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To delete my Guardian account

156 replies

Finlesswonder · 28/11/2023 21:20

I'm fed up with them. They were always pretty heavy handed but now it's like they zap anything that doesn't perfectly tow their "party line". This morning I saw the most banal comment get deleted and I have also been modded for no reason IMO.

To top it all off I'm just so sick of seeing a "colonialism is alive and well: here's why" article literally every week.

AIBU to delete my account on the guardian and move to a new paper? Feels sad, I've been reading the G for 20 years. Where do I go?

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Farmageddon · 28/11/2023 22:32

It's gone down the shitter OP, which is sad because I used to be an avid reader.
The Cologne attacks which they refused to report on correctly, and gender ideology nonsense being pushed heavily turned me off completely.

Owen Jones makes my skin crawl, and they pushed out decent female writers who weren't allowed to report properly on women's rights (for fear of upsetting a very special group).

Meanwhile Kath Viner seems happy to give keep her husband on as a tedious columnist in which he talks about things like parkings spaces and coat hangers, for which I'm sure he's paid handsomely.

Coyoacan · 28/11/2023 22:32

Howlongdoesittaketoheal · 28/11/2023 21:26

I read it and other news sources and it’s the only news source that still seems to dig deep and do proper investigative journalism.

I know it’s left leaning but comparing to BBC, DM, I, it’s so much more in-depth. And seems to be the only news source reporting honestly on climate change.

It's not honest and not left-wing

MargaritaThyme · 28/11/2023 22:35

Denial of mass rapes in Cologne.

Yes, that as a tipping point for me, too. Deliberately disregarding large-scale attacks on European women by migrant men because it undermined their multicultural agenda was unforgivable.

And I agree that Sonia Sodha is now the only person worth reading in the whole paper.

Trouves · 28/11/2023 22:38

ilovetomatoes · 28/11/2023 21:37

Try the FT, factual quality reporting

I was thinking of subscribing to the FT. I like Stephen Bush and I know he’s the associate editor. Apart from the morning politics briefing email, does he contribute many articles to the paper?

ManAboutTown · 28/11/2023 22:38

It is a real echo chamber now - maybe 15 years ago there was a much wider range of views in the comments section. i got permanently banned for suggesting the SWP was a left wing version of the BNP

ichundich · 28/11/2023 22:42

YANBU. I gave up on the G a couple of years ago because it was constant doom and gloom plus the gender nonsense. Second other people's suggestion of reading the FT instead.

Finlesswonder · 28/11/2023 22:42

@ManAboutTown
I got modded in an article about feminism for saying "it's a shame the guardian lost some great feminist journalists like Suzanne Moore and Hadley freeman".
W...T...F!

I think I'll go to the FT. These decades spent reading the G and feeling angry have actually made me feel prepared to pay for somewhere that actually respects its readership

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ManateeFair · 28/11/2023 22:46

I have also been modded for no reason

No reason, eh? Right.

Anyway. Of course you can delete your Guardian account. Why would you need to ask if that was unreasonable?!

starfro · 28/11/2023 22:48

It's as bad as the Daily Mail, just from the other side of the spectrum.

ManAboutTown · 28/11/2023 22:49

@Finlesswonder - not sure what the comments section of the FT is like but if you're not a fan of the EU for example probably not the paper for you. It's business reporting is usually good.

To be honest I think the quality of all the major papers has deteriorated in the last 15 years or so

Yekaterinap · 28/11/2023 22:52

I love seeing the lefties eating themselves up and coming out of their own arse😂They love the next new thing until they don't like it anymore because it's affecting them.

jeaux90 · 28/11/2023 22:55

Totally agree OP the hounding out of Suzanne Moore and Hadley Freeman, their utterly disgraceful coverage of anything to do with women's rights. I was done a couple of years back.

NC098765 · 28/11/2023 22:57

I used to be a loyal reader. Now as another poster says, it's joy-sucking. On the off chance I do decide to give it a read, I always come away feeling awful about the UK, the world and everything in between. Not because of the actual news (I don't feel this way about other news outlets - apart from The Metro with their misery p0rn), but because of their constantly depressing opinion pieces presented as fact. And their infuriatingly formulaic headlines. Basically: "Think everything is shit? Here's why it's even worse than you thought"

friendlyflicka · 28/11/2023 22:59

The Guardian doesn't seem to have much content. If you skip through climate change and other miserable events all showcased together then there are some blind date items and consumer advice, some reviews that don't interest me and then I have come to the end. I like John Crace and that is it.

I know the world is depressing atm but the Guardian makes it boring and miserable.

Also read The Times and that is full of provocative confessions of privileged women with no space for comments and insider views of what convoluted rubbish the Tory party are arguing about this week and who still loves Boris Johnson.

I might try the FT.

TragicMuse · 28/11/2023 23:02

I deleted the app a few months ago and feel so much better.

YANBU

EasternStandard · 28/11/2023 23:03

Yanbu for reasons put by pp

A shame, many years ago it was a go to on a Saturday, print version

Not anymore, just doom and dross really

TinySaltLick · 28/11/2023 23:05

It's the only mainstream publication which provides a vaguely honest appraisal of the world. The quality of the journalism and level of humility is sky high compared to its peers - as a pp claimed comparing to the daily mail is beyond preposterous

It can't get everything right but it at least accepts that and often shows multiple sides to the story

I'm obviously a subscriber and think it has improved since viner took charge

The FT however is also excellent

JustMaggie · 28/11/2023 23:06

I've moved to the FT too. I find them a lot more factual and less emotional.

keffie12 · 28/11/2023 23:07

Byline Times is a newish paper out. Berm digital up to recently.

It's a new type of newspaper. No oligarchs, no government bungs, no ads.

Just straightforward, honest journalism crowdfunded by the reader.

Digital subscription is £7.99 per month. You can read a certain amount free.

It's the only one I bother with now for serious proper journalism

bylinetimes.com/

SharonEllis · 28/11/2023 23:08

I'm a lefty, was a Guardian reader for over 30 years. Cancelled my subscription over antisemitism. Stopped buying altogether when they lost Suzanne Moore & Hadley Freeman. Awful paper - such a shame. I have a subscription to the Times & Economist & buy the weekend FT & often buy the New Statesman.

SharonEllis · 28/11/2023 23:08

Oh and I buy the Observer.

Switcher · 28/11/2023 23:09

I gave up on it years ago. Come to the FT!

SharonEllis · 28/11/2023 23:11

Trouves · 28/11/2023 22:38

I was thinking of subscribing to the FT. I like Stephen Bush and I know he’s the associate editor. Apart from the morning politics briefing email, does he contribute many articles to the paper?

Yes, and book reviews too. He's also very active on Bluesky if you're a fan!

Switcher · 28/11/2023 23:11

ManAboutTown · 28/11/2023 22:49

@Finlesswonder - not sure what the comments section of the FT is like but if you're not a fan of the EU for example probably not the paper for you. It's business reporting is usually good.

To be honest I think the quality of all the major papers has deteriorated in the last 15 years or so

It's a balance of pro and anti Brexit in the BTL. Little bit tedious so I don't read the comments much but the articles are mostly good.

BIossomtoes · 28/11/2023 23:12

I only read Andrew Rawnsley and Marina Hyde’s columns now. When it started commissioning Norman Baker to write anti monarchist tripe it lost me.