Too wonder why people shop on temu Shein etc

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When we know how bad the environment is how much plastic and stuff ends up in land fill how poor the workers conditions are why are we supporting them. I see so many people doing big hauls of stuff. I know it’s cheap and maybe it’s all people can afford by you buy cheap you buy twice.

I think you need to re read my message. I quite clearly never implied you live in China but you said 'not to move to this part of the world' which is very vague and I asked where it is that this part of the world you refer to is.

Also I really can't comment on your dinner set but you clearly like it so again good for you on your 'lovely' dinner set. I don't really get why you are focusing on it but ok. 🙃

Yes, because new Temu baby clothes are so much safer all round than second hand clothes.
God, wake up people.

Marketplace is absolutely fill of full or siper cheap baby clothes. If someone is going to go out and buy shein clothes, why would it matter if the second hand ones aren't "good brands"?
Straight in a boil wash and there's no issue with cleanliness either. If it's free and is smokey, just pass it on again or throw it away.

It's the same stuff you're buying from Amazon and clothes shops the world over so YABU.

They really aren't. The charity shops near me are shit for clothes, I can never find anything. And not everyone has charity shops nearby.

As much as I agree about the environmental aspect, I'm not pig ignorant so I understand that not everybody has bags of cash available to spend so price is the main driver of probably most purchases by most people.

Are you really that stupid that you don't see that people buy what they can afford?

Because it’s cheap and it’s fun as they keep giving you discounts. I’ll care about the environment when China does, what I order makes perhaps a 0.000000001% difference if that so logically I’m not going to lose at sleep over it. If it is really dangerous and harming people then the government could make it illegal like they did with those nitrous things???

Shein is a game changer for people putting on reviews and pictures of themselves wearing it.

Like properly sized women, not size 6 models.

What's the acceptable clothing size for women to be now?

There is really no getting through to you is there. Yes, everyone bought from shops, there was no other option, but a lot of people didn't buy very much at all because they couldn't afford to - why can you not grasp that? Should people with no money only ever buy the absolute necessities of life, while those with money buy luxuries? Is that the sort of world you aspire to?

There really are a lot of people on MN who live in their own little bubble and cannot imagine how life is for those not so fortunate. Apparenty if you aren't reasonably well off you just have to put up with it and never have anything nice or fun in your life.

I find it more disturbing than people shopping on Temu/Shein to be honest.

Hysterical you're all naming temu primark etc but retailers like Hobbs buy in from China..that £189 cost you think is great quality...made in China..google it. Albeit better quality still made there and marked up here.

I was in the Isle of Harris this summer and was desperate to buy some Harris Tweed to sew some curtains with. £40 per metre, is it worth it..hand made on Harris..beautiful but I would need 4 metres..or I could go to John Lewis and buy non Harris tweed (from China) ready made for £90..reality is we need to buy British and prices will eventually come down if we do but we need a shock like "China is infiltrating everything you do". Have to say am complete hypocrite as I buy moulds for hobbies of temu..never used SHEIN but like the designs.

..but am going to make a more consistent effort to consider what I'm buying.

That argument doesn't really fly when there's already an abundance of cheap (supermarket/poundland/primark etc) and landfills overflowing with second hand. "People with no money" don't need this seasons polyester dress or fucking plastic toothpaste squeezers as was on the first page. In fact, to some "people with money" might have nicer things because they save up and invest, or buy used rather than waste it on disposable tat for the dopamine hit.

You are the one who keeps banging on about my dinner set. It is from a UK company btw - however now made in China, which is the point I was trying to get across. You might believe that Made in England is the best - but how much is actually still made there?

You also said "I have no intention of moving from the UK to China". Which is why I stated I don't live there.

Am I aware of the ethical issues? Yes. But I shop on SHEIN because I don’t trust the places I would shop from elsewhere to be more ethical, they all use sweatshops etc. I do a lot of my clothes shopping in thrift stores but as a plus size woman SHEIN has clothes that fit me well and last brilliantly. Some of my favourite clothing is from them - and the stitching is strong and fabric higher quality than in stores like torrid I would usually go to. t isn’t throw away clothing if you shop carefully and read reviews on each item, plus people share their weight ands height info and reap photos so I have a far better idea what I am getting than with other online retailers.

