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Restaurant maître d' talking about us to other customers

234 replies

heynow1111 · 13/11/2023 11:19

Went out for a meal with husband to a nice restaurant and booking was 1.5 hours. I am a slow eater and we were having a lovely time chatting so I wasn't clock watching.

In retrospect Maître d'/head waiter was hovering when I was close to finishing and I should have perhaps read this as they were rushing us to finish but I was so enjoying the meal and company I didn't register at the time.

Finished meal and Maître d'/head waiter said (in other words can't remember exactly) "sorry I've been waiting for you to finish, I didn't know what to do". I know they said sorry but you know when from someone's tone they are NOT sorry and what they said was more to point out you had annoyed them? At the time I felt really awkward and embarrassed like I should have been tracking the time or something? So I apologised.

After this had happened husband said that PRIOR to this, he had seen Maître d' talking behind their hand whilst looking at us and saying sorry. So talking about us whilst we were at that point totally unaware we had gone over time.

I think this could have been better managed by when we were coming close to end of our booking, saying excuse me, just to let you know you are coming to the end of your booking as we have another table at X time? I would have thought oh sh** and rushed up!

I completely get it must be annoying when customers go over on bookings and it must be complex coordinating everything but i thought it was handled unprofessionally. Just tell us you need the table now/soon rather than talking about us behind our backs to other customers and then informing us after the fact that we had 'held up' a booking? AIBU?

OP posts:
Gwenhwyfar · 13/11/2023 13:17

"Jesus christ 1.5 hours in a restuarant? "

Really? I don't bother eating out unless I know we'll be there for at least 2 hours.
It's only happened to me once that I was rushed out and I would never go there again.

Just seen that this was an actual booking for 1.5 hours. I wouldn't accept that as I want to relax and drink wine etc.

greenhydrangea · 13/11/2023 13:18

Pilloh · 13/11/2023 13:14

She made a mistake. No point crucifying OP over it. You live and you learn.

Nobody is crucifying anybody. She made a mistake but seems to think the maitre d' made a bigger mistake, and is not in any case owning her mistake.

The other party waiting for their table (which would have needed to be cleared and reset, once OP finally got around to finishing eating, and then paid the bill) are of no significance, apparently.

InTheRainOnATrain · 13/11/2023 13:19

I’ve never been to a restaurant that only gives you 90 minutes but 2 hours is very common and its the restaurant’s responsibility to manage that which means they have to run everything on time to ensure they can stick to it, including allowing for diners who might eat a bit slower than average. I’ve been to a couple of places where they’ve taken forever to take your order, too long to get the food and then tell you can’t have desert unless it’s perched awkwardly around a too small high top table in the bar- didn’t go back to any of them.

Gwenhwyfar · 13/11/2023 13:19

Pelegrinfalcon · 13/11/2023 12:49

I don't have the luxury to eat out esp in nice places but how does one spend 90 mins on eating a restaurant dinner. I have no idea if you are unreasonable or not, OP but couldn't get over the fact that you couldn't finish your food in 1.5h.

2 to 3 hours is pretty normal. I usually have two courses. Some people have 3. There is waiting in between and wine, tea, coffee, brandy afterwards.

90 minutes is not enough unless it's lunchtime!

blackoverbillsmothers · 13/11/2023 13:20

AgentProvocateur

1.5 hours for dinner at a nice restaurant is unreasonable. Aperitifs, starters, mains, bottle of wine, coffee…

Absolutely. It’s supposed to be a nice dining experience not a race.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 13/11/2023 13:20

Mammillaria · 13/11/2023 11:25

There are a myriad of polite ways waiters use to let people know their table will be needed soon. Hovering and whispering behind their back are not two of them.

The waiter should have handled it better.

I agree. If the restaurant wanted the table back, I would expect them to come over and remind me that it was only a 90 minute booking and they had another party waiting.

VenusFlyTraps · 13/11/2023 13:20

You must have been there for ages for them to start talking about you. Personally, I think YABU. Other people have come for a good night too and it’s not fair for you to hog the table. 90 mins is more than enough time.

Pilloh · 13/11/2023 13:21

@greenhydrangea Define crucifying I guess. There are plenty of posters being unnecessarily demeaning to OP. And seemingly getting a kick out of it.

greenhydrangea · 13/11/2023 13:22

Doteycat · 13/11/2023 13:10

The fact that the sector has been hit hard is irrelevant. I wouldn't accept a time limit and therefore would not give them my business in the first place. I give it to places that don't. And as a result I go to them more often. So they benefit from that.
I don't owe them my business.

Well, that's good to know. Don't go there then. Nobody is suggesting you owe anyone your business. But if your do go to a restaurant with booked time slots, just as with parking spots, you really are expected to honour the time. HTH.

Doteycat · 13/11/2023 13:23

Eh which is why I said that if I did I would.
HTH.

BethDuttonsTwin · 13/11/2023 13:24

I was irritated just reading that so goodness how the maitre’d felt!

greenhydrangea · 13/11/2023 13:25

BethDuttonsTwin · 13/11/2023 13:24

I was irritated just reading that so goodness how the maitre’d felt!

