstream publication which provides a vaguely honest appraisal of the world. The quality of the journalism and level of humility is sky high compared to its peers - as a pp claimed comparing to the daily mail is beyond preposterous

It can't get everything right but it at least accepts that and often shows multiple sides to the story

I'm obviously a subscriber and think it has improved since viner took charge

The FT however is also excellent

"Vaguely honest" is an extremely generous way of putting it.

It certainly doesn't show multiple sides either, haven't you seen how many columnists have been bullied out for not conforming to groupthink?

Minion21 · 29/11/2023 02:22

I could not agreee more, OP. A couple of months ago, at the time of the Women are Women speech, I left a comment that simply said that Sunak was the only politician that had the guts to say the obvious out loud. Comment deleted. I promised myself never to read the Guardian again. Not an informative newspaper, just Woke propaganda.

EasternStandard · 29/11/2023 06:50

Trulywonderful · 28/11/2023 23:13

They had a good long build up to it but covid/lockdown really showed how shocking the Guardian really is. They let every conspiracy theorist and wacko scientist voice their opinion like they were leading experts on covid. Talk about trying to threaten the general public. It was a complete disaster on mumsnet every time one of these articles came out. Some of us had to spend hours calming many users back down again. Terrible news outlet that is full of half truths at best a lot of the time

The Covid era was a joke

It was linked a lot on here, still is on some threads

SharonEllis · 29/11/2023 06:58

Stick with the Guardian then. Your loss!

lkwhjis · 29/11/2023 07:08

You are wrong OP. It’s not a newspaper. Like PP said, it’s just a propaganda outlet. The comment section is hilarious with the same die hard frothing at the mouth lefties who still think they are in sixth form in the 1970s.

Every article is hysterically shrieking that world is on fire, or that 99.9% of people in the world are modern slaves. And it funny when they put up those begging banners asking for donations because they let you read it for free. You wonder if people actually pay for this drivel. Most don’t even read it for free.

newnamethanks · 29/11/2023 07:11

BUT ITS GOT JAY RAYNER. Who is worth paying for. And John Crace. So its worth subscription.

TheValueOfEverything · 29/11/2023 07:42

In defence, the Guardian does do some of the best investigative reporting - look at the Duchy Estate one - and climate and environmental coverage which should be the top, pinned, topic for every outlet.

I recently ended a 20 year paid subscription though in protest over the Roisin Murphy review. It felt like the final straw. They did pay attention when I did this and wrote a letter in defence.

I still occasionally read it on the free app and hope they’ll listen to their readers. I guess I do care about the Guardian in a way I don’t one jot about other media orgs, and wish it would do better to live up to its two hundred years of journalistic history. Disappointing.

Yours, Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells 😉

Couldyounot · 29/11/2023 07:55

A lot of the features are the most frantic bollocks, yes. "How I rediscovered my inner child through coprophagia and voyeurism" or "We forged a deeper sexual connection through swimming in slurry" and stuff like that. Plus people getting enormously cross about niche topics that scarcely anyone understands. I mainly read it for Marina Hyde and Jay Rayner tbh