I do boycot some things. Chick fil a, hobby lobby, nestle although I probably miss some of the smaller subsidiary products as they own so much. But I don’t see why my carbon footprint of purchases matters much in the grand scheme of things where the top 1% has a bigger carbon footprint that the bottom 60% altogether.

The thing I don't understand about stolen designs and fakes with the clothes - I don't see clothes that look like the nice pretty stuff my daughter likes from Shein in physical shops. If it's stolen designs from "designer names" then I wouldn't be able to afford to buy it. Most of the clothes in the regular high street retailers (M+S, Primark, H+M, the supermarkets etc) is just mostly bland dull clothes. Why aren't they selling the pretty stuff? Why aren't they collaborating with these designers to make affordable versions of their clothes to be sold in actual shops that exist on the UK high street?
If they want to stop fakes and copies then they need to make their products affordable and available.

It isn't all stolen from major fashion houses. A lot of it is stolen from small businesses and sole traders. Shein is now such a behemoth that it can pump out stolen rip offs much, much faster than the original business can make them, and of course it's only going to charge a fraction of the price. And it's doing this constantly, so it's covering every style and taste you can think of.

"Affordable", well, when you operate completely unethically, nobody can compete with you on price. Consumers need to prioritise something other than cheapness. Ethical companies simply can't undercut Shein because it costs money to source responsibly, pay workers and create quality.

I posted a link upthread. Take a look, it's informative.

Personally I shop for a number of reasons. COL is one. Many of the things I get on temu are things I would have previously bought elsewhere so it's got nothing to do with buying excess plastic. I do buy some toys but again they are things I'd buy my son regardless but on temu it's cheaper. They are good enough quality and I've not thrown a toy away in year. If something breaks we usually find a use for it somewhere else. Like toy cars he has now grown out of I've attached to a desk lamp and shelf edge and sprayed them. He's into cars still just not toys so they are Greta for his room. Clothing wise as a family of people on the autistic spectrum we find t very hard to find clothes that any of us find comfortable that are cost effective. Temu is all of that. Their clothes are stretchy, comfy and good sizes and hard wearing. I've just ordered him a coat that is waxy on outside, waterproof and warm but it's comfy and stretchy enough not to feel to stiff for him and he loves it. I would never stop ordering from temu. Because why should we if people have issues with all the plastic rubbish address that as a family. I always reuse the plastic packaging when I sell items on vinted, or eBay and I use the zip lock bags for storage too. I do t find it.unsafe for the environment at all. Order what you need and dispose of them reasonably. You can still use places like temu without damaging the environment.

I hear you @Needmorelego Shein etc feature a lot of styles of dresses and tops I like that I just can't find in the UK stores.

I have a few bits from Hobbs, Reiss and White Company that haven't lasted anywhere near as much as the stuff I bought off Shien

Designers don't owe you affordable fashion. If you're buying it just because it's pretty, you don't need it at any price. It's really that simple.

Because I can't afford £200 for a nice ethically sourced jumper.......

Pop down to oxfam and get one for £2 then.

It's a very irritating fact that Shein often does "last" basically because it's plastic and wouldn't break down if you buried it for 500 years. But that doesn't mean it's good quality.

@Oliotya I am not saying "designers" owe me anything but obviously every item of clothing sold is designed by somebody. The bland M+S stuff doesn't just appear by magic.
So why aren't the struggling UK retailers using the talent that clearly exists? Get these independent designers working for them - use their talent.
@SurprisedWithAHorse it's definitely not on when a small business designer (or even the big name ones) has their designs stolen. That's wrong and shouldn't happen.
But the UK retailers aren't helping themselves by only selling dull bland clothes - people are naturally going to start looking elsewhere for nice clothes and are unlikely to know if a design is stolen or not.