Precisely.

DysmalRadius · 13/11/2023 13:25

greenhydrangea · 13/11/2023 13:18

Nobody is crucifying anybody. She made a mistake but seems to think the maitre d' made a bigger mistake, and is not in any case owning her mistake.

The other party waiting for their table (which would have needed to be cleared and reset, once OP finally got around to finishing eating, and then paid the bill) are of no significance, apparently.

Edited

That's not at all what happened - the OP has acknowledged that she should have kept track of time better and has been pretty gracious about accepting some fairly robust (and some completely unnecessary IMO) criticism.

sherloc · 13/11/2023 13:26

Gordon Ramsay often comes across a grumpy, but his people were lovely for five hours!

GCAcademic · 13/11/2023 13:28

BethDuttonsTwin · 13/11/2023 13:24

I was irritated just reading that so goodness how the maitre’d felt!

Being able to handle situations like that is part of his job. If he's irritated rather than being able to deal with it professionally, that means he's pretty crap at his job.

greenhydrangea · 13/11/2023 13:29

DysmalRadius · 13/11/2023 13:25

That's not at all what happened - the OP has acknowledged that she should have kept track of time better and has been pretty gracious about accepting some fairly robust (and some completely unnecessary IMO) criticism.

She has banged on repeatedly about the maitre d' being "rude" and "passive aggressive" - which to my mind does not gel with owning it.

christmascrackle · 13/11/2023 13:30

Jesus do we now have to eat inside a 'booking time' as well as freaking paying an arm and a leg for eating??? Who in the heck is ever going to go out? Is this a new thing?

christmascrackle · 13/11/2023 13:31

why the heck is everyone giving the OP a hard time about this? what on earth is going on. You can stay as long as you like surely once you've shelled out??

ManchesterLu · 13/11/2023 13:32

I don't actually think 1.5hrs is THAT long. By the time you've ordered drinks, ordered and received each course, a lot of time could go by, particularly if they're making food from fresh rather than just microwaving like Wetherspoons etc (nothing against them, I go there all the time!)

Tawlk · 13/11/2023 13:32

KatBurglar · 13/11/2023 12:39

All those posters saying they wouldn't accept a time limit...

You do know thw sector has been hit very hard and is struggling to keep afloat, don't you? They state when you make a reservation that the table is available for a set period in order to make bookings as efficient as possible.

My experience since the pandemic is that roughly half of restaurants I frequent have a time slot. It's usually 2h, in more casual places 90m. There's often also a deposit to protect against no-shows, which I find perfectly understandable.

If we value the restaurant industry, accepting such small measure that help keep them viable seems perfectly reasonable.

also I think how much you’re spending needs to come into consideration, if it’s a really nice restaurant and spending €200+ on a meal out with my OH I’m not going to be very happy with a 1.5hr slot, 1.5hrs is completely unreasonable in any decent restaurant. 2+ hrs at a minimum would be acceptable. Although any nice restaurant I’ve been to in the last few years hasn’t had a time limit!

YoKookoY · 13/11/2023 13:35

AgentProvocateur · 13/11/2023 11:32

1.5 hours for dinner at a nice restaurant is unreasonable. Aperitifs, starters, mains, bottle of wine, coffee…

I refuse to go to places where they give you a time limit.

I agree that 1 and 1/2 hours is too short. 2 hours is ok though. I don't think the waiter saying sorry to the other customer counts as talking about you though. He was just saying sorry that the table wasn't ready surely??

MarmitePizza · 13/11/2023 13:35

SisterMichaelsHabit · 13/11/2023 11:28

Jesus christ 1.5 hours in a restuarant? Didn't you have a watch or a clock on your phone or any sense of time that it was taking a lot longer to eat than usual? How on earth do you manage with lunch breaks at work? During Covid they gave people 45 min slots. That's an entire booking for the table they've lost!

And no it's not the restaurant staff's job to tell you to leave. In fact they are explicitly not supposed to do this as it is construed as rude.

He was probably apologising to the people who booked a table and couldn't have it for 30-45 minutes because you were sitting there, and instead of feeling bad you're wondering if you should choose to be offended about this?

Have you ever been to a proper restaurant? 1.5 hours is nothing!!

Greatbigfluffytrousers · 13/11/2023 13:42

I feel a bit sorry for the maitre d’ if he doesn’t know what to do when a table is over running, it’s a pretty standard part of the job. It sounds like he didn’t know what to do because he realised he should have been on it enough to realise when the next booking was and that you should have been reminded of this before it was too late (I assume they did make it clear when you were seated). Probably realised he might get bollocked for not managing the flow of customers properly.

Gwenhwyfar · 13/11/2023 13:44

"How on earth do you manage with lunch breaks at work?"

Going to a restaurant is nothing like eating your salad or sandwich in your lunch break FFS.

Gwenhwyfar · 13/11/2023 13:45

"any decent restaurant. 2+ hrs at a minimum would be acceptable. Although any nice restaurant I’ve been to in the last few years hasn’t had a time limit!"

Exactly. What kind of places are these? Even with pub meals you don't get rushed out.

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