Too wonder why people shop on temu Shein etc

[HappySunday1]

When we know how bad the environment is how much plastic and stuff ends up in land fill how poor the workers conditions are why are we supporting them. I see so many people doing big hauls of stuff. I know it’s cheap and maybe it’s all people can afford by you buy cheap you buy twice.

I think keeping your body warm warm and covered is a most basic need, but that’s just me

This is a mumsnet fallacy: you can only question a person's environmental credentials if every single life choice you have made is carbon negative. It's lazy bullshit in my opinion and she doesn't have to be an offgrid vegan to question why people buy unnecessary tat from known polluters that are appalling for the climate

Agree with this.

I also would like to know if there's prizes because I predicted this would be the direction of travel on page 1!

Don't shop on temu. there is actually reports that the website uses your data and can hack into your bank account at moment.
I don't shop from shein bohoo pretty little things etc either. every company is bad however shein is the worse. also look up the recent BBC documentary on boohoo and their practices. delivery's about to arrive and they demanding a 10 per cent cut on the invoices before they even pay them product that has been produced and paid for all ready and staff to be paid for and bohoo demanding a reduction in price. a shocking practice.
people have lost the idea of what products actually cost. consumerism has put pressure on retailers to drove their prices down. so you get clothes now made of poor materials (polyester etc) and made in different factories all the time instead of one factory supplying all clothes hence you get the mis mash of sizing. there is nothing wrong with products made in China. some China factotories are the best in thr world and also have a clear supply chain and all information produced when asked (unlike shein). websites shouldn't offer discounts all the time discounts should be twice a year like was before summer and January sales.
You also don't actually really need so much clothes marketing plays a part in the constant emailing advertising and influences to get you to buy
also see boohoo how wrong they are to offer a love island winner 500k to do a lone of clothing but refuse to pay their vendors 20k what they are owed
I was on e of those shoppers who wardrobe was bulging and bought new every time and donated bags upon bags to over flowing charity shops. covid made me take a good hard look at. it's taken me over 2 years but I have reduced my wardrobe by 70 per cent. I changed who I follow on insta. one tells you to add up each month how much you have spent on clothes (it was an eye-opener) if yoi can afford to spend that amount every month then that is yoir budget for one thing and one thing only each month. If you can't afford it reduce it. you identify what you need and that's what you buy every month. if yoi don't need anything then don't buy but you save that money.
another is Andrea chong who goes to shops of all budgets and examines the clothes of how they are made etc. an eye opener.
I now only buy when need buy second hand when possible and always examine the material and how its made. have a black tie awards even next week and I am actually renting my dress. something will do more often now for occasions

another is Andrea chong who goes to shops of all budgets and examines the clothes of how they are made etc. an eye opener.
If she's the person I'm thinking of she did an eye opening reel, possibly about Zara, and how fabric quality and finishing differs on different colourways of the same item. Both versions have the same name and cost the same but one is cotton and the other is a synthetic one with awful finishing.

If anyone is truly without clothing, ordering from China is hardly the most efficient option. People might want new fashionable stuff, but that's not a need.

I hate how much money Temu has to spend on ads, I try and Google for a product and 90% of the sponsored/shopping suggestions are bloody temu, I don't want to shop at Temu! Show me results from the UK, ideally small UK businesses, but the little guys (like me, I run a small business) just can't compete because they've got so much money to throw at ads

Im pretty poor, but I won't support them, and I'm always amazed when I get links to Temu sent to me from people who I know via ethical clothing/toy/cloth nappy groups - I can't wrap my head around being so into sustainable, ethical products and 6 months later showing off a tonne of absolute rubbish off Temu.

Shein I can kind of understand, people require clothing, I personally use vinted and I only buy to replace worn things, not because I just fancy a new pair of jeans, so only spending a few £ at a time, I couldn't afford to do a big shein shop even at their prices!

This reminds me of the poster who created a thread outraged at the dangers of children eating Dairy Leas

I wouldn’t touch either Temu or Shein with the proverbial bargepole - environmental ethics (plastic tat and air miles); humanitarian reasons (forced labour); product safety and quality, including banned goods; copyright concerns (knock-off goods take money from people that had the original idea or design) and data privacy concerns (data breaches, malware planting, data harvesting, targeting of a younger and more naïve market).

