Air bnb owner ott or do we deserve to be chucked out?

[Pilloh]

We were forced out of our house due to a water leak in the house. The insurance company said we had to move out due to the severity of the work.

A bit of a nightmare for us as we have a large dog. He’s been called a wonderfully mannered dog by a qualified behaviourist outside the house who really doesn’t care about people/other dogs. But he is a breed used for guarding and therefore very barky at home (we have a command that gets him to be quiet but it doesn’t stop the impulse to bark initially). Not to make excuses, we were working on this with the behaviourist pre-pandemic but our progress stalled so we just manage the situation. Ie we have gates all around our house/garden, don’t allow strangers and the dog to meet inside the house (he’s totally fine with people when they are not on “his” property). Our house is basically Fort Knox and only DH and I are here so it’s all pretty easy to manage.

We told the air bnb owner that please tell the cleaner not to enter house or garden without telling us as dog will run up and bark at strangers. He agreed. We explained the situation and he said he understood.

Yesterday pm, cleaner comes into the garden when I was playing footy - she was fetching something from shed. Dog ran towards her and barked. I gave the recall command which worked initially but then my dog ran back to cleaner and barked. It’s no doubt intimidating. After 20 ish secs dog was in the house and I apologised. Recall is not full proof hence why we never rely on it. We would never have found an Airbnb where we were not assured we would be informed of any person entering the property.

Owner has messaged now saying the cleaner won’t return whilst we are here and that means we have to leave as the owner is not ok with the house not being maintenanced.

Cleaner has visited 4 times without incident as the right procedures were followed.

Who is being unreasonable?

It's not a wolf, it's a dog. It's not a pack, it's a family with humans in that the dog isn't in competition with for food or mating purposes.

Unless you're a dog & maybe this applies to you?

@DragonFly98

the dog doesn't need to be PTS FFS.

its fine outside of its own territory, they'll soon be back home after this flooding drama, where it's set up for their dog.

you don't kill an animal because of a temporary issue which would be easily solved by the Air BnB using a brain cell.

I have 3 large dogs. They bark at everyone who comes to the door. I think most dogs do?
A dog that was silent when a stranger was at the door ( or in the garden!) would be very unusual indeed. Once the door is opened they can see through the screen door and either carrying on barking in excitement at seeing someone they recognise or get a bit defensive if they don't know the person. A soft growl, slight hackles. I then say "thanks " to the postie or whoever who walks away. If it is a new person that I have invited over , they stop barking the minute they cross the threshold into our house. They then expect pats and general loving😁 I thought that was pretty standard. Total amount of barking is about 3 minutes.
I don;t consider them reactive at all. All good when out and about, cafes, walks etc. We have had 100 people at a party and the dogs just wandered around saying hello.
When they bark they are just protecting their home and their family. It's what dogs do.

Ridiculous. Dog barked at a stranger coming unannounced on to the property when they shouldn't of been, as I imagine many dogs would. OP literally said on the thread dog has never bitten anyone. PTS - what a stupid thing to say.

No, none of mine do this.

Have you left yet?
Not sure why you are even posting....
Situation quite clear.
Good cleaners hard to get.
Troublesome guests 10 a penny.
It's game over but ask for refund of unused time.

Oh forgot. OP you YANBU as the cleaner shoudn''t have let themselves into the garden without letting you know , dog or no dog. That's just plain rude. I doubt they would like it if you let yourself into their backyard.

I have a dog phobia and usually find myself on the ‘anti-dog’ side of arguments.

That said, I don’t think the OP is being unreasonable.

They we’re upfront about their dog’s barking issue at the time of booking, and explained that they’d need a small amount of advance notice when the cleaner attended. The owner accepted this and took the OP’s money on that clear understanding.

When advance notice of the cleaner’s attendance has been given, there has been no issue. Giving some degree of notice is not much of a hardship.

If the OP was staying somewhere rent-free then it would be more arguable but money was accepted on the basis of a small accommodation being made for the dog, it’s unreasonable for the owner to do a 180 in the circumstances.

Sounds horrible and scary. Glad I'm not your postie.

The whole alpha-dominance method of dog training has fallen entirely out of favour, the rationale behind it having been largely debunked.

The idea of an alpha wolf is, in itself, a myth:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-alpha-wolf-idea-a-myth/?amp=true

Just because dogs live in homes doesn't make them people. They are pack animals and they will adopt a hierarchy whether you think so or not. Wolves and dogs are both Canidae.

A bit like Brexit isn't it or voting in Tories the majority of you were right back then.

You’re not being unreasonable. Both the owner (who agreed& understood) and the cleaner know the routine & requirement & have not followed it. You’d have been out had they done it correctly.

Are you living in an air b&b I’m confused with some posts you’ve done on here.

Wait, what? Dogs aren't people? When did that happen? Was there a press release? Peer reviewed papers proving dogs aren't people?

Honestly my mind is blown. Dogs aren't people. Wow.

Great. So people should train dogs the new ways then and use the latest acceptable terminology. Makes no odds to me, the result is the same; dog doesn't display undesirable aggressive behaviour towards humans. Problem solved! And have a dog that you can actually handle/manage that doesn't pose a deadly threat to people. Or, even better, just don't have a large predator as a pet.

I don't think YABU. You checked with the owner before booking and they agreed that it would be no issue. You clearly explained why - ie you are attempting to ensure that anyone coming to the property is not scared by your dog - and it's odd if the owner now say you have to leave because what you said would happen, if you didn't know in advance that someone was coming, happened.

I wonder if they've now decided that they don't think they can always notify you in advance or that it's too much hassle. In which case it would better/more upfront (imo) to admit that rather than implying this is your fault. But some people don't seem to be able to even slightly admit fault (even when it's understandable) and prefer instead to blame others. Perhaps that's what's going on here?

You were training pre pandemic and then...what? You've given up?

Pandemic has been over for a long time, sort your dog out.

I haven’t been well post pandemic.

If I didn’t have dh and dog I wouldn’t be here

Oh so NOW I have to get rid of my lion! Yeesh

Put your dog in kennels and charge it to your insurance.

Glad I could help clear that up. You said I was a dog so I was just pointing out that I am human and not a dog. Dogs aren't your family, they are dogs. I know this is a really hard concept for dog worshippers to grasp so I'm glad to have helped.

So I now get that dogs aren't people but surely lions are still people 🤔

As you've stopped replying I take it you have finally grasped your misunderstanding and will take your apology as implied