Eyebrows are being raised worldwide by both authorities and the press, who continue to question Temu’s practices, tactics and ethics. Some examples:

https://amp.theguardian.com/money/2023/nov/17/weapons-banned-in-uk-apparently-found-on-shopping-app-temu-which

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/06/05/temu-shopping-app-scam-china-spyware/

https://madame.lefigaro.fr/style/news/qu-est-ce-que-temu-l-inquietante-application-shopping-la-plus-telechargee-en-france-20231024

Lots of the shein stuff is on Amazon and Temu but more expensive

Agree it's all fast fashion and keeping up with the latest trends for image or social media. Many people have become quality-blind and so think they are getting great deals rather than tack.

Number 3 is so so important. We can't complain about our economy and how shit it is and then spend all our money with Chinese companies instead of supporting British ones. It doesn't make any sense

I'm also own a small business, I can't compete with Temu on either price or marketing spend, I'm having to push the fact that my products are made in the UK and are high quality to try and attract the type of consumers who will choose my shop over Temu. 5 years ago we were able to support our family reasonably comfortably, now we rely on UC to survive.

I want to try Google ads but is there any point? Temu have so much ad space I don't think I'd get a look in!

Chicken absolutely agree that for many people there isn't the luxury of choice. Get that 100%.

I think however if you do have choices then we all have a responsibility to do as well by others/the planet as we can. I think all the little things can help. Buying endless amounts cheap crap that's ultimately destined for landfill is slowly killing is all.

Good grief

That's lovely

Can you tell Me how they look when they arrive plz as I was thinking of getting one of these
TIA

Are you doing everything environmentally correct, then? This is how people get put off the idea they think they have to be perfect rather than doing what they can.
I can't afford a holiday, but I can afford to buy a cheap hobby related item from Temu every so often to still bring me some joy. Or since I'm poor, should I just shut up and have nothing?

@BloodandGlitter

So it's not a choice then?

My original post said Shein buyers are not skipping steak and flights to offset their footprint- you're not making a choice to not go on holiday.

Ok then.

You don't have to do everything right, no. You can in fact buy from Shein and use things for ages and repair them. So... over got the wrong end of the stick with me.

I take issue with people like pp who don't give a budgie about anyone or anything else, and gloat about using these places. Someone buying a shein dress as a little morale boost once in a while, but who recognises their impact - fair enough.

Quality isn't always reflected on price. I've had some nice-quality items from Shein. I also have a pair of trainers that retail at £600+ that have started falling apart after about twenty wears.

No. That is where you are wrong. They are not entitled to it. Absolutely No one is entitled to useless plastic crap make by a child slave.
Good lord. Is this what we’ve come to? The sheer entitlement of people in developed countries makes me despair (and I count myself in that but opinions like those in this quoted post are on another level) 😞

And yes, it absolutely should be policed. Something should be done.
Guess what- 2023 is not the first year where people have been poor and we managed well enough without tons of cheap plastic crap shipped directly from the wretched hand of a poor child slave.

So I am assuming that you are whiter than the driven snow in your purchasing habits, and research every detail to see where your purchases are made and who are making them? If so I applaud you, but you must have more time on your hands than the average person.

I do hope you don't have, or plan to purchase, an electric car.

None of us are "entitled" to probably most of our purchases, but I still defend the right of people to spend their money how, and where, they wish without being judged by those who perceive themselves to hold the moral high ground.

Enjoy your despairing - it really isn't going to make one iota of difference!

Do you seriously think that everything we purchased prior to recent years was made by a well paid adult, whose employers cared for their welfare and made sure their working conditions were top notch?

Oh, to be so naive.

Charity shops have loads of children's/baby clothes.

Yes this.

I bought some stuff from Shein a few years ago as my teenage daughter wanted some stuff. The stuff we bought was fine. I then read about the Uyghurs in China. I don’t know if it is true or not, but I didn’t want to take the risk, so I deleted the app. Would not try Temu now either.

I’m sure I buy stuff from other companies that exploit people too. However, this one felt that it could well be true so no more shein for me. I don’t live on a strict budget though which helps.

I say it possibly is. it's been a real eye opener for me and have also bought her book. I like the fact she does lower end brands plus higher end. she recently did sienna's range with marks and it wasn't good. when you see what she says clothes are nkt good. ialways check labels etc now when buying. there is a blogger here in Ireland who has just launched a clothing range mix of dresses and cardigans. they look fab and are bright colours however when u read the description its all polyester and she selling them for around 200e. so disappointed

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